How do I include a Baneblade in my IG ???

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Anyone know the points and slots taken up ???
 
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In article <9Wy1e.13643$4%3.3749@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Snarfgargle
the 43rd The Condottiere, snargargle@thepalace.com Varfed out the
following in Timo speak...
> Anyone know the points and slots taken up ???

Any of the super heavys can be taken as a seperate 'force organization
chart' - you can literally take from 1 to 3 super heavy vehicles per
force org chart and they form their own 'army'. If I'm recalling the
core 40K rules correctly, this means under normal circumstances you can
use a 2nd force org chart in games larger than 2000 points. So
reasonably you could field one or more of them as a seperate force in
games larger than 2000 points, or if it's more of a 'friendly' game -
then you could probably field one or more *as* your primary force. That
being said, you're seriously going to want some close in anti-assault /
counter charge support to cut down on tooled up characters getting in
close with a force weapon or power fist and immobilizing or otherwise
getting lucky and taking out your super-heavy. In fact - if you do an
advanced google groups search on the guy quoted in my sig file below -
you'll find a battle report where he talks about taking out a Baneblade
with a tooled up 3rd Ed chaplain.

Hope that helps,

Myrmidon


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Always has the newest army and plays each of them in the same way...
Badly!

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Or...

http://www.sheppard.demon.co.uk/rgmw_faq/rgmw_faq.htm
 
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Snarfgargle the 43rd The Condottiere wrote:
> Anyone know the points and slots taken up ???

Baneblades (and other Super-heavies) have their own rules.

1-3 superheavies is an entire FOC of its own, so you need to be playing
at game of at least 2 FOCs on each side.

In addition, you need to have fulfilled your minimum obligations in the
1st FOC (1 HQ & 2 Troops).

Points can be whatever you agree upon, but will typically be 2000+ total.

But the main point is that normal rules do not allow them for an option
in a standard FOC. This is intentional. But it would not be
unbalancing if a Superheavy took 3 Heavy and 1-3 Elite slots in a
standard FOC.


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The sad thing with Super Heavies is that when you finally have a
detachment of three similar ones, nobody wants to play with you. My
Baneblades have never seen combat together.

Also, while Super Heavies can be vulnerable if your opponent gets really
lucky, remember to read the rules very carefully. I once made an Eldar
Avatar fall back because he failed to destroy my Baneblade. You should
have seen the guy whine! "But, He's the Eldar God of WAR!?!?"

"All Hail President Kang!"
 
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Tiger40000 wrote:
> The sad thing with Super Heavies is that when you finally have a
> detachment of three similar ones, nobody wants to play with you. My
> Baneblades have never seen combat together.

Who are you, and what have you done with Robert Williams?!?

IMO, you just need to play a bigger game, say 5000 pts per side with 3
FOCs of 1500-2000 pts each.

> Also, while Super Heavies can be vulnerable if your opponent gets
> really lucky, remember to read the rules very carefully.

Indeed...

> I once made an Eldar Avatar fall back because he failed to
> destroy my Baneblade. You should have seen the
> guy whine! "But, He's the Eldar God of WAR!?!?"

It's not like he didn't have a leg to stand on. The IA rules for
Super-Heavies say *nothing* about forcing back Fearless models, whereas
the Eldar Avatar says it is immune to auto-fall weapons...


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So 1-3 baneblades use an entire 17 slot organisation chart thingy ????
 
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"Snarfgargle the 43rd The Condottiere" <snargargle@thepalace.com> wrote in
message news:lMO1e.15201$XH5.7929@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> So 1-3 baneblades use an entire 17 slot organisation chart thingy ????

Yep. You just forget the 17 slots, it's just 1-3 take up a detachment. This,
and the rules for each super heavy, is all covered in the FW Imperial Armour
Volume 1 book (don't get Imperial Armour 1, it needs to be the hardback book
for the current rules), but it's damned expensive.

I've got the Armorcast Baneblade/Shadowsword, I'm going to build a chassis
to carry the spare hull and so be able to field them both at the same time
(already got a cheap 1/35 scale M48A3 Patton tank kit that has the ugliest
turret I've ever seen but the tracks are just the right size, so I'm happy
to butcher it). Then I just have to find an opponent willing to let me take
them - would certainly bulk out my Armoured Company.

http://tinyurl.com/5s598 :)

Dan
 
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It also helps if you've seen IG in Epic scale. The 1-3 Baneblades are
so massive they form their own company and are assigned as needed.
 
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"Chris Valera" <grimdarkness@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It also helps if you've seen IG in Epic scale. The 1-3 Baneblades are
> so massive they form their own company and are assigned as needed.

I've still got some of my epic stuff, 3 Shadowswords looks impressive too :)

Dan