News HP's Envy Move is a 9-Pound All-in-One Designed to Be Mobile

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I do see the use case, as niche as it is, they're trying to cover, but the execution, at least from the provided images, leaves a lot to be desired...

I wonder if there is a "better design" for the problem, TBH. I can imagine something like a 2-in-1 design (tablet-laptop) with a detachable keyboard may have worked better? This is, probably, the cheapest design they could come up with while willing to risk zero sales. I just don't see how this is a good design though... Or at least I'm having trouble visualizing how it would fit the use case appropriately.

Oh welp, good try I guess.

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toffty said:
God the ergonomics in the photo are horrible!

The subtext should read, "9-Pound All-in-One will destroy your back and neck when carrying and using!"
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The ergonomics are far better than a laptop on a desk. The centre of the screen is higher and it can be placed further away from the keyboard. As for carrying it - would you really put your back out picking up a gallon of milk?
 
The market for this product is essentially the people who need a single portable 23" touchscreen monitor, and I can think of some, such as people who make presentations on location (designers, planners, real estate workers, etc) where a larger than laptop screen is desirable for best effect, and 9lbs isn't that heavy (about a gallon of milk) and it appears to have a decent handle. The price is about right, but the 16GB soldered RAM may hold it back
 
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The problem with luggable has always been price-performance which is why the form factor has been limited to industrial uses. At $899 and decent looks I would definitely consider HP's offering. 90% of laptop usages in my household never leave the house and some even rarely changing desks.
 
deesider said:
The ergonomics are far better than a laptop on a desk. The centre of the screen is higher and it can be placed further away from the keyboard.
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Laptop screens are on a hinge so they can be tilted.
You would need a monitor shelf to place this on.

Apart for the touchscreen, handle and battery, this is like a PC-counterpart to an Apple iMac, and I think people would buy it as such.
The iMac has the screen both higher up and also on a hinge, allowing the screen to be tilted.
BTW. Only the cheapest iMac has as few USB ports as this computer has, and the iMac also has a headphone jack and you can get it with an Ethernet jack (in the power supply...)

I can see uses of a touchscreen PC mounted on a wall, but this computer does not come with anything to make it wall-mounted.
 
I think the whole concept isn't especially new. In 2006 Dell produced something very similar - XPS M2010, with detachable keyboard, Media Center remote, and 20" display on Centrino Duo platform.

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The HP Envy Move All-in-One 23.8 is a portable PC that wants to serve as a home hub, too.

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I guess it's a move in the right direction. They all need to make hi performance laptops bigger, thicker, so they can actually put some real cooling power into them. 212* degrees (f) is not what I consider "turbo cool" like they all claim!!! My MSI easy bake oven lives on thermal throttle under real work loads, even a 2000 cfm blower fan can't keep it cool! Yeah, turbo cool my left nut, good one!
 
USAFRet said:
Removing the mobility of a laptop.
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If you can't pick up and carry around a messily 5-10 pound workhorse of a machine with some real and actual cooling power, then that's your own personal problem. But your negative opinion of such a thing does not negate the need for such a thing. I said "hi performance", I did not say every day brows the web business class!
 
t3t4 said:
If you can't pick up and carry around a messily 5-10 pound workhorse of a machine with some real and actual cooling power, then that's your own personal problem. But your negative opinion of such a thing does not negate the need for such a thing. I said "hi performance", I did not say every day brows the web business class!
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Trust me..I've humped packs far larger than that, for days/weeks.

I'm just saying...make it too big, and it might as well not be a "laptop".

And if you can leave most of the processing power back home at the server farm, your mobile device need not be "hi performance".
 
USAFRet said:
Trust me..I've humped packs far larger than that, for days/weeks.

I'm just saying...make it too big, and it might as well not be a "laptop".

And if you can leave most of the processing power back home at the server farm, your mobile device need not be "hi performance".
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I'd much rather have a portable desktop personally speaking, but that's how far I'm willing to go to get the performance I paid to receive. But you make a good point with remote compute power. Of coarse that all depends on network speed and availability for viability.

I/we just need a 10lb super computer (aka, modern laptop) that can actually cool itself, with a built in monitor and enough battery power for 2 hours maxed out. I'll gladly bring my own mouse and keyboard. But instead all we have is obnoxious fan noise in a modern thin and sleek laptop that cannot cool itself to save it's own microchips, despite all the advertisement B.S. claims.

Portable class: We already have that.

High performance portable class: Nothing exists aside from the few attempts with external liquid cooling.

There's no need for multiple boxes and multi-plug in connections, all we need is one box large enough to give the performance I/we paid for with out living on the thermal throttle. I seriously cannot keep my laptop cool even with God blowing on it (aka, 2k cfm blower fan). That screams to me, Houston, we have a problem!
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