Umm, I think that they are not very good...check out Coolsquirtle's thread on the same topic...right now its just a few spots below this one...
Oh, and check out the buyer's guide that is at the top of the list...it is one of the "Brands to Avoid"
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by spitoon on 10/30/03 00:06 AM.</EM></FONT></P>