hows this for a cheap gaming build?

[lakeyb85]

Any improvements? IE cheaper alternatives?

thanks
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Lakeyb/saved/#view=hGLgXL

 

[Outlander_04]

Id want to add a processor if it was my build. Probably an 860k.

Ditch the sound card. That's built in to the motherboard. Ditch the extra fan . Maybe consider an m-ATX case.

Spend the money you save to get a GTX 960

 

[Finkledbody]

Whats your budget? Do you already have a CPU?

 

[lakeyb85]

there was a cpu there it just wouldnt show AMD FX-6350 3.9GHz 6-Core Processor
as cheap as possible.
ok ill take fan and sound card off.
im trying to ge the parts together and search ebay etc to buy it. its for a mate who wants to run h1z1 and csgo etc games like that. not on the greatest settings but just playable.

thanks for the input so far

 

[turbopiki]

Intel will be better if he wants to play games like H1Z1

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor (£85.52 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£56.34 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£29.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£34.92 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R7 370 2GB PCS+ Video Card (£114.72 @ More Computers)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£25.29 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£33.59 @ Aria PC)
Keyboard: Cooler Master CM Storm Devastator Gaming Bundle Wired Gaming Keyboard w/Optical Mouse (£25.99 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £406.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-02 20:32 BST+0100

 

[lakeyb85]

ah ok, i was told amd 6 core were better options no?

 

[lakeyb85]

thinking about it, i have an I3 3.2ghz computer at the moment though the motherboard MSI-7613 is outdated, would it be much effort to swap boards and still keep all the stuff (ram etc)? is it easy to find compatible products?

 

[lakeyb85]

sorry i means an I5 650 3.2ghz

 

[Outlander_04]

The FX 6300 is a far more powerful processor than the Intel i3, and is a much better choice for online gaming.

Unfortunately it is not compatible with your original mb choice. For an FX processor you need a mb with a 970 or 990 series chip set

 

[Outlander_04]

Older RAM will not be compatible. Chances are its 1.8 volt . This would damage a modern processor

 

[turbopiki]

Look at ARMA 3 it H1Z1 runs on same engine as Arma 3. http://www.hardwarepal.com/best-cpu-gaming-9-processors-8-games-tested/

i3 4160 is alot better than i5 650, so i would get it with the new board but you can re-use your RAM if its 1.5v or lower

 

[turbopiki]

The FX 6300 is a far more powerful processor than the Intel i3, and is a much better choice for online gaming.

Unfortunately it is not compatible with your original mb choice. For an FX processor you need a mb with a 970 or 990 series chip set

fx-6300 is just a bit better in online games not alot, but it gets destroyed in most games when you play offline

 

[Outlander_04]

No turbopiki it is not "destroyed" in single player.

In almost all those scenarios the FX will be sending the monitor 60 plus FPS . For most monitors that's the maximum they can display anyway so a lightly loaded Intel making more FPS is not better at all , a d is often worse because screen tearing becomes an issue

 

[sora]

ah ok, i was told amd 6 core were better options no?

I would personally just stick with an AMD FX series for a cheap gaming build... If you want to upgrade later on go ahead and get an Intel CPU.

 

[Karadjgne]

The fx 6300 is by far a better choice over an fx 6350. First is heat consideration. The 6300 stock is 95w, the 6350 is a failed 8320 - 2x cores and 125w. Second is OC. The 6300 is much more versatile at its TDP than the higher wattage 6350. You'll see better, more stable OC with an equitable cooling solution, or equivalent OC with a smaller, cheaper cooler. Price, the 6300 is cheaper.

None of the Intel cpu's listed will OC, and at @4.5GHz that's usually easily attainable by a 6300, none of the above Intel cpu's will be it's equal in performance. In bf4 multi-player, a 4.5GHz 6300 is a much stronger cpu than the i3 with HT, and even with amds single thread handicapped performance when compared to Intel cpu's, it'll handle GTA-V, or h1z1 easily.

At stock clocks, it may very well be that the i3 is stronger in more than a few games, but OC most definitely changes the rules where amd fx Cpus are concerned.

 

[lakeyb85]

The FX 6300 is a far more powerful processor than the Intel i3, and is a much better choice for online gaming.

Unfortunately it is not compatible with your original mb choice. For an FX processor you need a mb with a 970 or 990 series chip set

ok so what sort of build would i need for that processor?

 

[Karadjgne]

Budget.
Team red, team green, don't care.
What else is needed? Psu? Case? Hdd? SSD?

It's easy to whip out a nice budget build, start to finish, but that becomes moot if you are reusing parts

 

[lakeyb85]

thanks for your responses guys.
lowest price possible, no bothered about make etc if my mobo i currently have is not very upgradable then a clean fresh build would be ideal if you dont mind
Thanks for the help

 

[Outlander_04]

Karadjgnes post about the differences between the fx processors is utterly wrong.
All fx dies are 8 core.
The 63xx processors have to disabled cores, the 43xx models have 4 diabled cores.

FX 6300 and FX6350 are identical silicon and construction. Only thebheatsink changes. If you are buying an aftermarket cooler then then the 6300 is the smart choice.
Use a mb with a 970 series chipset. Not an MSI though

 

[Karadjgne]

I'm not wrong. All fx are 4 module, 8 core dies. AMD doesn't manufacture the 6350 as such. It's a full fledged 8320 but one of the cores has failed testing, so the entire module is disabled. This leaves the factory set TDP at 125w. The 630p is different. It's an actual line of cpus where a module is deliberately disabled. The Northbridge processor is also clocked 200MHz slower, which puts the TDP at 95w, same with the 4300. Nothing to do with heatsink choice. Hexa core 6300's, if hacked, at a factory level, can be changed into a 95w, 8 core, version of an 8320, or get screwed by a bad core. 6350's are screwed from the get go. Same goes for the 4350, its an 8320 with 2 failed cores in different modules, the 4300 is its own line with deliberately disabled modules. AMD doesn't disable individual cores, it disables the entire module. L2 cache is per module, 4x2Mb for 8core, 3x2Mb for 6core and 2x2Gb for 4core fx Cpus. If individual cores were disabled, the remaining core in the paired module would still have access to the L2 cache, so you would end up with a 4300 with access to 8Mb of L2, so for parity, the module is blocked, not individual cores in separate modules.

Asus and Gigabyte have fewer reported problems with the 970 chipsets than msi, for sure. Most msi problems are related to longevity, many simply go belly up somewhere between 6months and 1 yr.

 

[lakeyb85]

ok back to original post, anyone care to build me a cheap pc, with the best cheapest MOBO, im not bothered what sort aslong as it runs H1Z1 CS GO