How Many Use Windows 2000?

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Just an informal poll: how many here are using either Windows
2000 or Windows 2003 for playing FS2004?

The recent upgrade to Reality-XP's Garmin GPS is now Windows XP
only. Because XP has 85% market share and Windows 2K has only
5% market share, they decided to only support XP. What is even
a worse development is that Dreamfleet's latest airplane only
supports Windows XP (probably because it uses the Reality Garmin,
but they refuse to disclose why). When you ask Reality what API
they use in Windows XP that is not present in Windows 2000, they
refuse to answer claiming it is "proprietary". (How can
Microsoft's public API be proprietary to the vendor that uses
it?!)

I tried to start a thread on Dreamfleet's support forum, but
their policy appears to be to simply answer "tough" and then lock
down the thread so no one can say anything further. They
encourage people to "upgrade" to Windows XP, which is of course a
non-sequitor considering that Windows XP is a consumer system and
Windows 2000 is a more robust OS with a superset of the basic OS
and APIs found in Windows XP.

Before I go out and blow another $1500 to buy a Windows XP
computer just to play FS2004, and before I spend another 40 hours
of my life re-installing the 20 other aircraft and hardware
add-ons to the toy operating system, I just want to be convinced
that very few people are running anything else but Windows XP.
Having a separate computer for FS2004 is probably not a bad thing
in any case, as I can keep the configuration simple and focused,
but if there are any other Windows 2000 users out there I would
like to hear from you.

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:59:35 -0800, "Will"
<DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> brought the following to our
attention:

Will.. the 85% market comes from where? New sales? Really now.. I'll
bet a LOT of companies still have Win2000-based departments. Back in
1998 I predicted both verbally and in writing that continuously up-
grading hardware, software... and the support to straighten out issues
would WIPE the profits from a company.

Personally I witnessed a company that was mired in serious and
unresolved WinNT/95/95 system and office problems that were killing
their bottom line. So then.. let's venture to say that quite a few
LARGE organizations are still using 2000. (any more data on this?)


* * * *

Personally.. am quite happy with a Win2000 Advanced Server and
5-client Wkstn License.. and run the Server on a BIG boat-anchor of
a box with 6-bay horizontal SCSI cage in front. Not to mention a dual
Xeon Workstation which is the main-line machine! Here's the `Lab'..


http://home.comcast.net/~g-abbey/dual_Sim.jpg (dual 21" tubes)

* notice Sidewinder Precision 2, and mini-stick (arrow) for spoilers



As for DF.. installing one of their latest packages in Win2000 Pro
damaged the OS to a `near re-install' condition. (see post in this NG)
With some Admin tricks and Recovery Console.. was able to repair the
OS fully. T-o-M for instance works ok now.. but like you said.. NOT
ready to shell out 1'000s of $$ for a new LAN and OS license.


This isn't a rag on DF.. just a reply in support of the Win2000 OS.


-Gregory


p.s. been wanting to post that pic.. just had to find it!! :)

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>Just an informal poll: how many here are using either Windows
>2000 or Windows 2003 for playing FS2004?
>
>The recent upgrade to Reality-XP's Garmin GPS is now Windows XP
>only. Because XP has 85% market share and Windows 2K has only
>5% market share, they decided to only support XP. What is even
>a worse development is that Dreamfleet's latest airplane only
>supports Windows XP (probably because it uses the Reality Garmin,
>but they refuse to disclose why). When you ask Reality what API
>they use in Windows XP that is not present in Windows 2000, they
>refuse to answer claiming it is "proprietary". (How can
>Microsoft's public API be proprietary to the vendor that uses
>it?!)
>
>I tried to start a thread on Dreamfleet's support forum, but
>their policy appears to be to simply answer "tough" and then lock
>down the thread so no one can say anything further. They
>encourage people to "upgrade" to Windows XP, which is of course a
>non-sequitor considering that Windows XP is a consumer system and
>Windows 2000 is a more robust OS with a superset of the basic OS
>and APIs found in Windows XP.
>
>Before I go out and blow another $1500 to buy a Windows XP
>computer just to play FS2004, and before I spend another 40 hours
>of my life re-installing the 20 other aircraft and hardware
>add-ons to the toy operating system, I just want to be convinced
>that very few people are running anything else but Windows XP.
>Having a separate computer for FS2004 is probably not a bad thing
>in any case, as I can keep the configuration simple and focused,
>but if there are any other Windows 2000 users out there I would
>like to hear from you.
 
