Question how-can-i-find-out-the-health-level-of-the-hardware-components-of-a-prebuilt-pc?

[elreydelaswas1]

Please answer that

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Does a non OEM PC is a prebuilt PC?

 

[Lutfij]

You mean PC's that aren't made/built/sold by HP, Dell, Acer and Asus...? If the system is made beforehand with parts chosen by them off a shelf and sold to you, then yes it is in essence, a pre-built PC.

 

[elreydelaswas1]

Please answer that

 

[USAFRet]

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What warranty is provided?

You can also get the serial number of each part, and check the warranty status at the manufacturer.


Where are you buying this theoretical 'prebuilt PC'?

 

[elreydelaswas1]

You mean PC's that aren't made/built/sold by HP, Dell, Acer and Asus...? If the system is made beforehand with parts chosen by them off a shelf and sold to you, then yes it is in essence, a pre-built PC.

i mean no-OEM PC

 

[USAFRet]

i mean no-OEM PC

Did YOU select and buy all the parts, and then assemble it?

If not, you can mostly consider it a 'prebuilt'.

 

[elreydelaswas1]

What warranty is provided?

You can also get the serial number of each part, and check the warranty status at the manufacturer.


Where are you buying this theoretical 'prebuilt PC'?

Every hardware component of my pc has an expired warranty and it is a no-OEM PC bought in a computer store

 

[elreydelaswas1]

Did YOU select and buy all the parts, and then assemble it?

If not, you can mostly consider it a 'prebuilt'.

yes i did it, so it is not a prebuilt PC?

 

[USAFRet]

Every hardware component of my pc has an expired warranty and it is a no-OEM PC bought in a computer store

Why did you buy a PC with all used parts, out of warranty?

What difference does OEM or non-OEM make?

 

[USAFRet]

yes i did it, so it is not a prebuilt PC?

That does not jibe with this statement from you:
"Every hardware component of my pc has an expired warranty and it is a no-OEM PC bought in a computer store"

https://forums.tomshardware.com/thr...nents-of-a-prebuilt-pc.3880611/#post-23491980

 

[Lutfij]

Please to stick one thread, OP, unless you want spaghetti brains.

 

[elreydelaswas1]

Sorry, I misunderstood you. What I meant was that I bought the computer ready to use from someone other than a company that manufactures computers or computer hardware components. All warranties on the hardware components of my computer expired several years after I bought them. When I bought my PC, all of its hardware components were new. My PC was sold in a store that sells ready-to-use PCs with new hardware components from different manufacturers.

 

[USAFRet]

Sorry, I misunderstood you. What I meant was that I bought the computer ready to use from someone other than a company that manufactures computers or computer hardware components. All warranties on the hardware components of my computer expired several years after I bought them. When I bought my PC, all of its hardware components were new. My PC was sold in a store that sells ready-to-use PCs with new hardware components from different manufacturers.

And again, I 'm asking...

What difference does prebuilt, OEM, non-OEM make?

 

[elreydelaswas1]

And again, I 'm asking...

What difference does prebuilt, OEM, non-OEM make?

I don't mean to be rude, but since what I need most at the moment is to save time, I'll answer you this way: If you see no difference between pre-built, OEM and non-OEM, for me it would also be the same. is it the same or is it different for you?

 

[USAFRet]

I don't mean to be rude, but since what I need most at the moment is to save time, I'll answer you this way: If you see no difference between pre-built, OEM and non-OEM, for me it would also be the same. is it the same or is it different for you?

OEM/prebuilt systems, such as from CyberPowerPC often have a 1 year warranty.
No matter what the individual parts may have had....1 year on the whole box.

Also, they often make it difficult to choose parts that are actually good.
They'd list a "850W PSU", but not tell you what it is.
Or "RGB Liquid cooling!", not saying that is is a cheesy 120mm thing.


Building it yourself means you get 100% choice on what pars are included, and you get a much deeper understanding of how it all goes together and works.

 

[Misgar]

When I bought my PC, all of its hardware components were new. My PC was sold in a store that sells ready-to-use PCs with new hardware components from different manufacturers.

