I can run ganes at 100+ fps consistently but the game isnt smooth

[julian0marriaga]

I have an i7 7700k
Gtx 1050 2gb gddr5
8gb ddr4 RAM
I play on 1600x900 at 60 hz
Could it be the 60hz?
Ive already checked all my processes on task manager, theres hardly anything running on there and vsync is a pain with the input delay. Ive already gone to nvidia
3d settings, hardly any changes anything and it makes my games crash. And yes i also use dvi cables. Any help would be appreciated!

 

[androbourne]

Higher herts may make it smoother but 60 should be fine. Have you tried to disable vsync in Nvidia control and in game?

Also what game? Is all game or just specific ones?

 

[julian0marriaga]

Yes ive tried it all enabled and all disabled but it doent help, im trying to play a game called insurgency, a source game from like 2014. Its also noticeably choppy on cs go

 

[julian0marriaga]

Im not sure if its screen tearing or micro stuttering or frame timing, with screen tearing its the closest but when i watch vudeos of it its much more extreme than what im getting. Closes explanation to what ive got its that it feels choppy and not smooth even though the fps counter is consistently onThe 110-120 side

 

[Dunlop0078]

What do you mean by not smooth? Without vsync if you run at game at 100fps with a 60hz monitor you will get screen tearing, but I wouldn't describe that as "not smooth" it's just ugly.

It could be bad 0.1% low frame times causing micro stuttering. An in game FPS counter might not update fast enough to even show the drops in FPS. I would get msi afterbuner or something and measure the frametimes. Also have a look at GPU usage when the stuttering occurs in game. The 7700k should have a 1050 pegged at 100% GPU usage while playing in pretty much any game with vsync off.

 

[androbourne]

Yeah, I've played my fair share of that game : 0

However, the game is very old and I havn't tried playing it with new gen devices.

I bet it has to do with FPS limits. In CS GO I get like 400fps and i have to run command in console fps_max 144 to match my monitors refresh rates.

You may want to try the same but limit it down to 60.

 

[julian0marriaga]

Ive installed ge force experience to update my drivers and razer cortex to further inprove memory usage. But not much of a difference has come from it. Ill be trying after burner as soon as i get home. And would over clocking my gpu at the expense of a louder fan be worth looking into? Ive also seen videos where people over clocj their mobitors to gives them a couple extra hertz from 60 to like 75

 

[julian0marriaga]

Is that the exact same command just with 60 instead of 144? And i put it in the console right?

 

[julian0marriaga]

Would capping my frames still cause imput lag like vsync? Because when i have vsync on my game might jump up 1 fps or go down 1 randomly and that causes a big delay

 

[androbourne]

Is that the exact same command just with 60 instead of 144? And i put it in the console right?

Correct. fps_max 60

And no it wont cause issues.

If you force the game to run at the herts of your monitor then you wont receive screen tearings so you can also turn off vsync.

However, that changes depending on system configs, game etc... but that is generally how it works.

 

[julian0marriaga]

Ok so i locked it at 60 abd it feels smoother but now there is very noticable screen tearing

 

[androbourne]

You can try two things. Turn vsync back on or.

Try to set the FPS limit just under 60. Some games don't work well with functioning at the exact limit. Try fps_max 58 or 56 etc... Something just under 60.

On my setup I have vsync off, gsync on and fps_max set to my monitor herts.

 

[julian0marriaga]

I tured on triple buffer and it helped but the biggest issue os that when i move around the mouse all the detail and focus on the environment looses focus, kindda like motion blur but without the blur effect

 

[Dunlop0078]

I always get tearing using a game engine FPS cap, regardless of what the cap is set to. Your monitor is probably not 60hz exactly, it's probably more like 59.27hz or near that. I doubt CSGO will let you set the refresh rate to the exact refresh rate of your monitor, which is what I think needs to be done to avoid screen tearing when using a game engine fps cap.

 

[androbourne]

Yeah you are going to get mixed results. I have to use game engine fps cap only in CS GO but it works just fine. However, difference here is im using gsync.

What results do you get with capping fps to 58 and then enabling vsync?

 

[julian0marriaga]

Ive git it set tp 59 because without vsync on 60 it was tearing alot but with 59 it lowered it but now im switvhing it up from 59 al the way to 55 but not much of a difference to 59

 

[julian0marriaga]

Well anyways, this is the smoothest ive gotten thus game to run so thank you very much!

 

[androbourne]

I'm sure you can get it smoother by playing around with those settings and also in game settings and video control panel. But happy it's actually playable now. You're welcome!

P.S.
If you google it there is actually a steam file in the game directories were you can set the fps max command so you dont need to type it in every time the game loads. Don't remember where off the top of my head. Just an FYI.

 

[julian0marriaga]

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Question from julian0marriaga : "My PC is strong but cant run games."

hi guys i have an I7 7700K, 8gb of RAM and a gtx1050 2gb gddr5 im pretty sure my pc is strong enough to run a lot of things but for many games its really choppy and just not smooth, i get the necessary fps around 70-120 in most games but it feels choppy and uneven. Which makes 100 fps feel like 30. Please any help would be greatly appreciated. and if anyone wants to know i have a 1600x900 monitor at 60hz. ive tried so many things and nothing has solved it.

hi guys i have an I7 7700K, 8gb of RAM and a gtx1050 2gb gddr5 im pretty sure my pc is strong enough to run a lot of things but for many games its really choppy and just not smooth, i get the necessary fps around 70-120 in most games but it feels choppy and uneven. Which makes 100 fps feel like 30. Please any help would be greatly appreciated. and if anyone wants to know i have a 1600x900 monitor at 60hz. ive tried so many things and nothing has solved it.

Not sure what video settings/in which games you are trying to use, but your GPU definitely seems like it would be the bottleneck of your system...... lower the settings and give it a try would be my suggestion.

hi guys i have an I7 7700K, 8gb of RAM and a gtx1050 2gb gddr5 im pretty sure my pc is strong enough to run a lot of things but for many games its really choppy and just not smooth, i get the necessary fps around 70-120 in most games but it feels choppy and uneven. Which makes 100 fps feel like 30. Please any help would be greatly appreciated. and if anyone wants to know i have a 1600x900 monitor at 60hz. ive tried so many things and nothing has solved it.

Not sure what video settings/in which games you are trying to use, but your GPU definitely seems like it would be the bottleneck of your system...... lower the settings and give it a try would be my suggestion.

I have a friend with the exact same specs and he runs games alot better than me.

 

[androbourne]

Well for one. Not all hardware is the same. I could have the exact same system as you and we could easily get different results.

It's called the Silicon Lotto. Some chips are simply made better then others and that can causes performance differences. This goes for everything, not just CPUs.

Also depends on whats installed on his system, maintenance, OS configuration, in game settings etc... There is more to it then just "he has the same hardware".