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"Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in message
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> Just an informal poll: how many here are using either Windows
> 2000 or Windows 2003 for playing FS2004?

I use W2K Pro on my only computer.

> The recent upgrade to Reality-XP's Garmin GPS is now Windows XP
> only. Because XP has 85% market share and Windows 2K has only
> 5% market share, they decided to only support XP. What is even
> a worse development is that Dreamfleet's latest airplane only
> supports Windows XP (probably because it uses the Reality Garmin,
> but they refuse to disclose why). When you ask Reality what API
> they use in Windows XP that is not present in Windows 2000, they
> refuse to answer claiming it is "proprietary". (How can
> Microsoft's public API be proprietary to the vendor that uses
> it?!)

Guess I'll avoid those products, then. Oh well, they sounded nice, but
if they won't work with my OS...

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:59:35 -0800

Newsgroups: alt.games.microsoft.flight-sim
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:59 AM
Subject: How Many Use Windows 2000?

Just an informal poll: how many here are using either Windows
2000 or Windows 2003 for playing FS2004?

Count me for one.

The recent upgrade to Reality-XP's Garmin GPS is now Windows XP
only. Because XP has 85% market share and Windows 2K has only
5% market share, they decided to only support XP...

I have a hard time believing that XP has 85% of the market share and
that Windows 2000 only has 5%. Since the last I had heard the
Windows 9x (including ME) still has about 50% of the market share.

... I tried to start a thread on Dreamfleet's support forum,
but their policy appears to be to simply answer "tough" and
then lock down the thread so no one can say anything further.
They encourage people to "upgrade" to Windows XP, which is of
course a non-sequitor considering that Windows XP is a consumer
system and Windows 2000 is a more robust OS with a superset of
the basic OS and APIs found in Windows XP.

I don't like the sound of that!

Before I go out and blow another $1500 to buy a Windows XP
computer just to play FS2004, and before I spend another 40
hours of my life re-installing the 20 other aircraft and
hardware add-ons to the toy operating system, I just want to be
convinced that very few people are running anything else but
Windows XP. Having a separate computer for FS2004 is probably
not a bad thing in any case, as I can keep the configuration
simple and focused, but if there are any other Windows 2000
users out there I would like to hear from you.

Well count me in! I've told people who have XP to go ahead and
install SP2. And in every case I have been called out to fix them.
And XP SP2 was removed to restore them back to operational state
once again. XP SP2 has some good things, but it only allows all or
nothing. That is so sad! I'm glad that I still only use Windows 2000
here.






Cheers!


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Will wrote:
> Because XP has 85% market share and Windows 2K has only
> 5% market share, they decided to only support XP.

Where did those statistics come from? I know loads of people on Windows
2000, I reckon the percentage is higher than that.

Huw
 
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Here is the thread I started on the Flightsim forum asking why
did they fail to support Windows 2000:

http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/DCForumID33/86.html

They refer to the statistics I am quoting in the thread.

From what I understand the Dreamfleet airplane runs under Windows
2000. They just don't support it. The problem is that Reality
XP actively *blocks* Windows 2000. Not supporting is one thing.
Deliberately crippling is quite another, and it seems just petty.
He is going to make people spend thousands of dollars to buy new
hardware and run a second OS just to avoid three or four days of
programming?

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> Will wrote:
> > Because XP has 85% market share and Windows 2K has only
> > 5% market share, they decided to only support XP.
>
> Where did those statistics come from? I know loads of people
on Windows
> 2000, I reckon the percentage is higher than that.
>
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> Will wrote:
> > Because XP has 85% market share and Windows 2K has only
> > 5% market share, they decided to only support XP.
>
> Where did those statistics come from? I know loads of people on Windows
> 2000, I reckon the percentage is higher than that.
>
> Huw
count me i nIuse win 2000 pro only on all my computers

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I work for the main power distributor in my state (NSW Australia) and
every one of the thousands of PCs and laptops they use runs Windows
2000 Pro.I'm not sure if this is for reliability or that they just got
the licences cheap and are too stingy to upgrade

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Will wrote:
> Just an informal poll: how many here are using either Windows
> 2000 or Windows 2003 for playing FS2004?
>
> The recent upgrade to Reality-XP's Garmin GPS is now Windows XP
> only. Because XP has 85% market share and Windows 2K has only
> 5% market share, they decided to only support XP.

<snip>

I'm guessing here, but maybe they are referring to the home PC market? I'm
sure lots of business users have 2000 on their machines, but not so many
home users perhaps? Even so, those figures still seem a bit skewed.

