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ok so I guess its no display at all not even for bios screen ? did not know if it was just blackscreening when loading to windows

as far as a card goes I would not go too much maybe a cheap lo pro something then see how that works out

like here you kinda see the HP guy question if a Radeon R9 280 to work ?? so I would not count on a newer rx 400 to ??

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Graphics-card-upgrade-for-hp-pavilion-p6710f/td-p/4954052

then like I saying to stick with a 600 series or lower card

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Graphics-card-upgrade-for-hp-pavilion-p6710f/td-p/4957339


I'd go with something cheap and safe that maybe a...
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Hello... Any NVidia video card without GTX on it will be bad for gaming... and IF also equipped with DDR3 video memory... if this is just a Office PC then fine.
You have a small office Power supply in this model (250watt)... the best possible gaming/performance Video card to try with it would be a GTX750/750 TI for your $$$, @55/60 watts.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GT+730
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133532&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction-Components&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-Components-_-Video%20Card%20-%20Nvidia-_-PNY%20Technologies%20%20Inc.-_-14133532&cm_sp=&AID=11892368&PID=3962334&SID= $90USD for 1GB Gdd5 750.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487024&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Video+Card+-+Nvidia-_-N82E16814487024&gclid=CNykqIb13dACFYO3wAodz9MHkw&gclsrc=aw.ds $120USD for 2GB Gddr5 750ti

The RX460 2 GB Gddr5 will be 75 watts... and a good performance choice too. B / http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+RX+460
Your PS will be the weakest part here... so make sure you vacuum the Dust, Lint, from the Fan openings and have good cool air flow through your case and PS.
 
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I appreciate your feedback on this. I should have mentioned that I am open to upgrading the power supply on this. I found a few earlier threads on this computer model from 2013 and earlier and there is still a 550 W supply available from those threads, but the graphic cards were all out of date. I also plan on adding in some memory while doing this project so ultimately I hope to improve the gaming aspect of it for my son, while still not really needing it to be an uber-gaming computer.

Looking through your links, it seems that the RX460 2 GB Gddr5 had the best performance and value. I am now looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202228. I could save money on the power supply and direct that to maxing out the memory instead. Again, I thank you.
 
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What do you mean your integrated graphics is failing? intergrated graphics use your cpu and ram if those are failing your entire computer will fail. Do you mean you just don't get enough preformance? There a nvidia video card does not need gtx to be good. I have a 1050 ti. It's faster than my 770 gtx.

edit: iron sounds is recommending good video cards
 
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I was loading up one day like normal and then the screen glitched for a second and all went dark followed by 'no signal'. I have reattached cords. Nope. I have tried different monitor. Nope. Other computers work on that monitor so it doesn't seem to be a monitor/cord issue.

Maybe you are right and the whole motherboard is fried, but I'm not so sure on it. The computer turns on ok and makes all the usual beeps and noises, the usual delays, the usual flurries of activities. It sounds like it is booting up just fine, but no video signal coming out of it. Of course, without a video signal it is hard to confirm I guess.
 
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looking at this seems like you got a HP proprietary / incompatable bios that may not allow a newer card over say NVidia 600 series

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Graphics-card-upgrade-for-hp-pavilion-p6710f/td-p/4954052

my disclaimer

some models of store bought computers [dell.hp,acer,ect..] may come with a ''locked or fixed'' bios and may not allow you to change certain hardware as a video card.. this is done to protect them from undue warranty claims and refunds .this is not done to hurt you but to protect them. you really need to see if that upgrade has been proven to work in your model first before you invest money in it .. there are a lot of these threads here at toms to look at some models will allow upgrades and some dont.. and a lot of guys here say ya ya ya when is really no no no...it would be sad you spent $200 on a card that wount post after you installed it as most find out. then get told its your psu and you spend more and end up right back where you are now, but its up to you good luck..


you got to know the the boards in these computers are not like the ones we use to do custom builds witch are open to upgrading with in the boards compatibly . the bios is custom made for there design and just for the parts they authorize to be used on there computers there only guaranteed to work as is out of the box as you bought it ,..


also these boards do not have to meet atx standards and there pci-e slot power may not do the required 75w needed for most higher end cards and can be limited to say 45 or 60w that is all thats needed with the low end factory oem cards that it may of shipped with
 
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mb- I leave the earbuds plugged in generally so i was only listening to the actual hardware noises. I could hear a few beeps from the earbuds, but they sounded like the normal beeps I would get. I will give it a listen again tonight and get back to you.

jm- I did plug a different pc into that monitor using that same cord and it worked fine so I eliminated that.
 
