Question How to improve my 5G network connection?

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Im currently running a connecting from a Chateau 5G R16 (without antenas, the network provider didnt provide any) via ethernet cable to a HUAWEI WA8021v5 thats wired to my pc, internets fine during work hours or late at night but when its 7-11pm the internet drops to 20mbps with super high upload and dowload latency (which could be improved during the day as well) internet becomes unusable with more than 3-4 devices on the network and even voice connection drops to garbage at times, games become unplayable.

View: https://imgur.com/a/Q4Sj9wf
this at 2am with 2 devices on, when I run speedtest at peak hours the download latency goes up to 200-400 average, upload 400-600

Im looking at an external Iskra 5G antena to boost the signal, would that be enough to reduce the random network spikes (upgrade down/up latency) and boost the speed for it be stable enough to actually game at ay time of the day and have other people connected to the internet? There are other 5G operators in my area which might actualy might have better covarage according to the maps but the speeds they offer don't seem to be any higher than I already am getting.
 
To start with using antenna on cellular device is illegal in most countries. These run on licensed frequencies that have very strict rules on power output. This gets very messy since it is the phone company that has the license and not you. They are responsible for any device connected to their network. In the USA it is very much in the grey area. The law says you can use external antenna as long as it approved by the carrier. Problem is even if they tell you that you can use them they will never give you the paper work. If you would interfere with some other carrier and the FCC finds out your carrier will of course deny they gave you permission. This is one of those things it is not just a fine you can go to jail. What really happens is you spend lots of money for a lawyer so you get basically a warning but you likely spend many thousands of dollars for the lawyer.

BUT it likely doesn't matter. If it works fine in the middle of the night it is not signal levels since you get very good number.

The problem is not direct interference with other clients. Unlike wifi with cellular the tower controls your device and it can only transmit when it is given permission. This prevents 2 devices from transmitting at the same time.

The problem is more a capacity issue. There are too many people using the same resources on the tower. Both the radio bandwidth off the cell tower as well as the cell towers connection to the rest of the network. It can also be that the ISP favors some kinds of traffic over others. I know when you read the fine print for many 5g home internet connection they will say in times of congestion other traffic may be prioritized over yours. Generally they favor cell phone traffic over home internet.

You in general can't fix this. The ISP have massively oversold 5g connections. If you have no wired option starlink is going to perform better than 5g in a lot of cases.
 
To start with using antenna on cellular device is illegal in most countries. These run on licensed frequencies that have very strict rules on power output. This gets very messy since it is the phone company that has the license and not you. They are responsible for any device connected to their network. In the USA it is very much in the grey area. The law says you can use external antenna as long as it approved by the carrier. Problem is even if they tell you that you can use them they will never give you the paper work. If you would interfere with some other carrier and the FCC finds out your carrier will of course deny they gave you permission. This is one of those things it is not just a fine you can go to jail. What really happens is you spend lots of money for a lawyer so you get basically a warning but you likely spend many thousands of dollars for the lawyer.

BUT it likely doesn't matter. If it works fine in the middle of the night it is not signal levels since you get very good number.

The problem is not direct interference with other clients. Unlike wifi with cellular the tower controls your device and it can only transmit when it is given permission. This prevents 2 devices from transmitting at the same time.

The problem is more a capacity issue. There are too many people using the same resources on the tower. Both the radio bandwidth off the cell tower as well as the cell towers connection to the rest of the network. It can also be that the ISP favors some kinds of traffic over others. I know when you read the fine print for many 5g home internet connection they will say in times of congestion other traffic may be prioritized over yours. Generally they favor cell phone traffic over home internet.

You in general can't fix this. The ISP have massively oversold 5g connections. If you have no wired option starlink is going to perform better than 5g in a lot of cases.
EDIT - So I seem to have found an already existing coaxial cable, is that just for an already existing external antena or could that be an actual wired connection available to my house? However I've called all the network providers in my area and none of them provide wired network here

Hey boss, thanks for the reply, so I dug a bit deeper and running and installing an external antena like an Iskra Tela AV-2845G to boost the signal to my wifi router shouldn't be an issue, Im from Europe and the company assured to me thats fine, but before I do indeed go trough with it do you think that it would be enough to make the signal usable during peak hours?
 
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Depends on the type of coax. Could be for a tv antenna.

You have to be very careful about the cable you use. You can lose more signal in the cable that the antenna adds. When you are talking about the microwave frequencies you get massive loss per foot.

For some reason you think you have a lack of signal level. Because it works good at night that means there is good signal strength between the tower and the router. Time of day does not affect the signal level it is the same antenna and radios on the times it works good and times it does not. Actual signal level issues would show random packet loss no matter the time.

Now it is highly likely it is other people using the same radio tower that is causing the problem.

BUT key here to understand it is not the radio signal itself that has the problem. Its not like wifi where other people transmitting interfere with your signal. With mobile broadband the tower controls when people devices are allowed to transit this prevent them from interfering.

Your problem is not likely fixable by you. The ISP likely does not have enough capacity so when more people use the service everyone get slower less bandwidth.

Your only actual option is to try another ISP if that is possible
 
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