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okay, I have 2 different pc I'm thinking of buying I know one is better but its more expensive an the cheaper one is a VR bundle that comes with a oculus rift, so the question is, is the better system so much better that I should get it over the one with a oculus rift or are they comparable enough it makes since to get the cheaper one? I will attach images with the specs.

p.s. I've tried building one to spec on pcpartpicker but I cant build one for any cheaper then what I can buy these pre built for less hassle.
 
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No what I'm saying is buy the best you can buy for your budget. Don't buy and then keep buying. Because when you buy the best you can get for your...
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I don't know what you're talking about not being able to build the same system for less or even same price. I just built a better system for less. Here you go.

You can get Windows 10 for free and use it without activating. All activating does is let you mange colors and wallpapers in display options and removes the little watermark in the corner.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X42 Rev 2 98.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($127.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($136.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: ADATA - Premier Pro SP600 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($103.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB 6GT OC Video Card
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Gray) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - B3 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $902.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-10 14:08 EDT-0400
 
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that is missing the price for the gpu so its not cheaper its actually the same price or a little more.

also you didn't even attempt to answer my question, all you did was point out that I was wrong about something.
when in actuality you were wrong but thanks for your time.....

also 1 more thing no micro or mini mobo I want a full size setup.
 
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Ok. Understood.
First off the GPU is in the list and is priced.

Secondly, to answer your question:
If you really want to go with a pre built system that's fine.
Out of the three options that you have chosen I would say the white one with the GTX 1060 is best.

In regards to the other two with the only difference being one has VR bundle and one doesn't according to what you have stated it all comes down to whether or not you want VR.

When comparing the specs of AMD vs nVidia systems there are two deciding factors between them. The RX580 has 2GB less Vram and while it can handle some VR the 1060 would do it better. The other difference is the CPU. Are you only going to be gaming or will you want to do streaming and/or video editing. If all you're going to be doing is gaming them the AMD system with the i5 will do just fine. However, on the flip side of you are going to want to stream and/or video edit you will want the i7 system since it will have hyper threading.

So out of the three options it's this:
If you want to stream and/or video edit go with the 1060+i7 system and save up to get VR if you really want it later on.

If you are just going to game then get the 580+i5 system and the deciding factor between which one will be whether or not you want VR that badly. If not then get the one without VR and save money. If so then the deal isn't that bad.
 
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oh my bad on mine its not showing a price, thank you for taking the time to answer my questions im still having the hardest time picking. the bundle pc with oculus sold out yesterday while I was trying to figure it out lol. that's what I get for waiting. I do want the vr mainly for elite dangerous cause that would be awesome but idk if it warrants getting less computer just to have it. aaaaaahhhhh
 
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None of your links work, you might want to fix those. I wouldn't buy prebuilt, much less trust one found on a website called "Car Research".

Ok. Understood.
First off the GPU is in the list and is priced.

Secondly, to answer your question:
If you really want to go with a pre built system that's fine.
Out of the three options that you have chosen I would say the white one with the GTX 1060 is best.
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There's a couple of reasons I wouldn't go with a prebuilt. The first is hidden costs - companies like Cyberpower and iBuyPower are known for poor build quality and generic components, and if something goes wrong, you get hosed if you try to RMA a part. The second is bloatware. A lot of companies that sell prebuilt systems often load the OS with so much bloatware / adware that it makes them nearly unusuable. The first thing I usually do when buying a system like that (mainly laptops) is wipe out all the bloatware / adware I can.
 
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lol that's just my email which I save the pictures at they are on amazon but from cyberpowerpc. yeah im not sure why they don't work? ill try again.


http://

there I got the link added to the one that's still available the other is temporarily out of stock it says. but there it is.

http://

the bottom one is the bundle the top is the specs for the pc in the bundle.

http://
 
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The top one is overpriced.
The middle one isn't worth buying IMO - CPU isbtoo weak.

The bottom one with vr?
That's the same one as the middle one with an oculus included & no discount as a bundle so its not worth it either.

A 4gb 580 isn't good enough for oculus anyway IMO , its driving 2 screens , 4gb is not enough vram.