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may try another port off the board like if your using the vga may try the dvi or hdmi to see if just the port failed ?

may try clear cmos / reset the bios ?

did you do any updates that may of change any configuration or may not of been compatible ?

hate to sound mean but them prebuilts are throw away computers it fails you trash it and run back to Wal-Mart and buy there newest better one , repeat.
 
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mbar- it is the usual windows starting up sounds. it all seems to be working normally except no video.

junkey- there are no error beeps. there are only two ports and neither work. i haven't tried clearing the cmos yet.

I hear what you are saying. I kind of want to break that cycle though. Mostly I am looking for a quick fix/stopgap until I can buy a proper machine or even build my own down the road.
 
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I will have to try that tonight. I doubt it as I get no feed period. Even during the bootup before it would go into a safe mode.
I had made no recent changes to answer another question you had posed.

Having reread the link that you posed above about HP limiting card compatibility, it seems like that disqualifies Ironsounds' proposed GTX750/750 TI, but the RX460 2 GB Gddr5 would still be in play. I have emailed them to try and verify compatibility.
 
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ok so I guess its no display at all not even for bios screen ? did not know if it was just blackscreening when loading to windows

as far as a card goes I would not go too much maybe a cheap lo pro something then see how that works out

like here you kinda see the HP guy question if a Radeon R9 280 to work ?? so I would not count on a newer rx 400 to ??

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Graphics-card-upgrade-for-hp-pavilion-p6710f/td-p/4954052

then like I saying to stick with a 600 series or lower card

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Graphics-card-upgrade-for-hp-pavilion-p6710f/td-p/4957339


I'd go with something cheap and safe that maybe a best compatible to see if it gets you up and going then decide on what to do next as far as a better card if it will take one or not ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709 600038363 8000

then you see whats said here when you use a 700 card or up about the hp bios used on any model that could come in to play /

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/Nvidia-GT-710-card-not-working-with-Pavilion-P7-1226/td-p/5644965

pretty much comes down to if HP shipped it with windows 7 or below be carefull if it had windows 8 or higher then your chances are better on the UEFI bios support


like I say prebuilts have proprietary motherboards and bios and then there in business to sell computers not have you upgrading them
 
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The HP guy says 4xx, 5xx and 6xx (minus 610 and 650) should work, but you are saying a newer rx460 might not. This is where my lack of knowledge about graphics cards is killing me. I have to better educate myself on these I guess.

I did make a post in the hp forum http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Hardware-and-Upgrade-Questions/HP-p6710f-graphics-card-upgrade/m-p/5881827 and there is a response that the guy believes it should work. What do you think of the guy's response?

I have also sent out an email to sapphire to see what they say about that card's compatibility. (as well as the 750ti)

Thanks for bearing with me!
 
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well ? should'a , could'a , would'a . that's not yes it will ?

thing is that's all the chance you now got to take . me for what I know and see form a lot of threads like yours on cards for a prebuilt I would go with a cheap ''The HP guy says 4xx, 5xx and 6xx (minus 610 and 650) should work''

then he don't tell if that full sized full power cards or the low powered low pro cards ??

like I tend to say ''in the end any upgrade you do is all your own risk prebuilt manufactures only guarantees there computers work as sold to you as is out of the box from there factory with what they put on it , not a drop more . there in business to sell computers not have you upgrading them

you buy ,you try, and hope it don't make you cry

or if you got a local computer shop take it to them and tell them what you want let them put it in and worry if the card you decide on works pay the man if not tell him thanks for tying and move on or have him try other cards he has around till you find he best one that does work as expected .

 
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so after further feedback from HP and Sapphire, I went with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102933

this card works and the old pc is up and running again. One further consideration is that I needed a card that was Legacy, not UEFI.

so thanks again for everybody's input and assistance.

btw junkeymonkey, i still drive a 1991 previa that i replace parts for, etc. everyone says i am stupid and should get a newer car already but i am what i am i guess. :)
 
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not stupid to want to keep it going just got to be careful with what you use to keep it going with all I can do is point this out on what can happen with a prebuilt and help you make a wise choice not find a card you got leaves you holding the bag .out good money and looking at nothing but black screen at best

glad that card worked out

good luck
 
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