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You can't.
You can trade them with other met civ's.
For money or luxeries.
"Persifor" <persifor@pyramid.com> wrote in message
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> Tech advances??
You can't.
You can trade them with other met civ's.
For money or luxeries.
"Persifor" <persifor@pyramid.com> wrote in message
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> Tech advances??
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Mark Rosenkrantz <contact@rosenkrantz.nl> wrote:
> You can't.
> You can trade them with other met civ's.
> For money or luxeries.
>
> "Persifor" <persifor@pyramid.com> wrote in message
> news:1gohmh5.hevzpubaonN%persifor@pyramid.com...
> > Tech advances??
Thank you
Mark Rosenkrantz <contact@rosenkrantz.nl> wrote:
> You can't.
> You can trade them with other met civ's.
> For money or luxeries.
>
> "Persifor" <persifor@pyramid.com> wrote in message
> news:1gohmh5.hevzpubaonN%persifor@pyramid.com...
> > Tech advances??
Thank you
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There's also other items the AI will take as payment for a tech or two:
Contacts!
World Maps with large ammounts of land not already on that AIs version
of the map.
Sometimes the AI wants you to join in on a war they are in so badly
they'll give you a tech in exchange.
Other techs
Note that if you are currently running a deficit, the AI will never
accept a GPT deal from you. If it's your term you need to fool the AI
by lowering your science slider bar, contacting the AI, making the
trade, and then raising it back to where you want it.
There's also other items the AI will take as payment for a tech or two:
Contacts!
World Maps with large ammounts of land not already on that AIs version
of the map.
Sometimes the AI wants you to join in on a war they are in so badly
they'll give you a tech in exchange.
Other techs
Note that if you are currently running a deficit, the AI will never
accept a GPT deal from you. If it's your term you need to fool the AI
by lowering your science slider bar, contacting the AI, making the
trade, and then raising it back to where you want it.
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On 9 Dec 2004 13:10:02 -0800 joncnunn@yahoo.com wrote in message
<1102626602.618196.185120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>...
> Note that if you are currently running a deficit, the AI will never
> accept a GPT deal from you. If it's your term you need to fool the AI
> by lowering your science slider bar, contacting the AI, making the
> trade, and then raising it back to where you want it.
Although it will accept a GPT deal from you greater than your current net
income. It only values it at your net income, so that, for example, if your
net income is 10/turn, and you offer 15/turn, then this would be valued by
the civ as though you offered 10. So your slider trick can work (i.e.
increase the perceived value of your offer) even if you're not running a
deficit).
In extreme cases, I have reallocated my City's population so as to maximise
trade, negotiated the deal, then returned the population to normal
production, all within the same turn. One must be careful though, that you
don't run the risk of bankruptcy - Your payments are guaranteed to be such
that your treasury will be exhausted in under 20 turns (or you wouldn't have
had to resort to such manipulation). Therefore, you either know that other
payments are due to terminate within that period, or must have a credible
plan for growing yourself out of trouble.
--
Daran
The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words;
on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them
unconscious and riffle their pockets for new vocabulary. -- James D. Nicoll
On 9 Dec 2004 13:10:02 -0800 joncnunn@yahoo.com wrote in message
<1102626602.618196.185120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>...
> Note that if you are currently running a deficit, the AI will never
> accept a GPT deal from you. If it's your term you need to fool the AI
> by lowering your science slider bar, contacting the AI, making the
> trade, and then raising it back to where you want it.
Although it will accept a GPT deal from you greater than your current net
income. It only values it at your net income, so that, for example, if your
net income is 10/turn, and you offer 15/turn, then this would be valued by
the civ as though you offered 10. So your slider trick can work (i.e.
increase the perceived value of your offer) even if you're not running a
deficit).
In extreme cases, I have reallocated my City's population so as to maximise
trade, negotiated the deal, then returned the population to normal
production, all within the same turn. One must be careful though, that you
don't run the risk of bankruptcy - Your payments are guaranteed to be such
that your treasury will be exhausted in under 20 turns (or you wouldn't have
had to resort to such manipulation). Therefore, you either know that other
payments are due to terminate within that period, or must have a credible
plan for growing yourself out of trouble.
--
Daran
The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words;
on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them
unconscious and riffle their pockets for new vocabulary. -- James D. Nicoll
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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:36:01 +0000, Daran <daranSPAMg@lineone.net>
wrote:
>On 9 Dec 2004 13:10:02 -0800 joncnunn@yahoo.com wrote in message
><1102626602.618196.185120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>...
>
>> Note that if you are currently running a deficit, the AI will never
>> accept a GPT deal from you. If it's your term you need to fool the AI
>> by lowering your science slider bar, contacting the AI, making the
>> trade, and then raising it back to where you want it.
>
>Although it will accept a GPT deal from you greater than your current net
>income. It only values it at your net income, so that, for example, if your
>net income is 10/turn, and you offer 15/turn, then this would be valued by
>the civ as though you offered 10. So your slider trick can work (i.e.
>increase the perceived value of your offer) even if you're not running a
>deficit).
That isn't at all true. The AI knows you can't pay up and will be
insulted by the offer. Watch your advisor next time. If the deal is
bad he might say something like "I doubt they will accept that offer".
Then when you increase it to run a deficit he will say "they will
NEVER accept the offer". That means the AI knows you are trying to
screw them.
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:36:01 +0000, Daran <daranSPAMg@lineone.net>
wrote:
>On 9 Dec 2004 13:10:02 -0800 joncnunn@yahoo.com wrote in message
><1102626602.618196.185120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>...
>
>> Note that if you are currently running a deficit, the AI will never
>> accept a GPT deal from you. If it's your term you need to fool the AI
>> by lowering your science slider bar, contacting the AI, making the
>> trade, and then raising it back to where you want it.
