How to get ethernet upstairs

[mohajams050]

I am trying to get ethernet upstairs, while modem/router combo is downstairs. I have tried using powerline but the apartment I rent is pretty old, so it significantly hinders performance (50 mbps with a 300mbs plan). I have also tried mesh wifi with ethernet jacks at the bottom but those didn't work either. Finally I uprgaded my speeds to gigabit, and purchased a new router because I thought I could use it without it being connected to the modem, and conncect it to my PC and PS4. Thanks in advance for your answers.
-Update: I have heard of wireless brising with routers, is this a viable solution to my problem?

 

[bill001g]

You might as well just directly use the wifi if you plan any use. A device that take wifi in and ethernet out still will have the same wifi in the path as you r end device. It would only make sense if the end device does not support wifi.

Still I don't think it is going to work for you. A mesh system is just a fancy version of the client-bridge you would need. If the mesh did not work likely the bridge will not either.

Powerline is the recommended method. If you were not using av2 based technology it will limit your speed. Still you will get nowhere near 300mbps on any powerline unless you are very lucky.

The only remain option is called moca. You would need tv coax available on both end.

I am assuming since this is a rental running a actual cable is not a option.

 

[mohajams050]

You might as well just directly use the wifi if you plan any use. A device that take wifi in and ethernet out still will have the same wifi in the path as you r end device. It would only make sense if the end device does not support wifi.

Still I don't think it is going to work for you. A mesh system is just a fancy version of the client-bridge you would need. If the mesh did not work likely the bridge will not either.

Powerline is the recommended method. If you were not using av2 based technology it will limit your speed. Still you will get nowhere near 300mbps on any powerline unless you are very lucky.

The only remain option is called moca. You would need tv coax available on both end.

I am assuming since this is a rental running a actual cable is not a option.

Basically, the pc I use dosen't have a wifi card, I am currenlty using an 300mbps adapter. Also, my ps4 is basically unusable on wifi so I'm not sure what to do. I could install a PCIE wifi card but what would I do for my playstation?

 

[jsmithepa]

When I bought my own house, that's when I sensed my life was going to change 😀

 

[mohajams050]

When I bought my own house, that's when I sensed my life was going to change 😀

Not possible conidering I'm a high school student lol

 

[mohajams050]

You might as well just directly use the wifi if you plan any use. A device that take wifi in and ethernet out still will have the same wifi in the path as you r end device. It would only make sense if the end device does not support wifi.

Still I don't think it is going to work for you. A mesh system is just a fancy version of the client-bridge you would need. If the mesh did not work likely the bridge will not either.

Powerline is the recommended method. If you were not using av2 based technology it will limit your speed. Still you will get nowhere near 300mbps on any powerline unless you are very lucky.
So basically I should return my router, and my only option is getting better powerline adapters or using wifi

The only remain option is called moca. You would need tv coax available on both end.

I am assuming since this is a rental running a actual cable is not a option.

So basically wifi or better powerline are my only remaining options. How much speed should I expect from a better powerline kit with a gigabit connection?

 

[Solandri]

Well, the other option is VDSL2, which will give you 200/100 Mbps asymmetric. But that's like a $250 solution.

If both your routers support 5 GHz WiFi, and the non-modem one supports bridged client mode (or can be updated to DD-WRT or OpenWRT), I'd try that. Use a WiFi app on your phone to scan your apartment and see which 5 GHz channels are in use. Put the bridge on a different channel. Aim the antennas so they're parallel to each other (so for upstairs/downstairs, you'll want the antennas pointed sideways). That should get you at least 100 Mbps, and probably 200-300 Mbps.

If the second router doesn't support bridged client mode, you can get a Ubiquiti Nanostation. Those are about $50 and support bridged client mode (as well as a wireless WAN router mode), and have a directional antenna so interference will be less of a problem. The 2.4 GHz models will only get you about 110 Mbps max, but the 5 GHz models should be able to get you 300 Mbps+. Assuming of course that your modem/router supports 5 GHz. Their drawback is that you only get a single LAN port - you'll need a switch if you wish to share the Ethernet connection with multiple devices.

That said, powerline will not be subject to interference if someone else in your apartment building decides to put a 5 GHz hotspot on the same channel.

You can also run Ethernet cables through heating/ventilation ducts. The "traditional" method is to tie it to a cat and let the cat run through the ducts while the owner calls it from the vent where you want the cable to come out. But the cat lovers will hate you for it. (Edit: This is a joke. Don't try it for real. The cat will make a really bad stink as it decomposes if it gets stuck in there.)

 

[mohajams050]

Well, the other option is VDSL2, which will give you 200/100 Mbps asymmetric. But that's like a $250 solution.

If both your routers support 5 GHz WiFi, and the non-modem one supports bridged client mode (or can be updated to DD-WRT or OpenWRT), I'd try that. Use a WiFi app on your phone to scan your apartment and see which 5 GHz channels are in use. Put the bridge on a different channel. Aim the antennas so they're parallel to each other (so for upstairs/downstairs, you'll want the antennas pointed sideways). That should get you at least 100 Mbps, and probably 200-300 Mbps.

If the second router doesn't support bridged client mode, you can get a Ubiquiti Nanostation. Those are about $50 and support bridged client mode (as well as a wireless WAN router mode), and have a directional antenna so interference will be less of a problem. The 2.4 GHz models will only get you about 110 Mbps max, but the 5 GHz models should be able to get you 300 Mbps+. Assuming of course that your modem/router supports 5 GHz. Their drawback is that you only get a single LAN port - you'll need a switch if you wish to share the Ethernet connection with multiple devices.

That said, powerline will not be subject to interference if someone else in your apartment building decides to put a 5 GHz hotspot on the same channel.

You can also run Ethernet cables through heating/ventilation ducts. The "traditional" method is to tie it to a cat and let the cat run through the ducts while the owner calls it from the vent where you want the cable to come out. But the cat lovers will hate you for it. (Edit: This is a joke. Don't try it for real. The cat will make a really bad stink as it decomposes if it gets stuck in there.)

Powerline is worse than my mesh system (Bell Canada) so I think I mightg have to stick with those and just stomach the 60% performance loss on a good day. 300 mbps is good for me, but I just don't like the idea of losing free performance. But thanks to everyone who replied trying to help me with my problem.