I don't see big difference in 1080p and 4K!

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Hello guys!

I don't know is it just me or is there anyone also that doesn't see big difference between 1080p and 4k.Of course I see a difference but its not so big that is worth of money for alot better or more GPUs in SLI or crossfire and 4k monitor.I prefer you guys 1080p or 1440p with 144hz!
Better option to go with 144hz monitor than 4k!
 
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It is called diminishing returns.

Once pixels drop below a certain size, we still notice some degree of picture improvement from higher resolutions but the perceived improvement becomes increasingly small. For example, going from 800p/213ppi on the N7-2012 to 1200p/323ppi on the N7-2013 is a 125% increase in pixel count but in terms of subjective image quality, it only looks 20-30% better/sharper to me.
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It is called diminishing returns.

Once pixels drop below a certain size, we still notice some degree of picture improvement from higher resolutions but the perceived improvement becomes increasingly small. For example, going from 800p/213ppi on the N7-2012 to 1200p/323ppi on the N7-2013 is a 125% increase in pixel count but in terms of subjective image quality, it only looks 20-30% better/sharper to me.
 
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what invalid error said. I'd also like to add, the smaller the screen, the smaller the effect. but lets say we have a 40 inch screen, 1080p wouldnt look good on that, we'd be able to see the pixels. it's like running 1,280 × 720 on a 20 inch screen. it just doesnt look good.

so if you have a 20 inch 1080p screen and a 20 inch 4k screen, there will be some difference in image quality, but not very noticable. so 4k realy kicks in in higher resolution. (1080p start becomming a bit bad on +23inch screens)


long sotry short. 4k will only make a big difference on bigger screens.
 
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Yeah thank you both !
I beilive 24'' 1080p is still good but 27'' I won't buy!
I was decideing between soon released 4k IPS Gsync 60hz monitor ROG SWIFT 27'' and 144hz IPS 1440p gsync 27'' monitor acer predator and AOC 24'' 1080p with 144hz g sync monitor.So I decided to save some money and buy 1080p monitor from these 3 but ill miss IPS panel :/
 
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the reason is why lose money and lose fps by higher resolution if its not very noticable I have 980 ti g1 gaming so I think it will last me for very long time lets say until directx 13 comes out on 1080p and will also have benefit from 144hz that will be good and smooth for competitive games.But I heard IPS makes very big difference in panels is it true?do you know guys?
 
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Yeah its true but I think I won't have to upgrade until dx13 I will see how the games will be demanding :)
 
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the 980ti surely is a hell of a card and it will age nicely with dx12 in the picture.

also, did you buy your 980ti already?
the next series of PSU will most probably have an enormous performance jump. perhaps you could go with a cheaper GPU till 2016.
 
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You will never be able to see the true difference between 1080 and 4k (VSR/DSR included) unless you have a 4k monitor yourself. For instance, if you own a 1080 monitor, and attempt to enable 4k resolution (YouTube for instance), not only are you going to slow down your PC because it will be downscaling in real time, but it won't look as good as on an actual 4k monitor. With that said, sharpness is directly related to viewing distance, nothing more, nothing less.

If you can't tell the difference between 1080, and 1440 X feet away, then increasing the resolution is not going to make things any better. The extra details will be completely left out, and you will be wasting computer resources on driving a much higher resolution. Also, people claim they can see the pixels, it's the pixel structure, also known as the screen door effect.

With that said, resolution is the least important spec in a monitor. Contrast, color, color saturation, etc - are far more important. Also, people seem to think that 27" is too big for 1080, really? It's inbetween 23.6" and 32", and those two are already very close to eachother... People over exaggerate a lot.



 
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I'm sure you meant GPU there.

I would not jack my hopes too high for the first generation of 16nm GPUs though since I expect them to be heavily limited by memory bandwidth. Things will become really interesting once HBM starts displacing GDDR5 but HBM going mainstream probably won't happen until 2017 if the rumors I heard about AMD and Nvidia having only one HBM design each planned for 2016 turn out to be true.
 
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This is extremely subjective.

For gaming uses, my most important spec is response time to minimize ghosting. For most of my productivity needs though, I can never have too much display space and would very much welcome a 4k 27" display to add to my current 2x1200p 24" + 1x1080p 22" setup. I only need one reasonably color-accurate display for image editing, the rest are mostly don't-care.
 
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yes I meant GPU, silly me.
the main thing is they are jumping to 16nm instead of 28. so theoreticaly speaking there will be nearly twice as many transistors which will bring alot more power with them. only time will tell I guess.
lots of exciting things have been happening since last year! it's hard to keep up wioth all of it
 
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Definitely depends on need. Obviously if you need more screen real estate, who would say no to a higher resolution, but viewing distance is still the most important, but I don't call that a spec. And yes that is my opinion on this. I should of added that resolution is the least important spec after 1080p got mainstream. Now response time, well we all probably know that it's not accurate to say the least. But response time really don't matter anymore, the monitors today are fast enough. The majority even thinks response time is input lag, so that's a huge problem if anything. My opinion don't matter at all, but response time should be completely ignored. It's an LCD, pixels are always on... Recipe for disaster. If you don't want ghosting, stick to high refresh rate monitors would be my best advice.

All the best!
 
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Pixels might be "always on" but they take several milliseconds (20-30ms for typical IPS panels, 6-7ms for some of the fastest TN panels) to go from one brightness to another and the pixel "overdrive" used by some displays to accelerate transitions sometimes causes its own share of other issues. If you drive a 25ms IPS panel at 120Hz, you will have ghosting since what is on-screen will be the blend result of the last three refresh cycles simply because the crystals physically cannot twist fast enough to update that fast..
 
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I will see how it will go I had to buy some GPU beacuse I had 8 year old GPU so I bought 980 ti from gigabyte G1 Gaming but if in 2016 really will come big performance jump GPUs I still can sell this 980 ti for not bad price I think and buy the new one I ll see :)
 
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I will see how it will go I had to buy some GPU beacuse I had 8 year old GPU so I bought 980 ti from gigabyte G1 Gaming but if in 2016 really will come big performance jump GPUs I still can sell this 980 ti for not bad price I think and buy the new one I ll see :)
 
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