[SOLVED] I have AMD Sempron 145 processor and 4GB of RAM

[Tarjeet]

I am going to add more 4 gb of ram and 2gb of nvidia 710 Graphic Card, so it will increase my PC performance? And my motherboard is Gigabyte AM1M-S2H. i have AMD sempron 2650 APU (1.45Ghz). I wanted to play games on low setting without lag that's it. I play games like Counter strike series and Left 4 dead 2 and also Call of Duty WW. also i am in T.Y.B.C.A. so need good system to work for software and android development. i just want to know that extra 4 GB of ram and 2GB of GC will increase my PC performance. Please help me so i can buy this for now, later i will upgrade my PC.

 

[Lutfij]

List your full specs like so:
CPU:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:

In reality that processor was designed for people in low income populations that need access to basic PC functionality. When you're adding gaming to that system, you're asking the system to do something it wasn't designed to do. My answer would be no, best not to invest on older hardware and dropping more money on a system that has run it's course.

 

[Tarjeet]

List your full specs like so:
CPU:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:

In reality that processor was designed for people in low income populations that need access to basic PC functionality. When you're adding gaming to that system, you're asking the system to do something it wasn't designed to do. My answer would be no, best not to invest on older hardware and dropping more money on a system that has run it's course.

CPU: AMD Sempron 2650 APU with Radeon R3 (1.45Ghz).
Motherboard: Gigabyte AM1M-S2H.
RAM: 4GB DDR3, DRAM Frequency: 665.3MHZ, Frequency: 609MHZ.
HDD: 500GB
GPU: AMD Radeon HD 8200/R3 Series, clock Core: 200MHz, Size: 512MB.
PSU: i don't know (i have to open the case and see i guess/ but i can buy new one if needed.)
Chasis: MaxPro.
OS: Windows 7 Ult.

i can understand that this APU is not for gaming. But sir i have played many games in this and also i am using many softwares like Netbeans (currently) and also Adobe softwares for Website Dev practice & MS S/W's.
i get fps in CS: 1.6 like 40-50, in CS:Source like 40-60, and left 4 dead 2 like 20-40, Call of duty world at war runs smoothly to very less lags. Also played more good games. I know the capability of this APU that's why i am thinking to this upgrade, just not sure that it will give more performance. And done some research on internet, it say the PC will obviously boost your pc performance coz GPU takes more load then CPU. Asked many people too, some say yeah it will give performance and my friend says it wont even bottleneck. So this is the last place where i am asking so i will buy for sure if i get positive feedback in this forum. Thanks!

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I wouldnt bother upgrading that system. Adding a cheap gpu and more ram would boost performance, but to a level that will still struggle to play anything you listed. How much budget do you have to upgrade your system?

 

[Tarjeet]

I wouldnt bother upgrading that system. Adding a cheap gpu and more ram would boost performance, but to a level that will still struggle to play anything you listed. How much budget do you have to upgrade your system?

Not in condition to buy processor and motherboard. So adding GPU and RAM. I have already talked with technician it will cost 6k INR.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Its really not worth it to me. Your still going to struggle unless you want to play old games. You could run source games like tf2,half life 2, cs source. https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/pMFtdX 12kinr: for a new cpu, 8gb of 2400mhz ram, and a cheap msi a320 board
https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/pMFtdX

 

[SHMILY]

If give me 3K INR=300RMB, I can assemble a whole computer. So I advice your repalce the CPU and the motherboard.

 

[Tarjeet]

Its really not worth it to me. Your still going to struggle unless you want to play old games. You could run source games like tf2,half life 2, cs source. https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/pMFtdX 12kinr: for a new cpu, 8gb of 2400mhz ram, and a cheap msi a320 board
https://in.pcpartpicker.com/list/pMFtdX

Thanks for suggestions but i already planned what kind of parts i am going to buy, i just need an answer that GPU+RAM will give me PC performance or not.

 

[Tarjeet]

If give me 3K INR=300RMB, I can assemble a whole computer. So I advice your replace the CPU and the motherboard.

Soon i am going to change my CPU, actually i have talked with my technician, he said just buy GPU AND RAM for now according to my budget, later when you will buy processor and Motherboard it will support the GPU in the new one. I hope you understand, so for no looking forward to buy GPU and RAM for better performance..