>
>Although it will accept a GPT deal from you greater than your current net
>income. It only values it at your net income, so that, for example, if your
>net income is 10/turn, and you offer 15/turn, then this would be valued by
>the civ as though you offered 10. So your slider trick can work (i.e.
>increase the perceived value of your offer) even if you're not running a
>deficit).
That isn't at all true. The AI knows you can't pay up and will be
insulted by the offer. Watch your advisor next time. If the deal is
bad he might say something like "I doubt they will accept that offer".
Then when you increase it to run a deficit he will say "they will
NEVER accept the offer". That means the AI knows you are trying to
screw them.
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On 9 Dec 2004 13:10:02 -0800, joncnunn@yahoo.com wrote:
>Sometimes the AI wants you to join in on a war they are in so badly
>they'll give you a tech in exchange.
Have you ever had that happen? I am always disappointed that the AI
expects me to give them something for an alliance yet they never offer
me anything. I had given up trying since I figured they never offer
anything of value for an alliance.
On 9 Dec 2004 13:10:02 -0800, joncnunn@yahoo.com wrote:
>Sometimes the AI wants you to join in on a war they are in so badly
>they'll give you a tech in exchange.
Have you ever had that happen? I am always disappointed that the AI
expects me to give them something for an alliance yet they never offer
me anything. I had given up trying since I figured they never offer
anything of value for an alliance.
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Yes, in the ancient epic era, I've been invited to join in a war for a
tech.
Also, it's common for me to get around 200 gold to join a war.
And in Rise Of Rome, the Celts will willing to cede Meralisis in
exchange for the privilege of joining the war against the Carths.
P12 wrote:
> On 9 Dec 2004 13:10:02 -0800, joncnunn@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Sometimes the AI wants you to join in on a war they are in so badly
> >they'll give you a tech in exchange.
>
> Have you ever had that happen? I am always disappointed that the AI
> expects me to give them something for an alliance yet they never
offer
> me anything. I had given up trying since I figured they never offer
> anything of value for an alliance.
Yes, in the ancient epic era, I've been invited to join in a war for a
tech.
Also, it's common for me to get around 200 gold to join a war.
And in Rise Of Rome, the Celts will willing to cede Meralisis in
exchange for the privilege of joining the war against the Carths.
P12 wrote:
> On 9 Dec 2004 13:10:02 -0800, joncnunn@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >Sometimes the AI wants you to join in on a war they are in so badly
> >they'll give you a tech in exchange.
>
> Have you ever had that happen? I am always disappointed that the AI
> expects me to give them something for an alliance yet they never
offer
> me anything. I had given up trying since I figured they never offer
> anything of value for an alliance.
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In article <giiqr0hfmilvkhffjeu7m6jvnqd0u57ia3@4ax.com>, P12 <nowhere@all.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:36:01 +0000, Daran <daranSPAMg@lineone.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On 9 Dec 2004 13:10:02 -0800 joncnunn@yahoo.com wrote in message
>><1102626602.618196.185120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>...
>>
>>> Note that if you are currently running a deficit, the AI will never
>>> accept a GPT deal from you. If it's your term you need to fool the AI
>>> by lowering your science slider bar, contacting the AI, making the
>>> trade, and then raising it back to where you want it.
>>
>>Although it will accept a GPT deal from you greater than your current net
>>income. It only values it at your net income, so that, for example, if your
>>net income is 10/turn, and you offer 15/turn, then this would be valued by
>>the civ as though you offered 10. So your slider trick can work (i.e.
>>increase the perceived value of your offer) even if you're not running a
>>deficit).
>
>That isn't at all true. The AI knows you can't pay up and will be
>insulted by the offer. Watch your advisor next time. If the deal is
>bad he might say something like "I doubt they will accept that offer".
>Then when you increase it to run a deficit he will say "they will
>NEVER accept the offer". That means the AI knows you are trying to
>screw them.
Go to the F1 Domestic Advisor screen first and dial your Luxury and Science
sliders down to zero. Then offer the gold per turn deal. After the AI
accepts you can go back to the F1 screen and readjust the sliders and run a
deficit.
Mike G
>
In article <giiqr0hfmilvkhffjeu7m6jvnqd0u57ia3@4ax.com>, P12 <nowhere@all.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:36:01 +0000, Daran <daranSPAMg@lineone.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On 9 Dec 2004 13:10:02 -0800 joncnunn@yahoo.com wrote in message
>><1102626602.618196.185120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>...
>>
>>> Note that if you are currently running a deficit, the AI will never
>>> accept a GPT deal from you. If it's your term you need to fool the AI
>>> by lowering your science slider bar, contacting the AI, making the
>>> trade, and then raising it back to where you want it.
>>
>>Although it will accept a GPT deal from you greater than your current net
>>income. It only values it at your net income, so that, for example, if your
>>net income is 10/turn, and you offer 15/turn, then this would be valued by
>>the civ as though you offered 10. So your slider trick can work (i.e.
>>increase the perceived value of your offer) even if you're not running a
>>deficit).
>
>That isn't at all true. The AI knows you can't pay up and will be
>insulted by the offer. Watch your advisor next time. If the deal is
>bad he might say something like "I doubt they will accept that offer".
>Then when you increase it to run a deficit he will say "they will
>NEVER accept the offer". That means the AI knows you are trying to
>screw them.
Go to the F1 Domestic Advisor screen first and dial your Luxury and Science
sliders down to zero. Then offer the gold per turn deal. After the AI
accepts you can go back to the F1 screen and readjust the sliders and run a
deficit.
Mike G
>
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