How long will a G3258 last?

[rca33]

hi, i was just wondering. if i build a budget gaming pc with a g3258 now, how long will it last me before replacing the cpu?
this is with regards to the technology needed by future upcoming games(cores/hyper-threading).
i will be pairing it with a GTX 750ti or higher GPU.
i will over clock.
30fps is MY sweetspot.
thanks!

this is based on this channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgjH1C1Y6HtPzuFWkwYlgNw
he can play many and new games with this cpu and gpu
he can play GTA 5, star wars: battlefront, battlefield 4,witcher 3, tomb raider, mad max, NFS rivals and many others.
all in decent FPS and settings on an OCed g3258 and a gtx 750ti

 

[thor220]

You should be fine for some time if you don't go over 1080p. Intel hasn't really made any advancements in CPU speed in the last 7 years so I would expect an G3258 to last awhile. I would almost expect a desktop ARM processor to come out to rival intel desktop processors before you need to upgrade.

 

[con635]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rutk9ErhKG4
Fps is not everything, look at frame times in the video and even in reviews like toms, for a much better experience get an i3/i5 even if you must go used.

 

[ccampy]

Not made any Advancement's in 7. Years? We have had over a 200% increase in that time not what I'd call small
People nned to stop expecting 40-50% a year those days are gone the easy gains have long since been had

 

[jeffredo]

I have a G3258 @ 4.5 Ghz paired with a GTX 960. It actually performs pretty well @ 1920x1200. It replaced a Phenom II X4 980 BE @ 4.1 Ghz is is definitely better in every way. Its not my main PC - that's an i5-4690k with a GTX 780. The main is better, but I don't notice a huge difference in gaming (if I move the GTX 960 over to the i5-4690k rig). They both perform pretty similarly with the same GPU. A few games might need a little tweak downward in quality settings, but nothing drastic. As far as the future goes I can't really say. So far I haven't hit anything that has been a problem in games. I'm getting Fallout 4 when it comes out on November 10th. It'll be interesting to see how it does compared to the i5-4690k.

Long story short, for $69.99 vs. $229.99 I'm pretty happy with its performance.

 

[rca33]

I have a G3258 @ 4.5 Ghz paired with a GTX 960. It actually performs pretty well @ 1920x1200. It replaced a Phenom II X4 980 BE @ 4.1 Ghz is is definitely better in every way. Its not my main PC - that's an i5-4690k with a GTX 780. The main is better, but I don't notice a huge difference in gaming (if I move the GTX 960 over to the i5-4690k rig). They both perform pretty similarly with the same GPU. A few games might need a little tweak downward in quality settings, but nothing drastic. As far as the future goes I can't really say. So far I haven't hit anything that has been a problem in games. I'm getting Fallout 4 when it comes out on November 10th. It'll be interesting to see how it does compared to the i5-4690k.

Long story short, for $69.99 vs. $229.99 I'm pretty happy with its performance.

would you recommend the g3258? i am planning to upgrade this later in the future to an i5-4690k, maybe after a year or so.
the g3258 is so cheap compared to the i5, and i am on a tight budget and i want to game now. and maybe my main investment for now will be on the GPU, ill pick one ready for the i5.
my MAIN game btw is DOTA 2 and NBA 2K, yes i will try other games as well but not a priority with this build. is it a good idea? is the G3258 a good idea?

 

[jeffredo]

If you're really constrained in your budget and do plan on upgrading in a year or two by all means get the G3258. If you can get it an average OC out of it (4.2-4.5 Ghz) it should be a good "placeholder" CPU until you can get an i5. You probably will need a decent aftermarket air cooler though. I had an extra I wasn't using, but if you don't you have to budget $25-$30 for one.

 

[rca33]

If you're really constrained in your budget and do plan on upgrading in a year or two by all means get the G3258. If you can get it an average OC out of it (4.2-4.5 Ghz) it should be a good "placeholder" CPU until you can get an i5. You probably will need a decent aftermarket air cooler though. I had an extra I wasn't using, but if you don't you have to budget $25-$30 for one.

yes i will OC and i will definitely get an aftermarket heatsink. Thanks!

 

[thor220]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rutk9ErhKG4
Fps is not everything, look at frame times in the video and even in reviews like toms, for a much better experience get an i3/i5 even if you must go used.

There are multiple problems with this suggestion. One, it's harder to find components that'll work with older, used i3s and i5s. You'll end up with much less of a motherboard selection that what it's worth. Two, you don't have a warranty or any form of product support.. Three, the chipset will be older and it'll consume more wattage. What's the point of getting a marginal discount if your new SSD won't run at full speed?

 

[con635]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rutk9ErhKG4
Fps is not everything, look at frame times in the video and even in reviews like toms, for a much better experience get an i3/i5 even if you must go used.

There are multiple problems with this suggestion. One, it's harder to find components that'll work with older, used i3s and i5s. You'll end up with much less of a motherboard selection that what it's worth. Two, you don't have a warranty or any form of product support.. Three, the chipset will be older and it'll consume more wattage. What's the point of getting a marginal discount if your new SSD won't run at full speed?

