I cannot decide my motherboard now...

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First, I saw Asus Maximum vi Hero (200 USD), and I think it's really good with good price. However, some people said I do not need that good of the motherboard for my build. Please help me! TY
My Build
Case http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009GXZ8MM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
CPU (also not sure)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CO8TBQ0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_8?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
or
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00CO8TBOW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399435639&sr=8-1&keywords=i5+4670k
I want to have a good cpu, so I don't need to replace later (at least 5 years)
PSU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ALYOPSS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
GPU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D3F7CFK/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I might SLI later
I play some games (but not in ultra setting or high quality), like maplestory or elsword. So, I think gtx 770 is enough for me. I will spend most of the time doing work though (not editing video, etc.)
CPU cooler http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009ZN2NH6/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I am not sure I need that good of cpu cooler, but for the case I chose, I think I need top fan, and H100i have 2 fans for the top. I think this suit it well. If not, I might use cooler master 212 evo (MUCH cheaper) or NH-D14. Or maybe even buy some fans and use the stock cooler?
Memory (8 or 16?)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QBUL1C/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I do not use editing or anything like that. People said if you don't do that, 8gb should be fine. However, isn't 16gb safer (i meant faster), and I do not need to replace later on, or I could upgrade to 32gb? IDK
Drive http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00E3W1726/ref=ox_sc_act_title_10?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I decided I only need 250gb SSD, because I do not need that many space (like 2tb ). So, what do you think? Will that SSD run slower without a HHD?
Windows 8
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3ZN2W0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_9?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I was going for windows 7, but I saw the support date is very close (2015 and 2020). Also, I heard windows 8 will change the start thing (yessss).
Anti Static Wrist
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004N8ZQKY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
I cannot afford to fry my pc the first time.
DVD driver http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0033Z2BAQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1H9NMCPZH97BO

Finally, my motherboard.
I saw this gigabyte board (much cheaper)
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Intel-6Gbps-Motherboards-GA-Z87-HD3/dp/B00D94X6AK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399435223&sr=8-1&keywords=z87
Can you compare this or other below 200 dollars motherboard to Asus Hero?
Also, another option is
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Z87-A-DDR3-1600-Motherboard/dp/B00CRJSV9O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1399436531&sr=8-2&keywords=asus+z87 (It's yellow)
or
http://www.amazon.com/Asus-Z87-PRO-1150-Motherboard/dp/B00CRJSXR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1399436559&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+z87
Please help me, 😀
 
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I would suggest Asus Hero VI. Don't think about others. I'm using Formula VI with i7. :)

Not so tough call about mobo 😉
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What's your budget? First off the static wrist strap is a waste of money - you're paying for a false sense of security. If a product doesn't work it's more the result of a poor production line or lack of quality control than it is to static. I've built and rebuilt several systems and never needed a static wrist strap. Like I said it's a false sense of security and you're just spending money needlessly. Just throw a plastic floor mat down and wipe down thoroughly where you plan to build and you'll be fine.

On your component selection though there's a few things I would suggest:

1. No need for an i7 if the plan is gaming. Get a i5-4670K and then invest more money in the GPU and get a GTX 780 or Radeon R9-280X
2. Put more money in the case - you want at least an NZXT Phantom 410, Fractal Design Define R4/Arc MIDI, or a Corsair 400R/500R.
3. Yeah you're correct on the RAM - you don't need more than 8GB if you're not editing video or anything.
4. Definitely, definitely get a mass storage drive. Even if you don't think you need the space - you will. On SSDs you have to remember that 10% of the drive's space is lost to formatting and after operating system install you only have about half as much as you think you do.
5. As far as CPU cooler goes the H100i is the most popular choice but there's far better coolers you can go with. If you want air go with a Noctua D14. If you want liquid the best choices are the NZXT Kraken X60, Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme, or Cooler Master Eisburg 240L.
 
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In addition to what coolers have been recommended by g-unit1111 you may also consider Swiftech H320/220.

For a case consider Corsiar 450D.

8GB RAM is plenty if rig is only for gaming. Make sure it is 2x4GB @ 1866/1600 with CAS 9. You can even get high speed RAMs.

Use SSD as your boot disk. For your data you may consider using WD Blue/Black caviar series HDD with minimum 2TB.

Spent more on high end graphics card. Consider 780 or even 780Ti if you can stretch budget.

For mobo, Asus Hero VI is a very good choice. Stick with it.

Regards,
 
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I do not have a budge, but I want it to be better, but the cheaper the better 😀
I live in CA (very dry climate), so you don't think I need anti static wrist?
If I have i7 4770k, I think I will be set for at least 5-10 years. So, I want to buy better cpu. (I actually think about that questions. Many people suggest me to have i5 4670k instead of i5 4770k) I am still not sure 🙁
Can you give me those case link, so I can check those, ty. First, I was thinking about Rosewill Thor v2, but idk. Please give me more good cases, so I can think about. Also, I think this question kind of relate to the cpu cooler. If the case have top fan, then I will probably buy Noctua D14 or Cooler Master Evo 212 (u didnt said anything about it? Is it that bad?) I am not sure about liquid cooling.
I do not want to make this complicated (the ssd and hhd), if I mixed, there will be alot of process and stuff. Maybe I will buy a 500gb SSD? At first, I was thinking about 120gb ssd with 1tb hhd. But I saw people saying if I don't download (only stream) video or big software (video editing), I do not need to waste my money on another unnecessary drive. I was thinking if I have too much stuff, I will buy a hhd later, and transfer file? (i just made that up xD) I just want to to be as cheap as possible.
 
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But why though? If you're gaming you don't need it. And I'm guessing that the OP isn't in the US considering most of the links point to Amazon.

