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Hi all I'm a newby here and I have a Quandary.

I currently have a Acer aspire ATC 605, i5 4460 3.2, 6gb ram, geforce gt705 and it is struggling to edit my videos. I also hope to edit 4K too from my DJI Phantom drone which is painfully slow.

Do i upgrade my existing machine and what with or should soften to the idea of spending on a new build? i have the money but can't necessarily afford to spend loads?

Any advice on what I should be looking for for 4K editing and rendering quickly.

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So, that unit has only a "220w" power supply, and it's probably, mostly certainly, barely able to do that. I'd virtually guarantee that if you install anything at all beyond what you currently have, you will absolutely have problems.

Also, it seems there are issues with both the power supply form factor (ATX forum factor power supplies that are large enough to handle higher end hardware doesn't seem to fit the dimensions of the case you have. That OEM PSU is likely a proprietary form factor, although it MIGHT not be AND there are some smaller dimension ATX power supplies on the market. None of them are particularly good though that I've seen. Possibly a few smaller Silverstone units, but I'm not a major fan of Silverstone PSUs either)...
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That CPU IS strong enough for some use with video rendering and editing, but clearly something with more cores/threads would certainly be a huge benefit in that area. Also, you are hampered by having 6GB of RAM.

Not just because its a rather low amount, but also because with an oddball number like that it can not be operating in dual channel. You need sets of two or four sticks in amounts of 1 x2GB, 2 x4GB, 2 x8GB, 4 x4GB or 4 x8GB, etc, for dual channel operation and that will double the bandwith of the memory which can show a nice increase in performance especially in non-gaming applications.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-channel_memory_architecture


Your biggest setback to upgrading may actually be your case. Clearly your GPU card is too low end for the kind of performance required to viably do editing or rendering of 4k video, and being limited to 4 cores, even though they are relatively strong cores, they are 4 almost five year old cores.

I'd suggest that perhaps an upgrade to a Haswell i7 plus a fairly higher tiered graphics card, or a complete upgrade to an entirely new platform will be required to accomplish the tasks you are looking to do. That might definitely also require the inclusion of a new case to accomodate a larger graphics card, depending on what GPU card dimensions your case can support, and a larger, higher quality power supply as well.

Acer, HP, Dell, these are companies not known for including high quality power supplies with their prebuilt systems and while they might, just barely, be ok for the systems they are included with, they are definitely not adequate for upgraded or gaming systems. You must also consider that watts is not the only determining factor. There are plenty of "600w" units out there that can barely supply 250w, so the quality of the unit is a big factor and just because a unit carries a name like Corsair or Cooler Master does not mean that it is in fact a high quality unit that is capable of long term, high demand use with video or gaming systems.
 
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For digital content creation and video editing a Core i7 processor is usually the first choice.

With that system's board supporting Haswell CPUs the upgrade would be to a Core i7 4770K (or an i7 4790K if the board can support Devils's Canyon through BIOS update) which is better that current CPU but would not be a huge improvement. However, your CPU has 4 cores and 4 threads, this one has 4 cores but it can handle 8 threads. Applications that can utilize multiple-core capabilities can benefit form this.

Also for editing large videos you need more memory. I'd say at least 16GB, if the motherboard can support it. How come you have 6GB? 4+2GB or three 2GB sticks?

One more issue is proprietary systems like these don't have great PSUs. You might need to change that as well especially if you want to overclock the CPU to achieve higher performance.

If you can get a new build with relevant components it would certainly be better but it all depends on your budget.
 
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Thank you for your reply, and has given me more direction.
The memory has two slots 1X4gig and 1X2gig can't remember putting the extra two in!! My current board would accept ddr3 16gig maybe i should also try that and a good GDU if it will fit witht he view I could migrate it to a new system later. My only hesidence is that a new system may ask for ddr4 memory.

If I was to build a new system what motherboard should i consider and CPU for 4K video?
 
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So, that unit has only a "220w" power supply, and it's probably, mostly certainly, barely able to do that. I'd virtually guarantee that if you install anything at all beyond what you currently have, you will absolutely have problems.

Also, it seems there are issues with both the power supply form factor (ATX forum factor power supplies that are large enough to handle higher end hardware doesn't seem to fit the dimensions of the case you have. That OEM PSU is likely a proprietary form factor, although it MIGHT not be AND there are some smaller dimension ATX power supplies on the market. None of them are particularly good though that I've seen. Possibly a few smaller Silverstone units, but I'm not a major fan of Silverstone PSUs either)

More important than any of that though is that from looking into that unit on the Acer forums, it seems like there are serious problems with finding a card small enough to fit the case AND there are SERIOUS issues with a lack of sufficient airflow through the case to handle the cooling needs of a higher performance CPU and especially the graphics cards. Every thread I've looked at has mentioned overheating issues with graphics cards like the GTX 950 and 750 TI.

My thought on this is that you will likely need to plan on a new case, CPU, power supply and graphics card, at minimum.

Really, you probably ought to simply scrap the idea of upgrading that unit and just build an entirely new one from scratch, but I understand if financially that's not possible. It IS possible to reuse your motherboard and memory if necessary, but I don't think doing any major upgrades without a new case and power supply are advisable.
 
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220watt is tiny ..I agree with your prognosis I think I have no choice but to start afresh. I7 ver Ryzen? My poor brain

thankyou for sharing your amassed knowledge
 
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We live in France and I may be able to stretch a 1000 euro but nearer to 700 euro may prevent divorce!!!! I used to overclock years ago so may be interested in that.

Thanks
 
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Thank You for this information I suppose that would be the maximum CPU upgrade?
 
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Well, your current motherboard MIGHT support that generations i7, but I can't find any information saying it DOES. The socket would certainly support it since it's the same as your current i5, but whether or not the BIOS does, I don't know. Likely, almost certainly, it does. Never know though. Those OEM motherboards can be very specific and very finicky about what they do or do not support.

Would you want to include storage (SSD, HDD) with this or are you good regardling storage devices? Do you currently have an SSD or are you riding a HDD currently?

Do you have any preferences on case design? Window, no window, color scheme etc.?

 
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I am considering a New build for video editing in 4K currently using HHD but I understand th ssd will be faster for read writes. I don't want a case that limits the addition of extra drives internal or external so a tower with front bays and USB ect. Colour scheme well anything STARWARS is always a winner but also would like a window. My current system is painfully slow in Premier but I do have 16gig ddr3 coming for my current system to tide me over and I found a card that works in 4k RX550.
 
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