There is arguments both ways, there's lots of used chips/mobos on ebay from genuine sellers, I've built a few rigs using 90% used ebay stuff with no problems, the people were very happy with perf/£ inc myself with my sig rig. If you can overclock the g3258 too the moon and get it stable then you'll hardly need tech support for your cpu, nor care about warranty, nor care about power consumption and I believe only benchmarks or particular scenarios would show the ssd speed difference in z97-z77 chipsets not actual usage in this guys budget gaming rig.

 

[thor220]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rutk9ErhKG4
Fps is not everything, look at frame times in the video and even in reviews like toms, for a much better experience get an i3/i5 even if you must go used.

There are multiple problems with this suggestion. One, it's harder to find components that'll work with older, used i3s and i5s. You'll end up with much less of a motherboard selection that what it's worth. Two, you don't have a warranty or any form of product support.. Three, the chipset will be older and it'll consume more wattage. What's the point of getting a marginal discount if your new SSD won't run at full speed?

There is arguments both ways, there's lots of used chips/mobos on ebay from genuine sellers, I've built a few rigs using 90% used ebay stuff with no problems, the people were very happy with perf/£ inc myself with my sig rig. If you can overclock the g3258 too the moon and get it stable then you'll hardly need tech support for your cpu, nor care about warranty, nor care about power consumption and I believe only benchmarks or particular scenarios would show the ssd speed difference in z97-z77 chipsets not actual usage in this guys budget gaming rig.

I love overclocking but that doesn't mean I don't like warranties. Intel does offer a warranty for overclocked processors. It should also be noted that warranties for other parts like video cards and power supplies are invalid when resold. I don't know about you but I like having my computer parts protect against manufacturer's defects. You're argument resolves around the PC builder being irresponsible and frankly isn't a good point.

 

[con635]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rutk9ErhKG4
Fps is not everything, look at frame times in the video and even in reviews like toms, for a much better experience get an i3/i5 even if you must go used.

There are multiple problems with this suggestion. One, it's harder to find components that'll work with older, used i3s and i5s. You'll end up with much less of a motherboard selection that what it's worth. Two, you don't have a warranty or any form of product support.. Three, the chipset will be older and it'll consume more wattage. What's the point of getting a marginal discount if your new SSD won't run at full speed?

There is arguments both ways, there's lots of used chips/mobos on ebay from genuine sellers, I've built a few rigs using 90% used ebay stuff with no problems, the people were very happy with perf/£ inc myself with my sig rig. If you can overclock the g3258 too the moon and get it stable then you'll hardly need tech support for your cpu, nor care about warranty, nor care about power consumption and I believe only benchmarks or particular scenarios would show the ssd speed difference in z97-z77 chipsets not actual usage in this guys budget gaming rig.

I love overclocking but that doesn't mean I don't like warranties. Intel does offer a warranty for overclocked processors. It should also be noted that warranties for other parts like video cards and power supplies are invalid when resold. I don't know about you but I like having my computer parts protect against manufacturer's defects. You're argument resolves around the PC builder being irresponsible and frankly isn't a good point.

My argument revolves around me and many people I build for (not all, most want warranty and all 'new' like yourself) dont want to pay for a warranty that will most likely never be used and every single time without fail they get a budget gaming pc which is light years ahead of a brand new build for the same price. eg athlon and 260x vs i5 4570 and hd7950 (2 of my recent builds, both £450 tower only). Your suggestion is buy a lower tier chip and overclock the hell out of it to come sort of near an i3 in fps, nowhere near in smoothness/frame times because warranty, support and power consumption???

 

[thor220]

"Your suggestion is buy a lower tier chip and overclock the hell out of it to come sort of near an i3 in fps, nowhere near in smoothness/frame times because warranty, support and power consumption???"

First off, a stock i3 isn't anywhere nearly as fast as an overclocked g3258. An i3 is only marginally better because it has hyper-threading. If you are running an app that doesn't use that, it's just as slow as a stock g3258.

Second, yes. I would advise my customer to have the latest feature set. It turns out that newer processors have newer instructions and generally run better than last generation.

I'm guessing you are willing to compensate your customers when something goes wrong? When you're buying used, you're essentially buying products without warranty and with a shortened life. For all you know, some guy could have been running these parts in a heater closet. A 10c difference in temperature halves the life of capacitors.

I guess that's how you get repeat business though. Buy products that are run through hell and then sell that same customer another half assed build again.

 

[WhiteSnake91]

I've heard arguments both ways for getting or not getting the g3258, but if you're not playing super demanding games you should be fine until you can buy an i5, the 750ti is certainly good enough to play most stuff well on 1080p, read articles saying it's stronger than the next gen consoles and have seen gameplay vids of it playing many games on 1080p high(sometimes ultra). You should be fine with your fps, I'm personally fine with 30fps too, and it saves alot of money not "having" to have 60fps too. Been playing the new MGS V at a locked 30fps with my older gtx660 (which is a tiny bit better than the 750ti) and it seems much more cinematic than 60fps and it feels good.

