How can i get the most out of what i have?

[Guest]

Hello community

I have a gigabyte gtx 970 g1 gaming
Xfx pro series xxx 850w
All pheriperials (mouse monitor speakers keyboard)
and 1000$ 300 000huf + like 200$ for a cpu cooler 60 000huf


I cant do rebates but i will have no shipping cost
I prefer this site: http://www.arukereso.hu
I have only used amd in my whole life so im unfamiliar with any intel
but i know that skylake is terribly overpriced now


I will buy the parts in september 10-14
The computer wills be used mostly for gaming + nvidia gamestream gaming (so streaming games for my nvidia shield tablet)

Parts to upgrade cpu mobo ram (i prefer ddr4 ram asus or msi mobo and i will NEVER buy asrock again) also case and hdd (some ssd but only if it can fit in the budget)
I will oc but its not likely that i will go sli but i would like to have the opportunity if i do
Im not buying windows nor any software from this money
My monitor resolution is 1440x900
Im upgrading because of motherboard bluescreens freezing and not turning on (im not reusing anything from that computer) the xfx and the 970 i bought recently bcs i got a good deal on them


Thank you for your help

 

[Suxces]

ah it's you again remember me?

If i were you i would buy a 1231v3, a H97 board (no OC, but you don't need that), 16 or 8GB of DDR3 RAM, 250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD (or the PRO if you want the best incl. 5 years of warranty, better performance and quality), 2-3TB HDD

= under 700€

and you can use the rest to make party, buy a hooker, make a small vacation or buy a 2nd monitor

and you have a system that plays everything on max and will be last you a long time.


I wouldn't go for DDR4, for the price it's not worth it and DDR3 is fast enough for everything you need.

 

[Guest]

Suxces hello of course i remember

With the ram i was planning to start with 8gb but leave enough money (and memory slot) to upgrade to 16gb if want
Well im only 15 so my parents wont allow anything you wrote except the second monitor xD
If i dont need oc than its ok if i cant

But my dilemmas are:
I was told that the i7 5820k is better to stream games to the shield
The lga 1150 platform has just been changed is it still ok to just buy one now?
The games are not benefiting from ddr4 but that might change later and ddr4 is not overpriced mostly here where i live but i7 6700k is
Do you know a case that can fit a noctua nh d15?

 

[Suxces]

Nanoxia Deep Silence 3 is a good and valuable case which fits it. Most cases tell you the max. height of coolers that fit in.

The 1231v3 is still faster than a non-OC 5820k per core while costing half and you will get fulll HD stream with minimum 30fps. A 5820k is only better in performance in streaming, because more cores. For games and everything else 4 cores are easily enough, most games only use 1-2cores thats why you want a strong core, not many weaker cores.

In my opinion, if you are not a professional streamer, you simply dont need it and should use your money for something else.

Get a 6core if you want the higher performance in streaming (but lower/same core performance/lower/same performance in gaming) AND spend ALL your money OR get a xeon/4th gen i7 system which costs half of a 5th gen system for almost the same performance, if you want a good gaming system which can stream full HD.

 

[Guest]

I really dont understand that streaming is better with 6 cores thing
I am using an a10-6800k now (using actually 2 cores 4 threads) and im still limited by my internet speed not my cpu xD
So i dont understand the streaming performace difference between 1231v3 using 8 therads 4 cores and 5820k using 12 threads 6 cores going for 6 cores seems a bit strange as i have been fine with 2 much weaker cores

 

[Suxces]

Well, then you are limited to your internet speed anyways...

You have better streaming performance, because streaming uses all cores. Wihch would mean you stream with 1231v3 @ 50fps and the same game you would stream with a 5820K @ 60fps.

One is how fast your PC is able to record and decode the video and the other one is your internet upload speed that uploads the video (streams it).

But you don't have enough internet bandwith so all of it doesn't matter anyways.

 

[Guest]

Lol ok thx ( im fine streaming 720p)

 

[Suxces]

Let me know how you decided and how much you have spent.

 

[Guest]

I will spend in september 10-14 and it will highly depend on what can i sell from my previous build
If i cant sell my ddr3 ram than i will reuse in a 1150 build but if i will have full 1250$ and the prices of skylake go down a bit i will buy this build :
xfx pro edition 850w
msi Z170A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM EDITION
i7 6700k
gigabyte gtx 970 g1 gaming (sli is an option but this is plenty for 720p 30fps gaming (on the go with the shield tablet not my monitor resoution but i almost only game this way))
samsung 850 pro ssd 256gb
western digital 1 tb (that is plenty of space for me)
noctua nh d15
gskill ripjaws 16gb ddr4 ram

 

[Suxces]

That's a great build and also good if you wanna upgrade the system later.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOh19-No2Nw look at the benchmarks of at the end/middle of the video.

 

[Guest]

:O ivy bridge is almost as good as skylake?
Than the point of that video is that i could just keep my a10-6800k and use that next to my gtx 970 since its as good as ivy bridge?

 

[Guest]

Thank you btw i would have overspent xD

 

[Suxces]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sx1kLGVAF0

OC your 6700k to 4,4GHz

 

[Guest]

Hmm???
6800k??

 

[Suxces]

If you OC your 6700k to 4,4GHz you will have a lot of performance gains is what i am saying. Have you seen the video? You have between 10-30 more FPS, than a 4790 @ 4,4 or a 5930k @ 4,4GHZ - which is pretty fucking nice.

So if your CPU lacks performance in a couple of years, OC it and it will last you another couple years.


I mean the imaginary 6700k of your Z170 future system Watch the 2nd video and framerate comparison...

 

[Guest]

How about i just oc my a10-6800k and its fine?

 

[Suxces]

Well, i thought you want a new PC?

Sure you can OC it, but it's still not even half as fast as a 4790k

 

[Guest]

I can only get my new pc after 10th of september :/

 

[Guest]

Lol you changed to a new picture!?