How good of a Gaming Build can I build with a Budget of 1000-1200euro?

lunarfreakz

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Dear Tom's Hardware Community,

My budget for my gaming pc has unfortunately lowered from 1500euro to around 1200 (preferably near the 1000euro budget) and I was wondering how good of a build would it be possible to create with this kind of money? I want to game every day for at least an hour (obviously not every day in the year but like 2/3 of the year I would be gaming on it), I would like to be able to get highest settings (or near highest) and have NO LAG at all (if possible with the budget). The build that I would have wanted to build with my budget of 1500euro was this one:

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/G4YTnH
created by: @logainofhades
on my other thread

However I need to lower my budget and was hoping you, the community, could possibly help me out to make builds that are perfect for the conditions I mentioned above whilst staying in the budget of 1000-1200euro (+/- 50euro, or less than 1000 is obviously even more perfect).

Thank you!!! Any answer, solution or build is VERY appreciated!

Update:
- AMD Builds are welcome but I am not familiar with them so maybe some helpful articles about them comparing them to Intel would be great!
- If any specs on how good the build would be for gaming (like what settings would I be able to play most games, etc) could be mentioned under your build, would also be great!
- Minimum specs:
1. No lower than core i5-8400 (or whatever is equivalent to that in AMD)
2. Minimum GTX 1070 (GPU)
3. SSD and HDD (as I heard this was ideal for gaming pcs)
- Also if you could possibly send some links to youtube videos that will help me build my pc whether it is AMD or Intel! This would be a huge help!

Update!
So I ended up getting the cheapest website and got the total price of 1,289.13euro for my build! (Yes it is out of my budget but I can make it work)

- CPU (275euro)
https://www.ti-84shop.nl/intel-core-i7-8700-boxed.html?source=googlebase&gclid=CjwKCAjw_tTXBRBsEiwArqXyMrARyQlOKOI0AuUvQEAinsUPAgZsmrsnQ4qiA7fINnVQo_vcRiu7YBoCGvYQAvD_BwE

- Motherboard (62.99euro)
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07BKK9LHR/?tag=pcp05-21

- Memory RAM (151euro)
https://www.megekko.nl/product/0/927017/Crucial-DDR4-Ballistix-Sport-LT-2x8GB-2400-CL16?r=googleshopping&gclid=CjwKCAjw_tTXBRBsEiwArqXyMk-ARagUwXwR2_VA8xcOgg1h4ZctHQ06ph4Uw53RDIQWhROP3mabdhoC26QQAvD_BwE

- SSD Storage (59.90euro)
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01F9G43WU/?tag=pcp05-21

- HDD Storage (44.40euro)
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0088PUEPK/?tag=pcp05-21

- GPU Videocard (555euro)
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01NCVICRY/?tag=pcp05-21

- Case (60.85euro)
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B009GXZ8MM/?tag=pcp05-21

- Power Supply PSU (79.99euro)
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B073H33X7R/?tag=pcp05-21

These are the components: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/G7rmr6

However, of course, if anyone has any better alternatives, that could possibly even be cheaper, I would gladly like to know about it!

 
Solution
Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€279.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H310M S2H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€62.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€146.58 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€44.39 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Mini Video Card (€560.00 @ Mindfactory)
Case:...
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor (€167.59 @ Alza)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€37.05 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370 AORUS Gaming 3 (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€135.92 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€68.89 @ Alternate)
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card (€309.14 @ Alza)
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P300 Tempered Glass ATX Mid Tower Case (€59.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€65.75 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €996.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-11 09:20 CEST+0200

logains builds are always awesome

this still can max out easily 1060p and play good on 2k
 

zoltan.boese

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Here is a guide with both ryzen and intel variants. https://pcmasterracebuilds.com/blog/the-best-1000-dollar-budget-gaming-pc-build/
Question is, what resolution and fps are you targeting.
And for the linked list, yes, the 1080 is a very capable card. If you plan to stream your gameplay i7 comes handy, otherwise for gaming an i5 is completely enough. You could also use the boxed cooler to save some money.The largest saving can be achieved by stepping back with the most expensive component and going with a 1070. For 1440p and a single monitor that suffice in most games.
 

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PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/TGCDq4
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/TGCDq4/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (€225.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler (€44.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€104.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Toshiba - 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€39.13 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: KFA2 - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB EX Video Card (€498.79 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Rosewill - Challenger S ATX Mid Tower Case (€42.56 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1189.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-11 09:43 CEST+0200
 
PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/tyMwcY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/tyMwcY/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor (€185.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (€128.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€152.74 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€68.89 @ Alternate)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€44.39 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card (€469.00 @ Caseking)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€50.98 @ Alternate)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1179.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-11 09:55 CEST+0200

Ryzen build with a 1070 and 16 gigs of RAM at 3000 Mhz, as well as SSD and HDD.
 

lunarfreakz

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This looks great with both the SSD and HDD, however I have never had a PC with AMD and I would love to keep it with the intel if possible, but if that does not work out then I will definitely consider your build!
 

lunarfreakz

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The price is amazing!!!!! However, I updated my minimum requirements if maybe if you would like to change it up a bit? No pressure, but thank you for taking the time to make this build as an option!
 


build remains the same, its upto your budget if u need a 1070.

why the rush for a hdd? filling a ssd 250gb is 3-5 triple a games, smaller games some programs , you can add a hdd later on (plug and play ) I added my hdd after 3 months...

cheers man :)
 

lunarfreakz

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This is so far the best build however it is missing an SSD (which I would like for my gaming pc) and the case seems to have unidentifiable possible issues with the cooler. I managed to adapt your pcpartpicker list a bit to my expectations for 20euro more if you would like to check it out and see if it is manageable or could maybe be improved a bit more somehow? (keeping the price below 1250 preferably!)
 