I've been wanting to build a cheap little g3258 rig for awhile to see how it performs in real world usage and gaming/multitasking. Some swear it's good and I've seen the youtube vids of it playing new stuff as well smoothly, but then others say the FPS isn't everything in the corner of the screen, and that they commonly get fps drops or stuttering. I suppose for the price you can't go wrong though.

here's a vid of a g3258 and 750ti playing witcher 3 smoothly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHeqrQsPYs0

here's a side by side comparison of a g3258 and 750ti pc against the ps4, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxUPJdcChzE

only thing that turned me off personally was reports of stuttering/lagging at points, but, there's no telling if the comments were true, trolls, maybe they didn't have enough ram, bad ram, bad psu, bad hdd, bad motherboard....who knows. Most vids I've ever seen show the g3258 playing stuff smooth, but, just don't think it's future proof, an i5 would be much better, but the g3258 will certainly get the job done

just looked up more, seems like the same guy that did the Witcher 3 video earlier also had a Battlefield Hardline multiplayer vid with the g3258 and 750ti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQiw7ep3Czs

plays it very smooth on ultra 1080p as you can see in the left stats in the vid.

If you do end up getting the g3258, please post back if it does play stuff smoothly for you 😀

 

[con635]

"Your suggestion is buy a lower tier chip and overclock the hell out of it to come sort of near an i3 in fps, nowhere near in smoothness/frame times because warranty, support and power consumption???"

First off, a stock i3 isn't anywhere nearly as fast as an overclocked g3258. An i3 is only marginally better because it has hyper-threading. If you are running an app that doesn't use that, it's just as slow as a stock g3258.

Second, yes. I would advise my customer to have the latest feature set. It turns out that newer processors have newer instructions and generally run better than last generation.

I'm guessing you are willing to compensate your customers when something goes wrong? When you're buying used, you're essentially buying products without warranty and with a shortened life. For all you know, some guy could have been running these parts in a heater closet. A 10c difference in temperature halves the life of capacitors.

I guess that's how you get repeat business though. Buy products that are run through hell and then sell that same customer another half assed build again.

Nothing has ever went wrong nor have I ever bought or built anything 'half assed', my p166 in the loft still runs I'm sure (did last year and its a packard bell!), my pentium d still runs fine, the 4800x2 I actually bought used years ago still works away in a friends steam machine, I could go on.... Fwiw the pentium is completey gimped re new instruction sets :/ , we're talking about gaming and every single review shows i3 slamming the oc pentium in frame times :/ maybe you should read more about the topic. I simply suggest sometimes buying a cpu/gpu used when people have really low budget as sometimes its alot more perf/£, ebay and building pcs is easy with experience but whatever. I'm out of this, wont be replying to you now, your tone suggests you've no more debate points and is just going towards personal attacks, I even said there was arguments both ways in my original reply.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-i3-4130-Dual-Core-Processor-CPU-3M-Cache-3-40-GHz-New-Sys-Pull-/231720560380?hash=item35f39f26fc:g:tD8AAOSwYHxWHmZH

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-pentium-k-g3258-lga-1150-haswell-dual-core-32ghz-clock-1100mhz-gpu-32x-ratio-cpu-retail

 

[rca33]

I've heard arguments both ways for getting or not getting the g3258, but if you're not playing super demanding games you should be fine until you can buy an i5, the 750ti is certainly good enough to play most stuff well on 1080p, read articles saying it's stronger than the next gen consoles and have seen gameplay vids of it playing many games on 1080p high(sometimes ultra). You should be fine with your fps, I'm personally fine with 30fps too, and it saves alot of money not "having" to have 60fps too. Been playing the new MGS V at a locked 30fps with my older gtx660 (which is a tiny bit better than the 750ti) and it seems much more cinematic than 60fps and it feels good.

I've been wanting to build a cheap little g3258 rig for awhile to see how it performs in real world usage and gaming/multitasking. Some swear it's good and I've seen the youtube vids of it playing new stuff as well smoothly, but then others say the FPS isn't everything in the corner of the screen, and that they commonly get fps drops or stuttering. I suppose for the price you can't go wrong though.

here's a vid of a g3258 and 750ti playing witcher 3 smoothly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHeqrQsPYs0

here's a side by side comparison of a g3258 and 750ti pc against the ps4, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxUPJdcChzE

only thing that turned me off personally was reports of stuttering/lagging at points, but, there's no telling if the comments were true, trolls, maybe they didn't have enough ram, bad ram, bad psu, bad hdd, bad motherboard....who knows. Most vids I've ever seen show the g3258 playing stuff smooth, but, just don't think it's future proof, an i5 would be much better, but the g3258 will certainly get the job done

just looked up more, seems like the same guy that did the Witcher 3 video earlier also had a Battlefield Hardline multiplayer vid with the g3258 and 750ti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQiw7ep3Czs

plays it very smooth on ultra 1080p as you can see in the left stats in the vid.

If you do end up getting the g3258, please post back if it does play stuff smoothly for you 😀

sure.