how to have lowest cpu settings in msi click 4 bios

[Nik_5_]

My cpu is a athlon x4 860k and i have for the time ebing the stock cooler which makes the temperature 70-100 degrees. I have increased the fan speed to max but my computer keeps crashing which inassume From the high temperature. My mother board is a MSI A68hm Grenade.

 

[anotherdrew]

I do think your computer is crashing because of the heat, but the stock cooler should be able to keep that CPU below 80, so I think something else is going on.

I assume you just put this computer together and this is not a computer that has been working fine and now doesn't.
1. Is the cooler on tight? It should be on tight enough that it does not move.
2. Did you remove the thermal paste that was on the cooler?
3. Is the cooler fan plugged into CPU fan header? You say fan speed is on Max ... is it loud?
4. Is your case letting in plenty of fresh air? Does it still crash with the lid removed?

If it is not one of those things, then something else is going on.

As per your question ... it is possible to underclock a processor. You would go into BIOS, to to OC Menu, and change "Adjust CPU Ratio" until the the "Adjusted CPU Frequency" was what you want (3000 Maybe?). While this is possible, it should not be required to keep the computer from crashing.

 

[Karadjgne]

As comparatively slow as that Athlon is, trying to downclock to lower temps is a fools game. The cpu will only have to work harder to keep up with demand, which is already pretty high from temps seen.
Your best bet is to purchase a decent budget cooler. A cryorig m9a would be a good match and will have no issues. At $20 it's pretty unbeatable value.

Stock coolers are rated for nominal usage, running software at the time of release. As old as the Athlon is getting, technologically-wise, it's being punished by software that's more intense, more complicated, more demanding and that includes such things as the OS.

 

[Nik_5_]

Yes it is a new build im.working on i habe done everything you have said my computer case is big and there is a good amount of airflow from the way in and out plus my room right now is cold. My adjust cpu frequency is locked off

 

[Nik_5_]

I messed around with my bios and now its not crashing but is staying on 110 degree (i a using a software called cpuid hwmonitor same company as cpu-z)

 

[Karadjgne]

That's way too hot, well into cpu damaging heat. Official core temp (afaik) for those APU's is closer to 62°C maxed, which translates out to about 80°ish by the time you see it in software.

Thing is, it's also not easily verifyable. All those amd cpus/APU's back then had temp issues, as in nobody could reliably get a reliable temp reading since amd in their infinite wisdom did not put thermal sensors on the cores, the way Intel does. So temps are done by algorithms instead. The single most accurate software is AMD Overdrive, but it works backwards sorta, it's a thermal margin. It'll tell you how much temp you have got left to play with. So a tm of 40's is great, 30's is normal, 20's is getting close and if the margin is 10 or less, you have cooling issues. If you see 0 or negative numbers, you are into damaging heat and really have an issue.

 

[anotherdrew]

Before you give up on the motherboard, try a CMOS reset (page 23 of the online manual). You can also try unplugging your PSU and pulling the battery (coin shaped near PCIE2) for 5 minutes, although this should just do the same thing as a CMOS reset. Fingers crossed.

 

[Nik_5_]

Ok it now works again but crashes still. BIOS says its at 30-45 degrees cpu and motherboard is 20 degrees... But still crashes when trying to play any games whilst application says im running at 100 degrees cpu temp... This is so confusing.

 

[Mousemonkey]

@Nik_5_, watch your language.

 

[anotherdrew]

Ok it now works again but crashes still. BIOS says its at 30-45 degrees cpu and motherboard is 20 degrees... But still crashes when trying to play any games whilst application says im running at 100 degrees cpu temp... This is so confusing.

With such a large discrepancy between the temperature BIOS reports and HWmontior, I would try another monitoring software. Your MB came with MSI command center. HWinfo is also popular.

It's possible you were getting a bad reading and this is not a temperature issue, but instead something to do with the memory, PSU, or ??

 

[Karadjgne]

Use AMD Overdrive, its basically written specifically to monitor AMD Cpus/Apus. If HWMonitor is right, then your thermal margin will be close to 0, if Bios is right, then your thermal margin will be closer to 40. Since you can get into Windows, check the Windows Event Viewer, look for the red flagged critical errors, they may point in the direction of just why you are crashing

 

[Nik_5_]

So i usd amd overdrive and each core temperature is 15-25 degrees. CPU not the issue however i realised my computer does not boot is i enable cpu turbo boost... That maybe fine. My PSU is 500w and my RAM is 12gb alltogether, 1 stick is 4gb and the othe ris 8gb but they run in different frequencies so when innthe bios i make it both 800mhz same issue so i might be able to rule out the RAM and i did try with 1 stick and then the other, no difference my motherboard still crashes

 

[anotherdrew]

As Karadjgne noted, OverDrvie reports thermal margin. This is the difference between the current temperature and the max temperature allowed. Basically, if you get to 0 (or close to 0) you will have a problem. This number should be fairly large at idle (40-50?) and much smaller under load.

RAM with different frequencies can be an issue, but since the computer still crashed with just one stick, it might not the current issue.

A quality 500 Watt PSU should be enough for this computer, depending on the GPU you have installed. Do you have specs on your GPU and PSU?

It was my understanding that the computer crashes under load only ... is this correct?

 

[Nik_5_]

Idk what you mean by under load, i thought that my cpu was overheating so i wanted to underclock it to cool it down but thats not the case no more, gpu is asus nvidia gt 730 silent and psu is a cit pemtium model 5000

 

[anotherdrew]

under load means the CPU/System is working hard, like when your playing a game or something. Idle is when your computer is not doing anything.

 

[Nik_5_]

Well it crashes whilst updating windos updates, the task manager is always kept onand everything is under 40% cpu max is 25% and ram is always using only 2gb out of 12gb

 

[Nik_5_]

I ran a windows memory test and no issue have been found, cpu temperature max hits 55 degree. The computer temp is max 30 degrees... i dont know what to try anymore

 

[anotherdrew]

So, this all started thinking the CPU was running too hot. 55C max is fine and should not be an issue. Memory checks out. The next possibility is power issues. Do you have access to another power supply or a store with a generous return policy?

When you say crash ... are we talking about blue screen, freeze, or restart? All can be due to hardware or software, but blue screen and freeze point lean toward software and restart leans toward hardware.

 

[Nik_5_]

Crash as in no warning no blue screen, it turns of and reboots sometimes disables my keyboard, and my hard drive has been formated and ive installed a new windows on it and tested it with two different hard drive, right now i am currently going to try and install linux on it to check if its just the operating system then I will check the psu however i have only get a 280w psu spare to test it on