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"Will" <DELETE_westes@earthbroadcast.com> wrote in
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> Just an informal poll: how many here are using either Windows
> 2000 or Windows 2003 for playing FS2004?
>
> The recent upgrade to Reality-XP's Garmin GPS is now Windows XP
> only. Because XP has 85% market share and Windows 2K has only
> 5% market share, they decided to only support XP. What is even
> a worse development is that Dreamfleet's latest airplane only
> supports Windows XP (probably because it uses the Reality Garmin,
> but they refuse to disclose why). When you ask Reality what API
> they use in Windows XP that is not present in Windows 2000, they
> refuse to answer claiming it is "proprietary". (How can
> Microsoft's public API be proprietary to the vendor that uses
> it?!)
>
> I tried to start a thread on Dreamfleet's support forum, but
> their policy appears to be to simply answer "tough" and then lock
> down the thread so no one can say anything further. They
> encourage people to "upgrade" to Windows XP, which is of course a
> non-sequitor considering that Windows XP is a consumer system and
> Windows 2000 is a more robust OS with a superset of the basic OS
> and APIs found in Windows XP.
>
> Before I go out and blow another $1500 to buy a Windows XP
> computer just to play FS2004, and before I spend another 40 hours
> of my life re-installing the 20 other aircraft and hardware
> add-ons to the toy operating system, I just want to be convinced
> that very few people are running anything else but Windows XP.
> Having a separate computer for FS2004 is probably not a bad thing
> in any case, as I can keep the configuration simple and focused,
> but if there are any other Windows 2000 users out there I would
> like to hear from you.
>

My hand's in the air.

O.T., but a rant irregardless ...Am stuck with Adobe Premier 6.0, 'cause
the newest version only supports XP. Can you say discrimination? Am I
living in the past?

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"Will"
> They refer to the statistics I am quoting in the thread.

From the 2004 Avsim survey:

Windows 95 0% (0)

Windows 98, 98SE 5.9% (90)

Windows ME 1.1% (17)

Windows NT 0.3% (5)

Windows XP Home / XP Pro 87.1% (1326)

Windows 2000 5.4% (82)

The survey size is only 1522 responses... you might have an argument with
the small sample size. You might also argue out of (guessing) 20,000
sales 5.4% represents 1080 lost customers and that's $25 grand gross in lost
sales.

Money talks.

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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote in message
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"Will"

> They refer to the statistics I am quoting in the thread.

From the 2004 Avsim survey:

Windows 95 0% (0)

Windows 95 hasn't been updated as far as Windows Updates since the
late 2000's. As far as modern hardware, it isn't so good. But I
still have one machine (not connectioned to the Internet) that still
runs Windows 95 (no MS FS though).

Windows 98, 98SE 5.9% (90)

I have a hard time believing that this number as I believe it is too
low.

Windows ME 1.1% (17)

This is an odd ball OS from MS. Some "hate" it and some "love" it.
Rumors have it it MS spent too much time on Windows 2000 and not
enough time on ME.

Windows NT 0.3% (5)

No experience here whatsoever.

Windows XP Home / XP Pro 87.1% (1326)

It's big, but I doubt if it is that big!

Windows 2000 5.4% (82)

That is hard to believe. Since Windows 2000 in many ways is better
than Windows XP.

The survey size is only 1522 responses... you might have an
argument with the small sample size. You might also argue out
of (guessing) 20,000 sales 5.4% represents 1080 lost customers
and that's $25 grand gross in lost sales.

Money talks.

Dallas

Well I don't know about the above... but I only know about those
that I know of.






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BillW50 wrote:

> Well count me in! I've told people who have XP to go ahead and
> install SP2. And in every case I have been called out to fix them.
> And XP SP2 was removed to restore them back to operational state
> once again. XP SP2 has some good things, but it only allows all or
> nothing. That is so sad! I'm glad that I still only use Windows 2000
> here.

Hey Bill.... Are you saying *not* to install XP SP2????

Every time I start my computer the balloon pops up telling me I have an
update to install. I always click the X :)

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Will wrote:

> Try signing up on Dreamfleet's forum and start a new thread
> making the request. They aren't going to listen to me, that's
> clear. It's only if many Windows 2000 users get in their face
> and make a stink that they are going to understand isn't just
> used by three geeks in a closet.
>
> http://forums.flightsim.com/dcforum/DCForumID33/86.html


Will, I read the whole thread. Am I correct in reading that the majority
of user complaints logged on their Web page was from Win XP users? It
seems THAT should tell them something. I won't be buying anything from
them.

