[SOLVED] How Is The Ryzen 5 1400 is better then the Ryzen 3 2200G ??

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It's definitely the SMT on the 1400. The 4 extra threads give it higher multithreaded performance, which can result in far better 1% lows in some games. I'd say the 1400 is indeed a better gaming CPU than the 2200G because of frame time consistency. The 2200G will have ever so slightly higher average frame rates though.

In regards to the poor GPU performance in UBM, that is not caused by the CPU. The UBM GPU benchmark runs with minimal load on the CPU to remove any bottleneck.
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It's definitely the SMT on the 1400. The 4 extra threads give it higher multithreaded performance, which can result in far better 1% lows in some games. I'd say the 1400 is indeed a better gaming CPU than the 2200G because of frame time consistency. The 2200G will have ever so slightly higher average frame rates though.

In regards to the poor GPU performance in UBM, that is not caused by the CPU. The UBM GPU benchmark runs with minimal load on the CPU to remove any bottleneck.
 
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MasterMadBones said:
It's definitely the SMT on the 1400. The 4 extra threads give it higher multithreaded performance, which can result in far better 1% lows in some games. I'd say the 1400 is indeed a better gaming CPU than the 2200G because of frame time consistency. The 2200G will have ever so slightly higher average frame rates though.
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This is why I'm asking -https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserR...A4KzIl30YPakdg6XkicGfQqUYxg9JTTA5Sma-vDVtcHE4

And the Computer Builder told me low graphics card thing is cause the CPU and upgrading to the 1400 would help that

Is my Computer Builder correct on that or is there something better of an upgrade of CPU to my motherboard that wouldn't cost a whole lot?
 
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I was typing this when you replied:
MasterMadBones said:
In regards to the poor GPU performance in UBM, that is not caused by the CPU. The UBM GPU benchmark runs with minimal load on the CPU to remove any bottleneck.
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That does not mean that couldn't happen in real games, although it's unlikely in the vast majority of games.

I don't really think there is a huge problem with the GPU's performance here. The curve for the RX 580 is rather tight, so a couple of fps can make a huge difference in percentile. You have the Sapphire model, which runs exactly at AMD's spec, while others are overclocked slightly. In fact, I'm seeing a lot of massively overclocked RX 580 cards on UBM that count toward the average. You're also on a PCIe 3.0 x8 link due to the CPU, but that shouldn't make a big difference, if any.
 
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MasterMadBones said:
I was typing this when you replied:

That does not mean that couldn't happen in real games, although it's unlikely in the vast majority of games.

I don't really think there is a huge problem with the GPU's performance here. The curve for the RX 580 is rather tight, so a couple of fps can make a huge difference in percentile. You have the Sapphire model, which runs exactly at AMD's spec, while others are overclocked slightly. In fact, I'm seeing a lot of massively overclocked RX 580 cards on UBM that count toward the average. You're also on a PCIe 3.0 x8 link due to the CPU, but that shouldn't make a big difference, if any.
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So Ryzen 5 1400 wouldn't make the graphics card run better basically being the 2200G has a Radeon Vega Graphics ??

I can tell my graphics card is performing lower then it should with games like Second Life, Perfect World International, World of Warcraft, etc

What would be an upgrade to your opinion?

Even a Computer Store told me the next thing I should upgrade is the CPU to be away from the 2200G has a Radeon Vega Graphics since I have the AMD Sapphire RX 580 Nitro+ 8GB Graphics Card
 
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UBM says you have the 4GB version. Be sure to check that in task manager. Apparently UBM throws the 4GB and 8GB variants of that card on the same pile as well, so that can also affect your percentile.

With the games you play, the graphics quality is low that you will always have a CPU bottleneck. The 1400 would likely make performance worse as well, because the game can't use the extra threads. If you want any kind of meaningful upgrade in those games, you should look for a Ryzen 5 3600.
 
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MasterMadBones said:
UBM says you have the 4GB version. Be sure to check that in task manager. Apparently UBM throws the 4GB and 8GB variants of that card on the same pile as well, so that can also affect your percentile.

With the games you play, the graphics quality is low that you will always have a CPU bottleneck. The 1400 would likely make performance worse as well, because the game can't use the extra threads. If you want any kind of meaningful upgrade in those games, you should look for a Ryzen 5 3600.
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Where are you seeing that it only shows 4GB?

I think I see where you see it at
AMD RX 580-$249
420,410 User benchmarks, average bench 57%
Sapphire(174B E347) ≥ 4GB
CLim: 1342 MHz, MLim: 2000 MHz, Ram: 8GB, Driver: 20.3.1


This is inside my Graphics Card Icon -https://forums.techguy.org/threads/...fe.1243485/page-2#lg=attachment276360&slide=0

Task Manager - https://forums.techguy.org/threads/...fe.1243485/page-2#lg=attachment276361&slide=0

The Ryzen 5 3600 would that work with my motherboard?

MSInfo 32 Screenshot -
https://forums.techguy.org/threads/...fe.1243485/page-2#lg=attachment276358&slide=0
 
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The 2600 is normally a substantial upgrade over the 2200G, but not so much for the games you play because they are all from the early 2000s and rely mostly on single-threaded performance.

I also cannot open the images because I don't have a Techguy account. Seems UBM fooled me as well so it doesn't really matter.
 
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