How much would an fx-8350 bottleneck a gtx 1080

[Speezquick]

So im thinking about just getting a gtx 1080 now and upgrading my fx 8350 and 8gb of ram later, but will the bottleneck be that severe that there will be no reason to upgrade and can i still push 1440p 60fps max settings with fx 8350 and 1080? And right now i have an r9 290 and can swap to gtx 970 whenever because my brother is borrowing it.

 

[geofelt]

Depends on the games you play.
If you play fast action shooters, buy the GTX1080 and see how you do.

Here is one test for now:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

 

[Speezquick]

Depends on the games you play.
If you play fast action shooters, buy the GTX1080 and see how you do.

Here is one test for now:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

How much should i lower the resolution and graphics settings?

 

[Speezquick]

Depends on the games you play.
If you play fast action shooters, buy the GTX1080 and see how you do.

Here is one test for now:
Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

And would it be worth while to wait for VEGA?

 

[geofelt]

I do not know what resolution and settings you are using now.
Reduce either or both a bit and test.
If you see little difference, you are likely cpu limited.
FX chips have low single thread performance, and that is what most games need most.
Multiplayer is the most noticeable exception.

As to VEGA, who knows; either price or performance.
Likely, you are going to need a cpu replacement long before you need a high performing graphics card.
Then, there is no guarantee that vega will outperform nvidia anyway.

You might also want to test how important many threads is to your games.

Experiment with removing one or more cores. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.
Most games can only use 2-3 threads effectively.

Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilizations.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.

 

[Speezquick]

I do not know what resolution and settings you are using now.
Reduce either or both a bit and test.
If you see little difference, you are likely cpu limited.
FX chips have low single thread performance, and that is what most games need most.
Multiplayer is the most noticeable exception.

As to VEGA, who knows; either price or performance.
Likely, you are going to need a cpu replacement long before you need a high performing graphics card.
Then, there is no guarantee that vega will outperform nvidia anyway.

You might also want to test how important many threads is to your games.

Experiment with removing one or more cores. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.
Most games can only use 2-3 threads effectively.

Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilizations.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.

I tested GTA 5 with 720p and there was literally no difference in fps would that mean if i upgraded to a 1080 the performance wouldnt increase by more then maybe a couple of frames?

 

[geofelt]

I do not know what resolution and settings you are using now.
Reduce either or both a bit and test.
If you see little difference, you are likely cpu limited.
FX chips have low single thread performance, and that is what most games need most.
Multiplayer is the most noticeable exception.

As to VEGA, who knows; either price or performance.
Likely, you are going to need a cpu replacement long before you need a high performing graphics card.
Then, there is no guarantee that vega will outperform nvidia anyway.

You might also want to test how important many threads is to your games.

Experiment with removing one or more cores. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.
Most games can only use 2-3 threads effectively.

Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilizations.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.

I tested GTA 5 with 720p and there was literally no difference in fps would that mean if i upgraded to a 1080 the performance wouldnt increase by more then maybe a couple of frames?

Exactly; your game is cpu limited.

You would be better off spending your budget on a cpu(and motherboard and ram) upgrade.
I would look to Kaby lake I5-7600K if you can.

The multithreading test will tell you how useful more than 4 threads might be.

 

[Speezquick]

I do not know what resolution and settings you are using now.
Reduce either or both a bit and test.
If you see little difference, you are likely cpu limited.
FX chips have low single thread performance, and that is what most games need most.
Multiplayer is the most noticeable exception.

As to VEGA, who knows; either price or performance.
Likely, you are going to need a cpu replacement long before you need a high performing graphics card.
Then, there is no guarantee that vega will outperform nvidia anyway.

You might also want to test how important many threads is to your games.

Experiment with removing one or more cores. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.
Most games can only use 2-3 threads effectively.

Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilizations.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.

I tested GTA 5 with 720p and there was literally no difference in fps would that mean if i upgraded to a 1080 the performance wouldnt increase by more then maybe a couple of frames?

Exactly; your game is cpu limited.

You would be better off spending your budget on a cpu(and motherboard and ram) upgrade.
I would look to Kaby lake I5-7600K if you can.

The multithreading test will tell you how useful more than 4 threads might be.

Ok so i will upgrade to an i5-7600k instead but will that bottleneck the gtx 1080 and will it increase my gaming performance?

 

[geofelt]

I do not know what resolution and settings you are using now.
Reduce either or both a bit and test.
If you see little difference, you are likely cpu limited.
FX chips have low single thread performance, and that is what most games need most.
Multiplayer is the most noticeable exception.

As to VEGA, who knows; either price or performance.
Likely, you are going to need a cpu replacement long before you need a high performing graphics card.
Then, there is no guarantee that vega will outperform nvidia anyway.

You might also want to test how important many threads is to your games.

Experiment with removing one or more cores. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.
Most games can only use 2-3 threads effectively.

Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilizations.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.

I tested GTA 5 with 720p and there was literally no difference in fps would that mean if i upgraded to a 1080 the performance wouldnt increase by more then maybe a couple of frames?

Exactly; your game is cpu limited.

You would be better off spending your budget on a cpu(and motherboard and ram) upgrade.
I would look to Kaby lake I5-7600K if you can.

The multithreading test will tell you how useful more than 4 threads might be.

Ok so i will upgrade to an i5-7600k instead but will that bottleneck the gtx 1080 and will it increase my gaming performance?

I5-7600K with a conservative OC is as good as it gets for gaming today. It will work well with any graphics card you care to install. Only the I7-7700K is marginally better.

 

[Speezquick]

I do not know what resolution and settings you are using now.
Reduce either or both a bit and test.
If you see little difference, you are likely cpu limited.
FX chips have low single thread performance, and that is what most games need most.
Multiplayer is the most noticeable exception.

As to VEGA, who knows; either price or performance.
Likely, you are going to need a cpu replacement long before you need a high performing graphics card.
Then, there is no guarantee that vega will outperform nvidia anyway.

You might also want to test how important many threads is to your games.

Experiment with removing one or more cores. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option.
You will need to reboot for the change to take effect. Set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many threads.
If you see little difference, your game does not need all the threads you have.
Most games can only use 2-3 threads effectively.

Be careful how you interpret task manager cpu utilizations.
Windows will spread the activity of a single thread over all available threads.
So, if you had a game that was single threaded and cpu bound, it would show up on a quad core processor as 25%
utilization across all 4 threads.
leading you to think your bottleneck was elsewhere.

I tested GTA 5 with 720p and there was literally no difference in fps would that mean if i upgraded to a 1080 the performance wouldnt increase by more then maybe a couple of frames?

Exactly; your game is cpu limited.

You would be better off spending your budget on a cpu(and motherboard and ram) upgrade.
I would look to Kaby lake I5-7600K if you can.

The multithreading test will tell you how useful more than 4 threads might be.

Ok so i will upgrade to an i5-7600k instead but will that bottleneck the gtx 1080 and will it increase my gaming performance?

I5-7600K with a conservative OC is as good as it gets for gaming today. It will work well with any graphics card you care to install. Only the I7-7700K is marginally better.

Would the r7 1700 be worth the extra (getting it a little cheaper then usual) if u take into consideration future games optimising for more cores etc etc...