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I'm with you, but tell that to them in their public forum. I think they
are going to need to hear from 20 W2K users before they believe they aren't
all living in my house. :)

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> Will, I read the whole thread. Am I correct in reading that the majority
> of user complaints logged on their Web page was from Win XP users? It
> seems THAT should tell them something. I won't be buying anything from
> them.
 
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boB wrote:

> Hey Bill.... Are you saying *not* to install XP SP2????
>
> Every time I start my computer the balloon pops up telling me I have an
> update to install. I always click the X :)
>

Installing SP2 only broke Norton Antivirus for me. That wasn't a
problem though, as I was planning on switching virus scanners anyway and
that was the kick I needed. :)

Huw
 

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Huw Roberts wrote:

> boB wrote:
>
>> Hey Bill.... Are you saying *not* to install XP SP2????
>>
>> Every time I start my computer the balloon pops up telling me I have
>> an update to install. I always click the X :)
>>
>
> Installing SP2 only broke Norton Antivirus for me. That wasn't a
> problem though, as I was planning on switching virus scanners anyway and
> that was the kick I needed. :)
>
> Huw

I switched over to AVG Free and am as pleased as punch!

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boB wrote:
> BillW50 wrote:
>
>> Well count me in! I've told people who have XP to go ahead and
>> install SP2. And in every case I have been called out to fix them.
>> And XP SP2 was removed to restore them back to operational state
>> once again. XP SP2 has some good things, but it only allows all or
>> nothing. That is so sad! I'm glad that I still only use Windows 2000
>> here.
>
>
> Hey Bill.... Are you saying *not* to install XP SP2????
>
> Every time I start my computer the balloon pops up telling me I have an
> update to install. I always click the X :)
>

I installed sp2 and half of my programs quit working. So I uninstalled
it real quick. All the fixes to Windows sure make The Linux on my dual
boot look good.
 
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:52:39 GMT, boB <akitaREMOVECAPS77@excite.Icom>
wrote:

>BillW50 wrote:
>
>> Well count me in! I've told people who have XP to go ahead and
>> install SP2. And in every case I have been called out to fix them.
>> And XP SP2 was removed to restore them back to operational state
>> once again. XP SP2 has some good things, but it only allows all or
>> nothing. That is so sad! I'm glad that I still only use Windows 2000
>> here.
>
>Hey Bill.... Are you saying *not* to install XP SP2????
>
>Every time I start my computer the balloon pops up telling me I have an
>update to install. I always click the X :)

On the PC I just replaced, SP2 brought my frame rates down in half and
caused the audio to stutter. Uninstall left it the same way. Luckily
system restore fixed it.

Bob
 
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"boB" <akitaREMOVECAPS77@excite.Icom> wrote in message
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Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:52:39 GMT

BillW50 wrote:

> Well count me in! I've told people who have XP to go ahead and
> install SP2. And in every case I have been called out to fix them.
> And XP SP2 was removed to restore them back to operational state
> once again. XP SP2 has some good things, but it only allows all or
> nothing. That is so sad! I'm glad that I still only use Windows 2000
> here.

Hey Bill.... Are you saying *not* to install XP SP2????

Yeap! That is what I am saying.

Every time I start my computer the balloon pops up telling me I
have an update to install. I always click the X :)

Good deal boB! On the Kim Commando show (on the radio), she claims
that corporate America has to install SP2 like by April 16th. That
will be fun for sure.






Cheers!


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BillW50 wrote:
> "boB" <akitaREMOVECAPS77@excite.Icom> wrote in message
> news:XAoZd.14287$U_4.3224@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:52:39 GMT
>
> BillW50 wrote:
>
>> Well count me in! I've told people who have XP to go ahead and
>> install SP2. And in every case I have been called out to fix them.
>> And XP SP2 was removed to restore them back to operational state
>> once again. XP SP2 has some good things, but it only allows all or
>> nothing. That is so sad! I'm glad that I still only use Windows 2000
>> here.
>
> Hey Bill.... Are you saying *not* to install XP SP2????
>
> Yeap! That is what I am saying.
>
> Every time I start my computer the balloon pops up telling me I
> have an update to install. I always click the X :)
>
> Good deal boB! On the Kim Commando show (on the radio), she claims
> that corporate America has to install SP2 like by April 16th. That
> will be fun for sure.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> ________________________________________________________
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I honestly am suprised there are so many that still have not installed SP2,
if nothing else for the security reasons. I peruse the XP forums on the MS
server, and continue to see a bunch of folks that are talking about
installing SP2.
I guess I am just one that likes to keep updated best I can.