8GB RAM is plenty if rig is only for gaming. Make sure it is 2x4GB @ 1866/1600 with CAS 9. You can even get high speed RAMs.

Use SSD as your boot disk. For your data you may consider using WD Blue/Black caviar series HDD with minimum 2TB.
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OP said they wanted an SSD but it should not be used as an only storage device, I definitely agree there.
 
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WAITTTT ???? I am so confused...
So, you want me to go to a shop to buy a cpu and motherboard combo to save money? SO, I am not going to buy at amazon (I want to buy everything in the same place)
But, as I say. SSD is enough for me (now idk)

 
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Which corsair ___D is the best for me? I just said i do not need much data

 
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Buying from the store isn't necessarily a bad thing if it saves you money.

As far as an SSD goes - it should not be your only storage device. If it's gaming or video editing you are going for - 250GB will not be enough in the long run. You have to remember that on a 250GB SSD, formatting takes 10% of the drive's space, so there goes 25GB. Then add in an operating system install. That takes away 16GB.. Then add in anti virus and any programs you plan to run, there goes another 40GB. And so on. You won't have much left for data files after that.
 
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I think I will just buy online...
Also for ssd, I do not really know how to setup both hhd and ssd (I saw those video tho). I do not do video editing (just saying) I really think 250gb is enough because if you take all the thing, I should have at least 150gb left. If I use too much, I already have a 1.5 tb external hard drive. I can put pictures or anything I don't use.
If it's not enough, I might buy 500gb SSD (expensive though)
 
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Also, Please answer this...
g-unit1111 said:
What's your budget? First off the static wrist strap is a waste of money - you're paying for a false sense of security. If a product doesn't work it's more the result of a poor production line or lack of quality control than it is to static. I've built and rebuilt several systems and never needed a static wrist strap. Like I said it's a false sense of security and you're just spending money needlessly. Just throw a plastic floor mat down and wipe down thoroughly where you plan to build and you'll be fine.

On your component selection though there's a few things I would suggest:

1. No need for an i7 if the plan is gaming. Get a i5-4670K and then invest more money in the GPU and get a GTX 780 or Radeon R9-280X
2. Put more money in the case - you want at least an NZXT Phantom 410, Fractal Design Define R4/Arc MIDI, or a Corsair 400R/500R.
3. Yeah you're correct on the RAM - you don't need more than 8GB if you're not editing video or anything.
4. Definitely, definitely get a mass storage drive. Even if you don't think you need the space - you will. On SSDs you have to remember that 10% of the drive's space is lost to formatting and after operating system install you only have about half as much as you think you do.
5. As far as CPU cooler goes the H100i is the most popular choice but there's far better coolers you can go with. If you want air go with a Noctua D14. If you want liquid the best choices are the NZXT Kraken X60, Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme, or Cooler Master Eisburg 240L.


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I do not have a budge, but I want it to be better, but the cheaper the better 😀
I live in CA (very dry climate), so you don't think I need anti static wrist?
If I have i7 4770k, I think I will be set for at least 5-10 years. So, I want to buy better cpu. (I actually think about that questions. Many people suggest me to have i5 4670k instead of i5 4770k) I am still not sure 🙁
Can you give me those case link, so I can check those, ty. First, I was thinking about Rosewill Thor v2, but idk. Please give me more good cases, so I can think about. Also, I think this question kind of relate to the cpu cooler. If the case have top fan, then I will probably buy Noctua D14 or Cooler Master Evo 212 (u didnt said anything about it? Is it that bad?) I am not sure about liquid cooling.
I do not want to make this complicated (the ssd and hhd), if I mixed, there will be alot of process and stuff. Maybe I will buy a 500gb SSD? At first, I was thinking about 120gb ssd with 1tb hhd. But I saw people saying if I don't download (only stream) video or big software (video editing), I do not need to waste my money on another unnecessary drive. I was thinking if I have too much stuff, I will buy a hhd later, and transfer file? (i just made that up xD) I just want to to be as cheap as possible.
 
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You can buy a 250gb hard drive, then if you run out of storage you can buy a regular HDD and just plug it in later.

The i5 and i7 are basically identical when it comes to gaming. The i7 has hyperthreading, which is useful for video/music editing and some other things, but the vast majority of games can't take advantage of it. The i5 is $100 cheaper.
 
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WAIT...
do you mean 250gb SSD? SOOOO, it's ok only with a SSD 250gb or I need to upgrade to 500gb?
Also, I want to have better cpu, so I do not need to upgrade at least 5.
 
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You'll run out of storage space much quicker than your thought :)

Better get 120/240/250GB SSD and use it for boot disk only. You'll DEFINITELY need HDD minimum of 1TB. Consider the combination if on tight budget like 120GB SSD + 1TB HDD (Consider WD Blue Caviar or Seagate 1TB Barracuda)

Believe you me that you are not considering the storage as you should be.

Like I said earlier get i5 CPU, save some bucks there and get good GPU along with proper storage capacity solution
 
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Did I said I already have a external drive? (1.5tb)
So, now do I still need HDD?
Also, I do not want to change the cpu at least for 5 years, so I was thinking to have a better one :)
 
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If you wish to use external drive as storage capacity, you may remove HDD, however internal drive operating @ 7200RPM with 64MB cache has advantage of faster rate. At the end it is your call. :)

i5 would last that much long. Anyhow, if you still want to go for i7, then go for it dear :)
 
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I would suggest Asus Hero VI. Don't think about others. I'm using Formula VI with i7. :)

Not so tough call about mobo 😉
 
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TY I decided to use asus formula
 
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Good call and good luck.
 
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So, is Formula vi had wifi (fast?) or I need to buy a PCI wifi adapter
 
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It has built-in WiFi and Bluetooth. Don't buy wifi/bluetooth adapters if you are buying formula vi
 
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