 
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Oh OK. So that first one isn't bad but for the same price you could get something similar with an AMD R7 or a 7700K for the same price or not much more money. I'd avoid the second one though because I'm not sure what kind of PSU Cyberpower put in its' machines, but you will need to replace almost immediately.
 
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also why would I need to replace the psu so early if it has plenty of power for the system? what would I need to change it to? I have a few power supplys at home so I can switch it if its something I have to do? it comes with a 600 w psu? I don't see any reason why I would need to replace that.....

so update on what I decided to do I ordered all the parts that are on the specs for the white pc I have a link to above

i7 7700 3.6 MHz ,-- I understand this will have to be replaced with the GPU to OC but I got a good deal with the mobo an wont be upgrading for a long while..
NVidia GeForce gtx 1060 6gb <-- will be upgraded long in the future
16gb crucial ddr4
western itb hdd
Samsung 120gb ssd
msi mobo b250. <-- I made a mistake here I changed it so I can OC 1 Day.
window 10
3 case fans with a pcu cooler
600w psu..


ended up being 1275 after tax an shipping
 
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Best of both worlds if you can stretch to it

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($197.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX300 275GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($97.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Toshiba - P300 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.49 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB WINDFORCE OC 8G Video Card ($499.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman - R1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1169.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-08-12 11:21 EDT-0400
 
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yeah just a few things I bought were better quality then those like my cpu, mobo, ssd,liquid cooler,an psu
I wanted it to be a little more future proof then the ryzen 5, an the Samsung ssd is a godsend, an just some more power and a liquid cooler just in case I overclock one day.. I7 7700k is way ahead of ryzen 5 in benchmark
 
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There's no such thing as "future proof". The 7700K is the better gaming CPU for now but could change in the next few months. If you want a Ryzen CPU your best bets are the R7-1700 and the R5-1600X.
 
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yes I know there is no future proofing but I would like to be able to upgrade to a 1080 in the next year or two an have a pc that will last 2-4 with minimal upgrades after initial purchase.
 
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^ yes but you could have a ryzen & a 1080 NOW - that's the main argument


You're spending $170 more on a 7700k & a h60 cooler (which isnt really good enough BTW) than you would on a ryzen 1600.


If anything the ryzen is undoubtably more 'future proof' than any skylake chip.

Skylake as a socket has 8-12months more lifetime as a 'current' socket , ryzen has 3-4 years.
 
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It's not about being faster on paper. Your gaming performance on the ryzen vs the i7 is like maybe 5fps. There is no "REAL" difference in performance.

So as stated above you are choosing to go with a "better" CPU and are costing yourself the higher performance gain from the 1080 by going with a 1060.

And to top it all off you won't be upgrading to a new CPU without paying an arm and a leg for the new architecture cpu and the motherboard to go with it.
With ryzen however you can easily upgrade and do it affordably because their currency architecture will last for quite a few years to come. And you'll already have the 1080 so you won't have to upgrade to that.
 
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My theory about that is if you buy with the intention of upgrading, you'll never be satisfied with anything you have. Sure, it starts with a new GPU, then it will be a new CPU, and so on and so forth, and then you will have spent two or 3 times as much and you'll be stuck with extra components you won't have any use for. Better to buy once than to keep buying. There's always going to be people telling you to upgrade or to wait, because there's always new tech coming out. So buy now or buy more. That's really your only options.
 
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so basically your saying either way I go I will be upgrading in a few years no matter what. so I went with one with a stronger cpu an a very capable gpu this time next time ill try with a weaker amd chipset with a 1080 or equivalent at the time. I was set on the i7 7700k I know its reliable an a very good chipset an I believe it will still be a good set for awhile specially if I can find a good deal on a 1080 somewhere ill be in a better position then with the ryzen 7 an a much better position then the ryzen 5. 7th place for i7 7700k/ 34th for rysen 5, an 24th for the ryzen 7....
 
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No what I'm saying is buy the best you can buy for your budget. Don't buy and then keep buying. Because when you buy the best you can get for your budget and you're satisfied with everything you have, there will be no reason to upgrade for at least a couple of years. But if you buy and you're constantly buying new upgrades, that is something that I don't advise. For instance, don't buy a GPU with the intention of buying a new one in less than a year. Because then you're buying the same part twice and the other part will go unused. That's something I never advise.
 
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