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I made an earlier thread to see whether a 1k computer from ironside was worth it. I then decided to gather components separately to weigh cost. I am wondering if these components would be compatible with each other?

Power Supply
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014W3EAX8

OS
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01019T6O0

Optical Drive
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0033Z2BAQ

Cooling fan
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PJSFR7Y

Hard Drive
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013QFRS2S

CPU
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MRRPPQS

Mobo
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NAGY084

Ram
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0134EW7G8

GPU
GTX 970 4GB

It ends up being 721.16 before tax. 782.10 after tax. Assuming no shipping cost.

If they are, how do I find a case to fit them all in properly? This would be completely replacing everything I have right now and I would be using the 970 in the new rig.

It is about a $320 savings minus the case and anything else I'm forgetting.
The goal is still to play 1080p videos smoothly and game at 45+ fps.
If there is anything anyone would change to reduce cost/improve performance, I'm all ears.
 
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madmatt30
Win 10 OEM is the retail mate , there are no cons at all with regards to this.

Regarding builds.
The reason I said its wasteful is that generally a 7600k is bought for it an overclocking ability & you need to supply your own cooler as it doesn't come with one.
Pairing it nearly a b250 board is fine but those boards do not support overclocking meaning you've spent unnecessarily .
If you're pairing it with a z270 series board for future overclocking it makes more sense.

The b250 chipset only supports up to 2400mhz ram also (you can use faster ram but it will down clock to 2400) , meaning there is no point overspending .

With a b250 board I'd go 2400 ram (it is cheaper) , a locked i5 7500 or 7600 , dump the aftermarket cooler & get a...
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Hi- A couple things to consider: Do you need to use Amazon for all parts? You can do better if you
use pcpartpicker. You could prob save enough to upgrade your GPU to a gtx 1060 or 1070.

Cases are generally a very personal choice because of looks. How much do you want to spend on a case?
Then look at mid tower models in your price range
An ATX mid-tower will accomodate all your current parts (you need to check the length of the gtx 970 tho) and
permit decent air flow, especially if you change your PSU selection above n get a good quality 550 or 650 modular model.

Oh, I forgot to add, do not use a 5400rpm hdd as your main drive. If you cannot use an SSD+hdd, then be
sure your hdd is at least 7200rpm.


Do you already own the gtx 970?



 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 74.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($24.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z270P-D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($107.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA Premier SP550 240GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($80.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Zalman ZM-Z9 NEO BK ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $762.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-18 10:39 EDT-0400
 
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Hi again - Trying to keep with general specs, I came up with this:

Plz take a look:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/psVMgL

Incl Win 10 @ $88.58, you can get for $60 at Amazon if you want to get approved for their credit card, which I
assume you wouldn't.
 
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I kind of only know of amazon and newegg as good retailers for pc components. I have amazon prime so when you factor in shipping, amazon is the better deal for quite a few parts.

I see that both solutions use pcpartpicker. What is that exactly? It is a price aggregator or something?

Yes, I already own the GTX 970.

Also, I'm not sure about using an oem for the OS... I heard that you can't install updates? or did I mishear that?
 
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My knowledge on cooling systems and mobos is nonexistent.
I was told that for the i5 7600 or 7600k, I need a skylake.
A b250 is a skylake apparently so I did a search for that.

As for the cooler, my cluelessness on that is... pitiful. If you asked me what to consider when getting a decent cooler, I would say, something that looks fancy?

haha...

Also, don't I need at least 600w for the gpu and everything else to be sufficiently cooled? 550w seems barely enough to be stable?
 
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Sorry for the triple post. The first 2 are responses, the 3rd is my thank you post.
I would like to select both your responses as the answer since they are both awesome lists.
My final build will most likely be one of the two.
 
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Win 10 OEM is the retail mate , there are no cons at all with regards to this.

Regarding builds.
The reason I said its wasteful is that generally a 7600k is bought for it an overclocking ability & you need to supply your own cooler as it doesn't come with one.
Pairing it nearly a b250 board is fine but those boards do not support overclocking meaning you've spent unnecessarily .
If you're pairing it with a z270 series board for future overclocking it makes more sense.

The b250 chipset only supports up to 2400mhz ram also (you can use faster ram but it will down clock to 2400) , meaning there is no point overspending .

