How many fans define s? Opinion on build?

[Stoop14]

I'm going to build this computer. http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kJcz7h should the stock 2 fans be enough? Or should I pick up extra? Also out of those 2 wifi cards what one? Also would u guys change anything?

 

[boosted1g]

I would go ahead and add 1 more intake and 1 more exhaust.

In regards to the wifi cards, the answer is neither.
Since ths is clearly a gaming rig then you want as low of latency (delay) as possible and wifi is not the answer.
Assuming that you can not run an Ethernet cable then the next best option would be an av600 or better (like av1000 or av1200) powerline network adapter. Real world speed will be better then this if you have 2+ walls for wifi to go through, and latency will be better then wifi even if you are in same room as router.
https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Powerline-1000Mbps-TL-PA7020-KIT/dp/B01EE9APYS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471446073&sr=8-1&keywords=av1000+powerline+adapter
Now FYI these have to be plugged DIRECTLY into wall outlet. No surge protector, no power strip, no even 1 to 3 plug adapter, straight into outlet.

 

[Stoop14]

Where would you place the fans? If I add 2 more? Cause you want to keep the air moving in one direction right?

 

[boosted1g]

2 intake in front of case, 1 exhaust top, 1 exhaust back.

 

[Stoop14]

So keep the 2 stock fans? Or buy 4 new ones? All the same size?

 

[boosted1g]

Assuming the R5 is the same as my R4, it came with 1 intake and one back exhaust. Buy 1 more for intake and 1 more for top exhaust

 

[Stoop14]

Assuming the R5 is the same as my R4, it came with 1 intake and one back exhaust. Buy 1 more for intake and 1 more for top exhaust

I'm getting the define s

 

[Karadjgne]

1x in top, 1x exhaust and 2x intakes.

Placement is up to you. Those are really good fans, so matching them up would be best, or, if the colors don't sit well, move both stock to intake and get color matching or led or whatever fans for the exhaust, since you won't see the intakes at all.

The PSU is overkill/over priced for the needs of a single gpu + oc
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/2L3RsY/xfx-power-supply-p1750bbefx
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/R2mxFT/corsair-power-supply-cp9020103na

 

[boosted1g]

Define S, 5, and 4 all have same amount of included fans and layout.

So add 1 more intake and 1 exhaust to top as advised

Agreed with Karadjgne, 750w is massive overkill for single 970. A 650w is still plenty, 550w would be enough but not give much wiggle room

 

[Stoop14]

What about if I want to go sli in the future? Or in 3 years get the latest and greatest to version?

 

[Stoop14]

I'm. Getting a 1080 not a 970

 

[boosted1g]

Sorry, had you build mixed up in my head with another.

Regardless a 1080 uses 180 TDP so the same stands for single GPU.

If you think you are going to SLI in the future then you should actually go up to 850w. While the 750 will work perfectly fine, it just does not provide you with too much wiggle room.

 

[Karadjgne]

If sli is a remote possibility, 750w. If sli is an absolutely not, 550w. But consider this. The 970/980 came out less than 3 years ago. Currently, a single 1080 has better overall performance than a sli of either. There's just too many games/apps that don't have great sli support. Some do, most don't. So sli is best from the start, or close to it, the gpus 3 years from now should be so far advanced, sli 1080's would be almost pointless by comparison. You wouldn't buy 2x 970's for sli now since a single 1080 does a much better overall job if not so well compared to the 970's in a few specific games.

 

[Stoop14]

So 650 or 550? Also is that cooler gpu good enough to oc to like 4.5ghZ? And is that motherboard over priced? Like should I go with the asus z170-a? For 60$ less? I appreciate the good sound card on the rog.

 

[Karadjgne]

I'd not be happy with the hyper212. You've built a top line OC pc and dropped a budget cooler on it. Even though it's a skylake cpu, its an i7, and some of those cpus can come stock with 1.4v depending on the lottery. Pushed under stress or rendering type loads, close to 100% on all 8 threads, that cooler isn't going to douch for a 4.5GHz OC. For any of the overclockable i7's I'd recommend 4.2GHz at best unless you can almost guarantee that it'll never see extreme loadage.

For that system, you should be looking at a Cryorig H5, Phanteks PH TC12, or if you never want to hear the cooler, a Cryorig R1, Noctua nh-D14, Phanteks PH TC14

 

[Stoop14]

If I was too good aio cooler say a corsair i100v2. What would my fan layout be then?

 

[Karadjgne]

I have a 3770k OC 4.6GHz. Fractal Design Define R5. There's only 4 fans. Both stock fans on intake, Nzxt Kraken x61 stock fans as exhaust. That's it, don't need more. When cpu fans ramp up, so do intakes, so airflow remains constant. No need for rear exhaust, heat flows up from the gpu and out the top. Trying to drag it sideways is counter productive

 

[Stoop14]

I'm know every part I'm getting for the build just a little confused on what cpu cooler to get. The aio coolers scare be because I'm not sure how many fans I would need and if those need 4 fans or what not. I don't even know how to OC a cpu something I'm planning on learning with this build. So that's why I was thinking air. And most of those coolers you mentioned you can't get in canada. I can get a noct 14 up here but those brown fans are so damn ugly.

 

[Karadjgne]

Lol, yeah, common complaint with those coolers.
AIO's are easy. They come with their own fan(s). So you take both the fans that come with the case and mount them in the front as intakes. Then install the AIO and it's fans at the top of the case.
All done.
Exactly how you mount the AIO is up to you. Some ppl prefer to use the longer screws through the fans (turn the case on its sjde) and then the radiator for a Pull configuration. Works best for lower rpm fans and makes eating the radiator extremely easy. Some ppl have clearance issues with the mobo at the top of the case so pretty much have to mount the AIO in a Push configuration. Mount the rad, screw on the fans. Common mount when ppl use led fans instead of the stock ones.

 

[Stoop14]

The noctua fans cost almost as much as much as a aio. And using just the 2 fans on the radio is enough to keep the hot air out of the case the gpu blows into it?

 

[Karadjgne]

Think of it this way. 4 fans in the case. 2 blowing cold air in, 2 blowing hot air out. That's it. Just because the 2 blowing air out are attached to a radiator doesn't mean they get air from some place else magically, its still the same operation. Doesn't make a difference even if the gpu is topping out on heat, the rad fans suck that out easily. Heat rises naturally and the rad fans just help it out the top.

 

[Stoop14]

Does it matter the exhaust fans are smaller then the intake?

 

[Karadjgne]

Nope. They'll just spin a little faster. Or you can turn down the intakes. My front intakes generally run @ 540rpm (as low as they go) unless I'm into a heavy game, then they'll ramp up to @800rpm tops. Aio fans run at @600rpm idle and gaming @900rpm. Neither ever run at max, even under stress loads. Gpu fans are so good they don't turn on till the gpu hits @65°C and hit @70% speed at 80°C which only ever happens under stress testing.

Between the overwhelming cooling ability of a 280mm rad with good 140mm fans, 2x good 140mm fans in front intake and the thermal efficiency of the newer intel/gpus chipsets, its getting to the point where it's getting almost impossible to overheat a decent case airflow. You are much more likely to hit voltage limits on the components long before thermal limits. And skylake cpus are even better than my old Ivy-Bridge.