I will say, I had no trouble with it, and in fact, my XP Pro system seemed
to be a little more robust afterwards. But I did take all the necessary
precautions and made sure my system was cleaned, tuned, spyware free, and
ready for SP2.

Heck, I'm even now running dual boot with XP Pro 64 RC2, and both are doing
well. . :)




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"Bob Cordone" <nospam@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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On the PC I just replaced, SP2 brought my frame rates down in
half and caused the audio to stutter. Uninstall left it the
same way. Luckily system restore fixed it.

Hi Bob... I haven't heard that one yet. But I wouldn't doubt it. I'm
still waiting to hear from anybody who just loves SP2. But so far,
nobody.






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"Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message news:5rmdnaxdTOLd_qvfRVn-gQ@giganews.com...
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:23:27 -0600

I honestly am suprised there are so many that still have not
installed SP2, if nothing else for the security reasons.

In my experience, SP2 only has modest security. Meaning those that
has none.

I peruse the XP forums on the MS server, and continue to see a
bunch of folks that are talking about installing SP2.

It is like 75MB in size and changes the OS drastically.

I guess I am just one that likes to keep updated best I can.

Careful! As not all updates are a good thing! I used to take meds
for high blood pressure. But mine was only borderline. Although they
had made me dopey. As I couldn't remember the last 2 minutes. And
they only worked for about 2 weeks and then my blood pressure
returned to my norm anyway. So I quit taking them. Later two of them
where taken off of the market for killing people. While I know of no
software that will shorten your life, but it works about the same.

I will say, I had no trouble with it, and in fact, my XP Pro
system seemed to be a little more robust afterwards. But I did
take all the necessary precautions and made sure my system was
cleaned, tuned, spyware free, and ready for SP2.

Well you are the first! Although those that had a cleaned system to
begin with really don't need SP2. As SP2 is only useful for those
that don't.

Heck, I'm even now running dual boot with XP Pro 64 RC2, and
both are doing well. . :)

You seem to be a big upgrade fan. I rather wait and buy last years
new technology stuff at a big discount.






Cheers!


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BillW50 wrote:
> "Don Burnette" <d.burnette@clothes.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:5rmdnaxdTOLd_qvfRVn-gQ@giganews.com...
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 22:23:27 -0600
>
> I honestly am suprised there are so many that still have not
> installed SP2, if nothing else for the security reasons.
>
> In my experience, SP2 only has modest security. Meaning those that
> has none.
>
> I peruse the XP forums on the MS server, and continue to see a
> bunch of folks that are talking about installing SP2.
>
> It is like 75MB in size and changes the OS drastically.
>
> I guess I am just one that likes to keep updated best I can.
>
> Careful! As not all updates are a good thing! I used to take meds
> for high blood pressure. But mine was only borderline. Although they
> had made me dopey. As I couldn't remember the last 2 minutes. And
> they only worked for about 2 weeks and then my blood pressure
> returned to my norm anyway. So I quit taking them. Later two of them
> where taken off of the market for killing people. While I know of no
> software that will shorten your life, but it works about the same.
>
> I will say, I had no trouble with it, and in fact, my XP Pro
> system seemed to be a little more robust afterwards. But I did
> take all the necessary precautions and made sure my system was
> cleaned, tuned, spyware free, and ready for SP2.
>
> Well you are the first! Although those that had a cleaned system to
> begin with really don't need SP2. As SP2 is only useful for those
> that don't.
>
> Heck, I'm even now running dual boot with XP Pro 64 RC2, and
> both are doing well. . :)
>
> You seem to be a big upgrade fan. I rather wait and buy last years
> new technology stuff at a big discount.
>
>
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>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> ________________________________________________________
> Bill (using a HP Pavilion AMD 1.2GHZ under Windows 2000)
> -- written and edited within WordStar 5.0


LOL, yeah, I guess I am at that. I ain't happy unless I am tinkering with
something on this dang machine! I do try and stay a little behind anyways to
give me something to look foward too - holding out on upgrading my 9800 Pro,
and I know it is a bottleneck in my system right now..

To me, it seems like SP2 was a really major update to the OS, millions of
line of code were changed, a lot of things to it's core that we don't see I
am sure.



--
Don Burnette

"When you decide something is impossible to do, try to stay out of the
way of the man that's doing it."
 
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boB wrote:

> I switched over to AVG Free and am as pleased as punch!
>

Same here! :)

Huw