How much of a performance loss will there be without the video drivers?

[PCNoobXCVII]

I have a new MSI R9 270x and for some reason it's rejecting the video drivers but accepting the rest. So exactly how much performance will I lose without the video drivers if I try to game on it?

 

[chicken4thewin]

The difference may not be enough to make games unplayable, but they will DEFINITELY be noticeable.

 

[cburke82]

Have you tried older drivers? Dont know why the install would not work. Did you switch from a Nvidia card?

 

[Suztera]

What do you mean it is rejecting the drivers? Where did you get the drivers? Did you installed a previous drivers before?

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

The difference may not be enough to make games unplayable, but they will DEFINITELY be noticeable.

How noticeable? Like half the frame rate I would usually get noticeable or like 10% loss? Because I'm fine with the 10% if I can't figure out how to make the thing accept the drivers.

 

[chicken4thewin]

At the most, I'd say 15%, but only if the drivers are a year behind.

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

Have you tried older drivers? Dont know why the install would not work. Did you switch from a Nvidia card?

No, I haven't tried the old drivers. I planned on trying that as soon as it got back from newegg as they denied my RMA. And no I didn't switch from an Nvidia.

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

What do you mean it is rejecting the drivers? Where did you get the drivers? Did you installed a previous drivers before?

I mean when I attempt to install the drivers the screen goes a greenish black color and becomes unresponsive to the point I have to turn off my computer and none of the changes save. I got the drivers from AMD's site and the drivers worked fine for 6 days at which point it just randomly stopped working.

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

At the most, I'd say 15%, but only if the drivers are a year behind.

What if drivers weren't installed at all (or at least by my doing)?

 

[chicken4thewin]

You will need to install drivers at some point, or some programs will refuse to regognise that you have a GPU at all.

 

[Suztera]

What do you mean it is rejecting the drivers? Where did you get the drivers? Did you installed a previous drivers before?

I mean when I attempt to install the drivers the screen goes a greenish black color and becomes unresponsive to the point I have to turn off my computer and none of the changes save. I got the drivers from AMD's site and the drivers worked fine for 6 days at which point it just randomly stopped working.

Try out Display Driver Uninstaller to uninstall your drivers.
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_uninstaller_download.html
I have always used this and had no problems.


Make sure you have Windows updated.
Redownload the 14.4 drivers and reinstall. When it asks you what to install, choose custom and install the drivers but you can leave out the extra such as SATA, AHCI etc..
You shouldn't need to use the drivers that are on the CD. Only test it if the 14.4 drivers still don't work.

Also download MSI afterburner to monitor the temps. If it is higher than room temperature at idle then return the card for another.

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

You will need to install drivers at some point, or some programs will refuse to regognise that you have a GPU at all.

Okay, I just hope the drivers on the disk will work, I'll try that as soon as I get it back. Hopefully if those do work I can just upgrade them to the newest drivers.

 

[chicken4thewin]

If it doesn't work go to MyTechGuys or some other company to do it for you.

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

What do you mean it is rejecting the drivers? Where did you get the drivers? Did you installed a previous drivers before?

I mean when I attempt to install the drivers the screen goes a greenish black color and becomes unresponsive to the point I have to turn off my computer and none of the changes save. I got the drivers from AMD's site and the drivers worked fine for 6 days at which point it just randomly stopped working.

Try out Display Driver Uninstaller to uninstall your drivers.
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/display_driver_uninstaller_download.html
I have always used this and had no problems.
Redownload the 14.4 drivers and reinstall. When it asks you what to install, choose custom and install the drivers but you can leave out the extra such as SATA, AHCI etc..

I already tried uninstalling the drivers, I'll do it again as soon as I can, but as far as the rest of the driver they installed perfectly it's only when it got to the video drivers that this happened. And that was after the drivers had worked perfectly for almost a week.

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

If it doesn't work go to MyTechGuys or some other company to do it for you.

I would assume that would involve sending off the graphics card again?

 

[chicken4thewin]

No. If you have a TechSup company in town, go to them.

 

[Suztera]

If it doesn't work go to MyTechGuys or some other company to do it for you.

I would assume that would involve sending off the graphics card again?

I would not trust anyone that remotely controls my pc even if they prove they are certified and certainly not for a price.

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

No. If you have a TechSup company in town, go to them.

I don't think I do but I'll go looking around if worst comes to worst.

 

[cburke82]

Sounds like something else is wrong bad card? If you had the new drivers installed and the card stopped working thats the card. Possible the drivers wont install because the card is bad. Why did newegg decline to RMA the card?

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

If it doesn't work go to MyTechGuys or some other company to do it for you.

I would assume that would involve sending off the graphics card again?

I would not trust anyone that remotely controls my pc even if they prove they are certified and certainly not for a price.

Sounds like something else is wrong bad card? If you had the new drivers installed and the card stopped working thats the card. Possible the drivers wont install because the card is bad. Why did newegg decline to RMA the card?

They said the serial number was missing, but I didn't remove anything from the card. As for the drivers I think they went through an automatic update and then went wrong. I don't actually know that but I remember it telling me to update and me just clicking "remind me later."

 

[cburke82]

If you have the spare cash buy o new one from a store and return the old one. I dont know why Newegg cant take the card back but they should if its bad.

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

If you have the spare cash buy o new one from a store and return the old one. I dont know why Newegg cant take the card back but they should if its bad.

I currently don't have the spare money. And as for why removal of the serial number voids the warranty, although I didn't remove it so I'm not exactly sure why I have to suffer. It may have fallen off at some point in the installation or during shipping, but I didn't remove it myself.

 

[chicken4thewin]

until you have the money, use the GPU sans drivers.

 

[PCNoobXCVII]

until you have the money, use the GPU sans drivers.

Sans drivers? Sorry for my lack of knowledge but what are sans drivers? Are they just the stock drivers?

 

[cburke82]

until you have the money, use the GPU sans drivers.

Sans drivers? Sorry for my lack of knowledge but what are sans drivers? Are they just the stock drivers?

Meaning "without drivers"