Question I bought a 13th Gen Core i7 and Core i9. Torn which to keep.

[zmihlrad]

So I bought both, because the price was right.

Paid $380 for the i7 13700k and $620 for the i9 13900k

In addition, for buying a MOBO with it, I got $20 additional off. So for the MSI Pro z790 I paid $220.

Its mainly a gaming machine.

I am entirely torn which card to keep. The build is below, ignore the video card I will be using a 7900XTX I just picked something comparable in price and power demand.

Will be using 32g of DDR4.

Am I just throwing money away on the i9 for the sake of saying its an i9 machine?

Some are saying thats silly get a ryzen card to pair with the AMD GPU ( i was under the impression that was irrelevant)

Others saying intel is dumb entirely because the socket is going to be obsolete very soon. (Isnt that ALWAYS the case with intel?)

Others saying DDR4 on the 13th gen CPU is a waste.

Most of all, im not sure if the extra $240 for the i9 over the i7 really will provide me any value or both are just far faster than they need to be right now anyway.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wp9vC6

 

[John Chesterfield]

Gaming machine? Send back the i9 and keep the i7.

 

[Phaaze88]

Does the PC make you money?
If the answer is yes, then the i9, because time is money, and you'll make that back and then some.
If no, then ask yourself how badly you want it, 'cause that's not something anyone else can, or should be, answering for you.

My POVs:
-The PC doesn't make me money, it's just a hobby.
-If I got an i9, I feel I would be doing it a disservice getting such a product and NOT tinkering with the settings on my own. Not like I can't do the same with the i7, ~but...
-If I just want the thing to work, and not think about tinkering with anything, or if I am a bit torn over pricing, then the i7.

Others saying intel is dumb entirely because the socket is going to be obsolete very soon. (Isnt that ALWAYS the case with intel?)

This REALLY depends on each and every individuals' upgrade cycles, and if the PC makes you money.
-If you do upgrades like every 4-5 years, odds are, you'll replace the entire platform(cpu+mobo+ram) anyway, sinking a bunch of cash at once in those intervals.
-If you do upgrades much more frequently, maybe one will have more cash saved up across 3 gens of cpu upgrades than they would from 2 - who can say. Entire platform changes are inevitable, though.
-If the PC makes you money, neither really matters, 'cause you'll make that back anyway, and more.


A problem I see is that Intel and AMD's 2 and 3 cpu gens per socket are 'misaligned', and that made/makes for some wacky comparisons. The numbers 2 and 3 don't align until every 6, and that time is up ahead, actually:
14th and 15th gen Intel on new LGA socket Vs Ryzen 8000(AM5 2nd) and 9000(AM5 3rd).

 

[zmihlrad]

Does the PC make you money?
If the answer is yes, then the i9, because time is money, and you'll make that back and then some.
If no, then ask yourself how badly you want it, 'cause that's not something anyone else can, or should be, answering for you.

My POVs:
-The PC doesn't make me money, it's just a hobby.
-If I got an i9, I feel I would be doing it a disservice getting such a product and NOT tinkering with the settings on my own. Not like I can't do the same with the i7, ~but...
-If I just want the thing to work, and not think about tinkering with anything, or if I am a bit torn over pricing, then the i7.


This REALLY depends on each and every individuals' upgrade cycles, and if the PC makes you money.
-If you do upgrades like every 4-5 years, odds are, you'll replace the entire platform(cpu+mobo+ram) anyway, sinking a bunch of cash at once in those intervals.
-If you do upgrades much more frequently, maybe one will have more cash saved up across 3 gens of cpu upgrades than they would from 2 - who can say. Entire platform changes are inevitable, though.
-If the PC makes you money, neither really matters, 'cause you'll make that back anyway, and more.


A problem I see is that Intel and AMD's 2 and 3 cpu gens per socket are 'misaligned', and that made/makes for some wacky comparisons. The numbers 2 and 3 don't align until every 6, and that time is up ahead, actually:
14th and 15th gen Intel on new LGA socket Vs Ryzen 8000(AM5 2nd) and 9000(AM5 3rd).

Realistically it both makes me money and is used for gaming. The entire thing is a business expense.

But, I get by on an 8th gen i7 right now. Anything will be an outrageous increase.

And I am someone who builds a whole new system every 4-5 years.

 

[Phaaze88]

Realistically it both makes me money and is used for gaming. The entire thing is a business expense.

But, I get by on an 8th gen i7 right now. Anything will be an outrageous increase.

And I am someone who builds a whole new system every 4-5 years.

Then I see no real reason NOT to keep the i9, except if there's no interest in tinkering with the cpu's voltage, ring and per core frequencies, AVX offsets, and other things.

 

[zmihlrad]

I’m still torn, but I’m leaning toward returning the i9 in favor of the i7.
I’m guessing I won’t really benefit from the i9, it seems the i7 is so fast already and most people getting the i9 are just chasing an extra 5-10 fps in a game or something.

 

[Bob.B]

I’m still torn, but I’m leaning toward returning the i9 in favor of the i7.
I’m guessing I won’t really benefit from the i9, it seems the i7 is so fast already and most people getting the i9 are just chasing an extra 5-10 fps in a game or something.

I don't think many folks are going to be running the type of stuff that can use an i9.

The i7 will work just fine.

 

[zmihlrad]

I don't think many folks are going to be running the type of stuff that can use an i9.

The i7 will work just fine.

What type of stuff would you say needs the i9?

Its a matter of keeping it or diverting that $240 to a better MOBO etc. Or going to DDR5 which is prob a waste.

 

[Why_Me]

What type of stuff would you say needs the i9?

Its a matter of keeping it or diverting that $240 to a better MOBO etc. Or going to DDR5 which is prob a waste.

Unless you're doing professional video editing I see no reason to keep the i9. Return it along with the DDR4 board and step up to DDR5 would be the best bet imo.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-13700k/

 

[zmihlrad]

Unless you're doing professional video editing I see no reason to keep the i9. Return it along with the DDR4 board and step up to DDR5 would be the best bet imo.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-13700k/

Is it fair to say the 13th gen i7 is as fast as the 12th gen i9?

I think I will return it in favor of DDR5 then. I would be keeping it just to be the guy who says I have the i9...