[SOLVED] How to update chipset 3950X

[Hvideo]

Hi guys, really basic question here but I have been googling to no avail..

I have a 3950x, I want to install/update chipset drivers (no idea what I have at the moment or how to check) I was directed here: https://www.amd.com/en/support/cpu/...-ryzen-9-desktop-processors/amd-ryzen-9-3950x

Expecting a chipset .exe, instead it just has the Ryzen Master software which doesn't seem to have an 'update chipset' option inside it. What am I missing?

Thanks in advance

 

[COLGeek]

Go here for the chipset drivers: https://www.amd.com/en/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/x570

 

[Hvideo]

Ahh amazing, thanks! Finally it's downclocking on the balanced power plan

 

[drivinfast247]

Ahh amazing, thanks! Finally it's downclocking on the balanced power plan

But are you hitting the same boost clocks and even hitting advertised boost on a single core?

 

[Hvideo]

But are you hitting the same boost clocks and even hitting advertised boost on a single core?

I was hoping for a miricle but just ran blender single core and highest I can get is 4.3 on any one core.. previously it was all cores about 4.15 24/7 - expected a bit more of a boost to be honest

 

[drivinfast247]

I was hoping for a miricle but just ran blender single core and highest I can get is 4.3 on any one core.. previously it was all cores about 4.15 24/7 - expected a bit more of a boost to be honest

Many issues being reported. Are you on x570 chipset? I assume you are based on the link provided above.

 

[Hvideo]

Many issues being reported. Are you on x570 chipset? I assume you are based on the link provided above.

That's a shame.. Overall it's been a monster for 4k editing and gaming but I'd defnitely like to see it perform a bit closer to what was advertised.

Yes I'm using X570 ROG Crosshair VIII Hero WiFi, 2080ti, 128gb 3600, 1tb M2's. Cooler is NZXT Kraken X63 AIO - 280mm and temps are 75-85 under load and idle 50+ which seems a bit spicy. Do you think they will produce updates to address any of these issues or it's likely to persist until upgrade?

 

[mitch074]

That's a shame.. Overall it's been a monster for 4k editing and gaming but I'd defnitely like to see it perform a bit closer to what was advertised.

Yes I'm using X570 ROG Crosshair VIII Hero WiFi, 2080ti, 128gb 3600, 1tb M2's. Cooler is NZXT Kraken X63 AIO - 280mm and temps are 75-85 under load and idle 50+ which seems a bit spicy. Do you think they will produce updates to address any of these issues or it's likely to persist until upgrade?

Are you sure you have the latest BIOS for your motherboard? And your cooling is no good - either you have badly seated your AIO, or it's defective.

 

[Hvideo]

I believe so, updated it recently but will double check. I had it built by overclockers UK who stress tested it before it went out, then accidentally wiped it when i'd paid for it to be pre installed and drivered up. Installed Windows and drivers myself so may have missed something - will go through everything again and see. What temps would you expect to see under load and idle?

 

[drea.drechsler]

I was hoping for a miricle but just ran blender single core and highest I can get is 4.3 on any one core.. previously it was all cores about 4.15 24/7 - expected a bit more of a boost to be honest

Blender can be an extremely heavy, all-core workload so 4.3G might about all it will do even with really good cooling.

The way it boosts to rated clock speed is in light bursty workloads and on one core at a time. As the cores heat up with more cores and threads working hard it will lower clocks as you're seeing it.

Running a Defender virus scan is a good way to see it boosting to max clocks, one core at a time but bouncing around between preferred cores. You can see it boosting in HWInfo.

 

[mdd1963]

There may only be a couple cores capable of advertised 4.6 GHz, and, naturally, this will be seen only briefly on a single core pr two...but, one would expect to see 4.5 GHz sometimes.... (there have been complaints that only 30% of users ever saw the advertised boost speed, and that perhaps AMD seemingly 'pulled a fast one' talking about/advertising speeds that would only be seen with an LN2 setup, etc...)

Run CPU-Z/Bench/bench CPU, which will first run a multi-core load for a few seconds, then a single core test...; I'd expect to see a higher clock speed primarily on the single core test....

If Ryzen Master or HWMonitor show a brief boost to 4.6 GHz on a single core, it is working...

(So many tasks including gaming primarily use multiple cores, so, 4.1- 4.3 GHz mixture across all cores is quite respectable IMO....)

 

[drea.drechsler]

That's a shame.. Overall it's been a monster for 4k editing and gaming but I'd defnitely like to see it perform a bit closer to what was advertised.
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I see you're using the chipset drivers...that's good. I hope you've updated to the latest BIOS for your board too. Also use the Ryzen Balanced plan and don't change it. It's specifically set up to facilitate both it's boosting and power efficiency.

But some settings in BIOS you may not have made are to enable the following: AMD Cool'n'Quiet, Advance (or Global) C States, Processor CPPC and Processor CPPC Preferred Cores. Don't leave them in AUTO or DEFAULT as that often means DISABLED.

Also be sure both multiplier and voltage are in AUTO.

Get HWINfo64 and set it up with a polling period of 500mS then drag a graph to the desk top of processor multiplier or clock speed for each core...yah, 16 of them for a 3950X. Now watch the boosting action for each core. It boost one core at a time, but you'll see it in the graph. It will 'prefer' certain cores based on which are strongest and share resources like caches, in same CCX, on same CCD. It also only boosts to 4.6G on light, bursting tasks. Heavy tasks like Blender will heat the core up so it slows, to a very respectable 4.3Ghz as you've already found.

Really, in the end it's the high mid-range clocks that really do the work in heavy processing. The best way to showcase what it does is to actually use it, not look for clock speeds. A good benchmark program also helps...like Cinebench 20.

 

[wyliec2]

I have a fairly similar build - 3950x + ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Formula + Kraken X62 280mm AIO. Also 32Gb Trident Z Neo 3600 . The reason I got the 3950x is I've been doing a bunch of video encoding along with some photo processing (strictly hobby).

I don't push too hard since I may have Handbrake jobs queued up that will run steady 100% for a few days. I've played with 4.05 - 4.15 all-core overclocks and Aida64 was showing just over 200 watts power consumption and 72-75 C temps - it takes plenty of cool air available to keep the temps steady.

I have a benchmark encode I was doing that ran 1:29 (hrs:mins) on the all-core overclock. Going back to Optimum Defaults with only DOCP enabled (at 3600), the same job took 1:32 - about 2 minutes/hour slower (< 5%) but power was running under 140 watts and temps under 60C - Aida64 showed average CPU clock at 3.96.

I've had this hobby for many years - I ran a comparison on my prior machines:

I7-5960x - moderate overclock at 4.0 3:19 (took over twice as long and was running 170 watts)
I7-4470k - delidded and overclocked to 4.2 6:20 (80 watts; my wife's daily driver now)

Just for fun I tried on a Dell XPS13 I recently bought with an I5-10210u 9:26 !!!

No matter how you slice it, the 3950x kicks butt and cost a good amount less to build than the 5960x did 5 years ago!

I'm anxiously watching to see others' experiences with it...