How Microsoft Reduces Memory Use in Windows 8

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bourgeoisdude

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[citation][nom]KawiNinjaZX[/nom]Yes, cut down 200mb of memory usage, it's not like you can't get 16GB of RAM for $150 or anything.[/citation]

What about for tablets? Or even smartphones? Or, maybe it's too much to ask to have optimized memory usage so we can use that extra RAM for other programs?
 
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Don't really care, Windows 7 will still be my preferred OS of choice. This shift towards unifying the phone OS with desktop is a mistake in my opinion. The desktop is, and should, be treated differently with respect to functionality. What translates well on a phone OS doesn't mean it will translate well to the desktop, which from everything I've seen, is the case with Windows 8. Here's hoping they go back to their Windows 7 roots with Windows 9.
 

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Good. Now just make it mind-bendingly fast. Lower memory consumption for the OS is great, but I would like to see how the differences affect larger applications like CAD/DAW/Games and photo and video editing. Will Premier use less ram? Ableton? Crysis?

I'm really hoping to see something FAST, something NEW. Give us access to DWM so clever designers can integrate wicked custom interfaces at the Windows level. Give us amazing SSD integration and optimization for crazy SPEED!
 
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Last time I checked, there was a performance drop-off after 6GB. I'm not sure how much worse it gets when scaled to 16GB, but it's noticeable between 4 and 8GB.
 

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That's a great deal. Should make x86 tablets more viable. Hope they don't forget Win7 install may take over 10 times as much disk space as XP/XP64.
 

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[citation][nom]KawiNinjaZX[/nom]Yes, cut down 200mb of memory usage, it's not like you can't get 16GB of RAM for $150 or anything.[/citation]

What??? Software optimization is the core of programming. I am not a programmer and I even I know that.
 

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Really, improvement on the activation security... Why even bother...
I think you better off improving the features and optimize more stuffs, other than wasting time on that...
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Like games for consoles, why not just "port" win8 for tablets and smartphones? You can also "aim for the tablets and smartphone" and port it back to PCs, like id and many other game developers do ^.^"
 

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[citation][nom]KawiNinjaZX[/nom]Yes, cut down 200mb of memory usage, it's not like you can't get 16GB of RAM for $150 or anything.[/citation]


Hmmm... sounds like someone went out and wasted their money on 16GB of RAM.

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I just hope that when I have 48/64GB of DDR3 RAM
the OS knows that too and
1) Keeps everything in RAM automatically
2) automatically flushes xetras when applications demands more (MRU)
3) let's me choose some "fine-tuning"
4) let's me totally control RAM & apps, processes, services, drivers
 

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On my system win8 eats 30-40% less ram than win7 with same number of applications installed. Application lunching is fast. And main thing is, in power saver mode, stuff opens almost as fast as it'd in other modes. Another thing I'd like to mention that support for older application is increased in some cases older applications are better supported than win7. I'm guessing that's because it's in preview mode.

Yeah there're dozens of glitches/bugs I can think of such as an svchost.exe goes into infinite loop every other hour(this bug is in there since winXP), multimedia are no longer recognized after a hibernation etc,. But I could care less about these because I got what I have been finally looking for -reliable hibernation-. My win7 can't hibernate(neither that smart sleep). Now I'm using win8 as a primary OS.

I'm actually quite shocked to know that most of the guys here haven't heard about 'classic start menu' soft. Everyone wants classic start menu in win8 and searching here and there for solution. Well it's been there from ages, originally made for win7 but for me it works just fine for win8 too. It basically creates another (but usable)start menu. You can also use native menu along with it. Here's the link : http://classicshell.sourceforge.net/gallery.html

Nope I didn't work for that software. Everyone's seeking to for old school menu so I thought I could help.
 

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[citation][nom]lockhrt999[/nom]...other hour(this bug is in there since winXP), multimedia are no longer recognized after a hibernation etc,. ...[/citation]
^^^
I meant multimedia keys from keyboard. Multimedia files runs fine.
 

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[citation][nom]CyberAngel[/nom]I just hope that when I have 48/64GB of DDR3 RAMthe OS knows that too and 1) Keeps everything in RAM automatically[/citation]
Windows 7 already does that when you turn off the swap file, reduce it to the minimum 16mb first this disable it.
I have 12Gb on my main PC and even though the memory footprint of the OS is relatively small it hikes up very fast when you start using programs to do daft things like edit HD video.
Yes it's good that they have reduced the OS footprint even further for Windows 8, but don't use that as an excuse to not buy lots of cheap high speed RAM because it's better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
 

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Well to defend myself, if you ask me I think 4GB of RAM is the sweet spot for Windows 7 if you aren't doing high end gaming, video editing, etc. When it comes to tablets, I'd rather have Android 3.0+, since they work really nice and don't get viruses (unless you download a shady app). Windows 7 is great, windows 8 feels rushed.
 

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[citation][nom]KawiNinjaZX[/nom]I'd rather have Android 3.0+, since they work really nice and don't get viruses (unless you download a shady app)[/citation]
Funny, Windows doesn't get viruses either (unless you download a shady program)
Even more hilarous, Macs don't get viruses (unless they download a shady program)
Slightly more worrying however US Reaper Drones don't get viruses (unless the download a shady program)
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Are you spotting a pattern?
Android is not virus immune any more than any other OS is, but you keep on fooling yourself, after all as long as you aren't hurting anyome you should be free to fap to german porn sites on your Android phone all day long.
 

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Ironic that they start caring about memory usage when most people have more memory than they know what to do with. This would have been useful back in 2003. RAM is so dirt cheap today its silly to run anything less than 8gb.
 

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[citation][nom]Parsian[/nom]What??? Software optimization is the core of programming. I am not a programmer and I even I know that.[/citation]
Dead wrong. Haven't you heard the phrase "premature optimization is the root of all evil". An experienced programmer knows that you don't start to do serious optimization until after a program runs as it should. Obviously, a brain dead design yet functional design is still not acceptable, but a functioning piece of software is far better than a non-functional one that would run 50% faster.
 
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More ways to payload malware on ram,looks a lot like the way linux handles the memory,i wonder how much code was reversed engineered.
 
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