With a b250 board I'd go 2400 ram (it is cheaper) , a locked i5 7500 or 7600 , dump the aftermarket cooler & get a ssd into the budget.

Or if you want to go with a k series chip , then get a z270 board, faster ram & no ssd.

With a 7500 you can get an ssd in for less budget than you're currently sitting at.
Barely any difference performance wise from a stock 7600k

550w is more than enough for those components , there's a full 200w clear overhead there.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B250 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($83.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX Fury 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($80.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Toshiba 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Zalman R1 ATX Mid Tower Case ($47.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Other: gtx 970 (Purchased)
Total: $734.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-19 02:05 EDT-0400
 
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http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7500/3885vs3648

according to this, i5-7600k is about 20% better performance wise than i5-7500.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920/3885vs1981
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7500-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920/3648vs1981

according to this, i5-7600k gives about 40% more performance compared to i5-7500 when upgrading from i7-920.

That was my motivation for going with the i5-7600k

I had no idea that k meant unlocked.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-7600-vs-Intel-Core-i7-920/3890vs1981

if dropping down to a i5-7600, it's still 20% better performance than a i5-7500.
I'm not sure how much stock to put into these benchmarks.

Also, what kind of situations would 3000mhz of ram be more useful than 2400mhz?
I think I'm at 1333 with my DDR3 ram and it's served me pretty well?
I've only run into issues with cpu heavy tasks.

With the ram stick I have, going down to 2400mhz is a few bucks saved.

And what do you mean by supply your own cooler? I thought the cooler was for the graphics card? I know there's already a fan on the gpu, but isn't the fan on the back of the case meant to air everything out?

Also, why is a SSD necessary? They are so expensive in my opinion. Also, I heard they die really quickly and degrade quickly as welll? Also, they have a small size in general so if I install a lot of games, it defeats the purpose of the SSD since I will have to install it on the non-SSD?

My regular HDD has been serving me fine for 9 years. It's just really old now which is the primary reason pc is slow.
 
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7600k stock vs 7500 - 10% max under normal use , you may see 15% under synthetic benchmarking
7600 non k vs 7500 - less than 10% .

Their is no way on this planet a 7600k+ a $40 cooler totalling $270 is worth the extra vs a 7500 (which comes with a cooler) for $70 less for then performance increase you'll get.

The core performance of the 7500 is just good enough for any use out there.
The only way its going to come unstuck in the future is because of the 4 core 4 thread count (the same as the 7600 or 7600k)

My advice to you now is if you're not happy going with the i5 7500 then rather than a 7600k & a cooler at $30-40 is just to spend the extra & buy an i7 7700 instead.
Because then you're straight out covered on core speed performance & on thread count for the future .

Regarding the coolers mentioned (the gammaxx I recommended & the cryorig h7 the other guy did)
These are for the CPU - the k series Intel chips do not come with a cpu cooler (heatsink & fan) in the box , the non k series chips however do.

Regarding ssd - maybe back in 2010 some points regarding reliability, degradation & lifespan were true - not anymore though at all.
You're likely to get a 15-20 year lifespan from a modern ssd , there are no moving parts , no drive noise .once you've used an ssd in a build its hard to recommend a build without one for operating system & general app usage & the secondary 2tb drive just for game installs.

Think sub 5 second boot times, instant app opening , instant webpage loading etc etc , absolutely worth a $70-80 outlay unless you are seriously budget limited mate.
Its the difference between a good system & a great system.
A 240gb ssd + a traditional platter based secondary drive is how every system should be set up IMO.
 
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Or go with a ryzen & just be done with it,6 cores /12 threads ,single core performance on a par with the 7500 & imo just far far more future proof at the end of the day.

Its a fledgeling platform ,it has a few teething problems but is essentially on price to performance basis a complete intel i5 killer imo.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($218.19 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Viper Elite 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive ($99.89 @ OutletPC)
Case: Zalman ZM-Z9 NEO WH ATX Mid Tower Case ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.98 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.98 @ NCIX US)
Total: $750.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-19 13:37 EDT-0400
 
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I think I'll go with your previous recommendation of the i7. $100 extra doesn't seem like a deal breaker to me.
Also, I've heard too many horror stories with devs/pubs/amd to feel safe with that brand for my gaming needs.
I trust intel and I've never had an issue unless it had bad cpu optimization in general.

Thank you for your help, madmatt30!
I really appreciate it.
 
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