[SOLVED] How UNRELIABLE AIDA64 is???

[sidratulmuntaha2026]

Using MemTest86 PRO, there was no RAM issue for 8 passes. However, AIDA64 is throwing "HARDWARE ERROR" every 10 minutes of running memory stress test.

Like, seriously????? What's the problem with AIDA64? Should I stick to other programs like MemTest64 or Prime95?

 

[IBeats]

Using MemTest86 PRO, there was no RAM issue for 8 passes. However, AIDA64 is throwing "HARDWARE ERROR" every 10 minutes of running memory stress test.

Like, seriously????? What's the problem with AIDA64? Should I stick to other programs like MemTest64 or Prime95?

Are you overclocking any components?

 

[sidratulmuntaha2026]

Are you overclocking any components?

Yes, I'm trying RAM overclocking. CPU stress test goes without any issue for hours but RAM stress test always ends up with hardware issue after 10-15 minutes.

 

[kerberos_20]

memtest is slowpoke to detect anything
if aida says u have hardware failure, that means u have one

 

[IBeats]

Yes, I'm trying RAM overclocking. CPU stress test goes without any issue for hours but RAM stress test always ends up with hardware issue after 10-15 minutes.

Try and stress test without overclocking the ram and see if you get the same crashes.

You might want to post your system specs just to get a better understanding.

• GPU:
• CPU:
• RAM:
• MOBO:
• PSU:
• OC VALUES:

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I have had ram stable in memtest but it crashed in games.

I suspect since aida says there is a hw issue, your ram is unstable. Try bumping volts up.

 

[sidratulmuntaha2026]

Try and stress test without overclocking the ram and see if you get the same crashes.

You might want to post your system specs just to get a better understanding.

• GPU:
• CPU:
• RAM:
• MOBO:
• PSU:
• OC VALUES:

My system is:

Mobo: MSI B450M Bazooka Plus
Processor: Ryzen 3 1200
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 @ CL 16

OC:
Processor: 3.7GHz @ 1.3V
RAM: 3200MHz @ CL 16 (default values) @ 1.4V

 

[kerberos_20]

for ryzen 1 u may need to increase memory controller voltage, they dont like 3200mhz at stock voltage
SOC voltage - limit 1.2v
VDDP 1.1

 

[sidratulmuntaha2026]

for ryzen 1 u may need to increase memory controller voltage, they dont like 3200mhz at stock voltage
SOC voltage - limit 1.2v
VDDP 1.1

Thanks a lot for the help.

One thing, when I try applying the Ryzen DRAM Calculator values, I get an unstable system... I tried to apply the SAFE option, but no help. Tried lowering speed to 300MHz and lower, but still no luck.
http://www.gskill.com/product/165/1...-VDDR4-3200MHz-CL16-18-18-38-1.35V8GB-(2x4GB)

Is Ryzen DRAM Calculator reliable? Is there any such tool that will help me calculate my RAM OC?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I like to just ramp up speed and voltage and then check for stability with a few programs rather than using a calculator.
Just make sure the DRAM voltage is under 1.425 ish volts.

My 1200 on b350 motherboard has gotten my ram to 3333mhz with 1.4v. I did not adjust the SOC voltage for my CPU.

 

[sidratulmuntaha2026]

I like to just ramp up speed and voltage and then check for stability with a few programs rather than using a calculator.
Just make sure the DRAM voltage is under 1.425 ish volts.

My 1200 on b350 motherboard has gotten my ram to 3333mhz with 1.4v. I did not adjust the SOC voltage for my CPU.

Should I bother with the CL timings and sub-timings? Or, leave them be (just the speed)?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

You can work on tightening timings.

I would work on getting your ram at the fastest stable speed and then tighten timings. Timing adjustment does sometimes require extra Mv aswell.

 

[sidratulmuntaha2026]

You can work on tightening timings.

I would work on getting your ram at the fastest stable speed and then tighten timings. Timing adjustment does sometimes require extra Mv aswell.

So, here's how I should approach...

• Crank up the speed and voltage and check for stability
• Try tightening up the CL timings and check for stability
• Try tightening the sub-timings and check for stability

Now, what about CPU voltages? Should I keep the SoC/VDDP on "Auto"?

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I would leave it at auto unless you run into a wall where you can't seem to overclock ram any further.

I may revisit overclocking my ram aswell. I really want 3400mhz.

 

[sidratulmuntaha2026]

I would leave it at auto unless you run into a wall where you can't seem to overclock ram any further.

I may revisit overclocking my ram aswell. I really want 3400mhz.

Thanks again, man.

I heard that Ryzen 1st gen is quite troublesome for RAM overclocking... is that correct? And what software to use for stability check? I can't run MemTest86 for 8+ hours every time I crank up the speed... should I really rely on AIDA64? How about MemTest64, Prime95, MemTest etc. ones?

I re-ran AIDA64 and it went on without any trouble for an hour... previously, it reported issue within a couple minutes.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I heard that Ryzen 1st gen is quite troublesome for RAM overclocking... is that correct?

Very. In the early days, little ram kits would boot with ryzen 1xxx, let alone run at rated speed or overclock. Now with bios and agesa updates, this has improved.

And what software to use for stability check? I can't run MemTest86 for 8+ hours every time I crank up the speed... should I really rely on AIDA64?

I would run memtestX86 for a couple of passes at least. Then run Aida for another 30 min and make sure there are no hardware faults. You can also opt to run Prime 95 large FFT which is designed to stress ram specifically.
Finally, run some games for a while and make sure they don't crash.

If they crash, bump up the voltage. If the voltage is already high, turn down speed.

 

[sidratulmuntaha2026]

Very. In the early days, little ram kits would boot with ryzen 1xxx, let alone run at rated speed or overclock. Now with bios and agesa updates, this has improved.

I would run memtest for 30 minutes. Then run Aida for another 30 min.
Finally, run some games for a while and make sure they don't crash.

If they crash, bump up the voltage. If the voltage is already high, turn down speed.

Thanks, man... 😊😊😊😊

 

[kerberos_20]

i do have ryzen 1 with dual sided samsung b die (3200 c14 gtzr)
with default xmp, 2933 is max (its on qvl as 2933 and amd officialy doesnt support higher clock on dual sided sticks)
with some fidling with timings, voltages, resistances, it can go stable 3400 (ram voltage 1.35 btw)
usualy u shouldnt touch resistances (proc odt / rtz), u should touch it only if u get hundreds of errors in memtest
if u get single random error here and there than tFAV, tRRD_S, tRTP, tRDWR, tWRRD, tRFC are usualy culprit
but usualy if u get no errors in memtest while u get BSOD in windows, then its voltage thing


as for ryzen dram calc...none of its suggested profiles ever worked for me
there are differences between mainboards (curved traces) which changes signal line capabilities..so up to u to use it