International OEM manufacturers like Dell, HP, Lenovo do not make all the parts in their PCs. The motherboard, case and PSU might be unique to Dell, etc., but the RAM, CPU and SSD will be "from different manufacturers", e.g. Intel, AMD, Kingston, Crucial, Samsung, WD. Most OEM manufacturers do not make every single component inside their PCs (perhaps Apple is an exception?).

Smaller companies build their own custom design systems from various parts and I'd probably describe them as OEM or "boutique" builders. There are also individuals who will build you a PC to your exact specifications and save you the hassle of building it yourself. An individual who builds PCs for clients is not much different from a boutique builder. They'll probably install an OEM version of Windows (not Retail) if they intend to sell on the PC. Does that make them OEM too?

how-can-i-find-out-the-health-level-of-the-hardware-components-of-a-prebuilt-pc?​

In answer to your original question, it's exceedingly difficult to determine the "health level" of most components, apart from hard disks and SSDs which include S.M.A.R.T. which you can interrogate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Monitoring,_Analysis_and_Reporting_Technology

I can't think of anything built into commercial CPUs, RAM, GPUs, etc., that will tell you how much longer that component has to live, before failing.

Each component will have an expected life, with the likelihood of failure described on a bathtub curve. A motherboard contains thousands of components, so there will be hundreds of different bath tub curves to consider. They won't all be the same.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathtub_curve

Then there's MTTF, MTBF and MTTR to consider. You're probably most interested in Mean Time To Failure, but it's very difficult to predict which component will die first. It's a lottery.
https://www.emaint.com/mtbf-mttf-mttr-maintenance-kpis/

One guide I use for computers is the PSU warranty.

If a $20 ATX PSU comes with a 1 year warranty, it could well be the first unit to die, but whether or not it's an electrolytic capacitor, a diode, resistor, MOSFET, relay or MOV that fails inside, is difficult to predict.

If a $200 ATX PSU comes with a 10 year warranty, then it's possible the PSU might outlast some other component, e.g. a spinning hard disk.

Hard disks come with warranties, e.g. 2 years, 3 years, 5 years, but I've got some hard disks that are still working fine after 10 years and a others after 20 years. I expect hard disks to die at any time.

Semiconductors (CPUs, RAM, GPUs) are subject to ageing processes and electromigration, but can still work after 40 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromigration

Personally, I think you're on a non-starter asking about the "health level" of hardware components in a pre-built PC (or any PC for that matter). It doesn't matter a jot if the PC is pre-built or not. The component doesn't know if Dell built the PC, or Joe Bloggs in his basement. Provided brute force and ignorance wasn't used during assembly and standard ESD precautions were observed, there shouldn't be much difference.

With a good long PSU warranty, I'd say hard the disk might die first (after 3 to 4 years), then the AIO pump (at 5 years). Next might be the SSD, especially a cheap 2.5in SATA without DRAM cache. After that, your guess is as good as mine. I'm assuming you're not overclocking the heck out of your CPU and RAM. If your CPU is pinned at 250W most of the time and your RAM at 7600MT/s, you can expect electromigration effects to occur earlier.

Just stick your finger in the air and make a wild guess as to when your PC will stop working. You could be right. You could even sell tickets.

 

[Zerk2012]

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Does a non OEM PC is a prebuilt PC?

Really not much you can check.
You can check the drives health, usually the manufacturer has program.
You can run memtest on the memory.

The rest all you can do is stress test, OCCT will let you stress test the CPU, video card, and power supply.

 

[Grobe]

Buy an expensive microscope and manually go through every single solder point. Those are often very hard or straight out impossible to spot with the naked eye.

Over time, after numerous of repeated temperature cycles - small cracks and fractures on PCB tracks WILL occur from time to time, and thus far I don't know a single software that have the will power to detect this kind of faults.

 

[Misgar]

Buy an expensive microscope

Something like this ESD binocular workstation microscope perhaps?

I wonder how NASA calculate the life expectancy of satellites heading out to Neptune and beyond. Some missions last decades. I know they have rendundacy, but still .....

I think support for the New Horizons mission launched in 2015 is about to be cancelled.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploration_of_Pluto

 

[Grobe]

I wonder how NASA calculate the life expectancy of satellites heading out to Neptune and beyond. Some missions last decades. I know they have rendundacy, but still .....

By keeping the temperature steady. Interstellar radiation and small fragments are probably much more hazardous to the delicate electronic in such missions.