Here is the list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (€279.90 @ Caseking)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - H310M S2H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€62.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€146.58 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€59.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€44.39 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Zotac - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Mini Video Card (€560.00 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair - 270R ATX Mid Tower Case (€59.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1293.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-11 10:58 CEST+0200

This is strong and well balanced build.
I know people will complain about listing H310 motherboard instead of B360 motherboard but this motherboard covers majority of features and all ot he important ones that B360 board covers and packs in good quality. There is no reason to spend more to get B360 unless you wan't to add multiple HDDs to the build as it will be limited to support 3 HDDs excluding SSD.
This will be good 15-25% improvement over i5 and GTX1070Ti combo which is decent gain and worth it as future games have good possibility of utilizing more cores.
 
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I am not an expert on motherboards but I trust you when you say that H310 is a good enough motherboard features.
I was wondering whether in your opinion the i7-8700 is better than the i5-8600K? (Also how come your build does not include a CPU Cooler?)

I managed to get 20euro cheaper when I changed the CPU to i5-8600K, however I do not mind paying 20euro extra if the i7-8700 is better.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/X4x2mq
 


i5-8600K and i7-8700 have their own plus points for example the i5-8600K can be overclocked a bit higher than i7-8700. But the difference in performance gain in some games due to increase in clock speed is lost in others where it utilizes more cores or while running some background applications. There is also good possibility of future games utilizing more cores so I personally recommend going for i7 instead of i5 if budget allows.
The very minimal loss in fps in few games is balanced by usage of GTX1080 instead of GTX1070Ti as it gives good 15-20% boost on itself.
Intel i7-8700 comes with decent Intel stock cooler in the box so there is no requirement of buying additional CPU cooler.
 
As I said both i5 and i7 are good but i5 losses its stand as overall performer but beats up i7 by a small margin when compared gaming alone. i7 on other hand may loose to i5 K series by small margin for gaming performance alone but it stands very strong for overall performance compared to i5. I personally choose i7. But everyone has different preferences so final decision is yours to make.
 


The RAM should be 3200 for the best performance.
 

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Refering to the Memory chosen, I am glad it is dual (2x8GB) however @ElectrO_90 just mentioned that 3200 for RAM gives the best performance, what do you reckon? DDR4-2400 being enough for the specs you mentioned or getting 3200? (I mean the budget has already been exceeded so do you think DDR4-2400 is good enough?)
 

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Also as I have been making my own builds my main complication is choosing a Case for my gaming pc, I kind of have an idea of how it should look on the inside but many look different. How do I know the one you chose for the build is going to fit everything? https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/JcgPxr/corsair-270r-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011106-ww

Also is there maybe a case that would have all the "front" USB ports, headphone port and power button at the front? (I keep my pc on the right side of my desk) - this is a MINOR issue so no need to change if its too much of a hassle!
 
DDR4 3000 and 3200 RAM is important to improve performance of AMD Ryzen build as there is drastic improvement in performance with higher speeds of RAM. The performance of Intel build is not effected much by the speed of RAM. The non Z370 motherboards only support speeds upto 2666. As I said above there is no high performance improvement with higher RAM speed in Intel platform builds.

The case I opted has enough space for the build I listed. There is also Corsair 200R check that case. It has front ports and is lot easier to work in and is best case in its budget range. Go for Corsair 200R instead of 270R. Both are good cases but 200R is bit more easier to work in and has front ports.
 

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Perfect! Thank you so much! Now I have to check all these parts on dutch websites and for the lowest prices. I will get back to you once I do this!

 

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About the HDD, you decided to choose the "Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive" however I managed to find a cheaper HDD on German Amazon called "Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM010 Interne harde schijf 1 TB, 8,9 cm (3,5 inch), cache geheugen 64 MB, SATA, snelheid 7200 rpm 1 TB" for 39.69euro (5euro cheaper).

Should I get the cheaper one or stick to the one you chose for extra speed or what it is that makes it more expensive?

 

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About the Case once again, as you said I should get the "Corsair Carbide 200R", however the cheapest is 67.90euro on German Amazon.

I found two other alternatives:
1. Corsair Carbide SPEC-01 (47.27euro)
2. Corsair - Carbide Series 88R (45.99euro)

Should I keep the Corsair Carbide 200R due to some advantages or spare the 20euro and get one of the abovementioned options? (I do not mind)
 


Then stick with Corsair 270R. The two cases you listed are bit hard to build and not too comfy.
Even if 270R has ports on side you will get used to it over time.
Also check price for Fractal Design 2300 if that is available go for it.