 

[SHMILY]

I do not know the detailed price in India. But the motherboard can not support a high grade CPU. In china, a h61 or b75 ONLY cost 100RMB=1K INR. And the G540 only cost 8RMB=80 INR which is MUCH MOREstronger than your 145. And you can also buy i5-2500(220RMB) in the future.

My personnal opinion is that you would not have to add another memory. Becasue 145 can not use all 4G ram. And GT710 is too weak. Believe me, even gts250 with 512MB is stronger than GT710. I am Chinaese, I am sorry that my Engliash Is not good.

 

[Tarjeet]

I do not know the detailed price in India. But the motherboard can not support a high grade CPU. In china, a h61 or b75 ONLY cost 100RMB=1K INR. And the G540 only cost 8RMB=80 INR which is MUCH MOREstronger than your 145. And you can also buy i5-2500(220RMB) in the future.

My personnal opinion is that you would not have to add another memory. Becasue 145 can not use all 4G ram. And GT710 is too weak. Believe me, even gts250 with 512MB is stronger than GT710. I am Chinaese, I am sorry that my Engliash Is not good.

Thanks for time and comment! still i will stick at my point.

 

[cryoburner]

Those games have been out a long time, so I'm not sure you would even need the extra RAM for them. Back when Left 4 Dead 2 first came out, I ran the game on a system with only 1.5 GB of RAM, a single-core processor, and a graphics card somewhere around the performance level of that GT 710. And I originally ran CS:Source on 1GB of RAM and a slower graphics card than that. That was running WinXP though, and 7 will require more RAM for the OS, but I suspect your existing 4GB should be enough for those older games. Any games requiring more RAM than that would probably also require a more powerful CPU and GPU anyway.

I wouldn't expect any demanding recent games to be playable on the system, but older games like that might run well enough. The CPU will likely be more of a limiting factor than anything. Looking at information about it, it likely has lower per-core performance than that single-core processor I ran those games on, but double the cores, so performance might be faster in some titles and slower in others, depending on how they utilize the second core.

If your power supply were capable, a faster graphics card might allow you to increase your resolution and graphics settings, at the very least. A GT 710 is quite low-end by today's standards, and might be fine enough to run the games you listed at around 720p, but will likely struggle at any higher resolutions than that. A faster card might be preferred, though your CPU will undoubtedly limit frame rates.

 

[Tarjeet]

Those games have been out a long time, so I'm not sure you would even need the extra RAM for them. Back when Left 4 Dead 2 first came out, I ran the game on a system with only 1.5 GB of RAM, a single-core processor, and a graphics card somewhere around the performance level of that GT 710. And I originally ran CS:Source on 1GB of RAM and a slower graphics card than that. That was running WinXP though, and 7 will require more RAM for the OS, but I suspect your existing 4GB should be enough for those older games. Any games requiring more RAM than that would probably also require a more powerful CPU and GPU anyway.

I wouldn't expect any demanding recent games to be playable on the system, but older games like that might run well enough. The CPU will likely be more of a limiting factor than anything. Looking at information about it, it likely has lower per-core performance than that single-core processor I ran those games on, but double the cores, so performance might be faster in some titles and slower in others, depending on how they utilize the second core.

If your power supply were capable, a faster graphics card might allow you to increase your resolution and graphics settings, at the very least. A GT 710 is quite low-end by today's standards, and might be fine enough to run the games you listed at around 720p, but will likely struggle at any higher resolutions than that. A faster card might be preferred, though your CPU will undoubtedly limit frame rates.

Thanks for such a useful comment. Yes i know my APU is bad, and also i don't want to play games in high end a lower is enough for me. After looking at your comment i can say the GPU and RAM will give more performance.

 

[logainofhades]

Honestly, an AMD Ryzen 3 2200g, 8gb of ddr4 3000/3200, and a B450 board would be worlds better than what you are proposing, and not a very expensive venture. Dumping more money, into your current system, is a waste of money.

 

[mgallo848]

Honestly, an AMD Ryzen 3 2200g, 8gb of ddr4 3000/3200, and a B450 board would be worlds better than what you are proposing, and not a very expensive venture. Dumping more money, into your current system, is a waste of money.

I was just about to post the same thing.

A Ryzen 3 220g without having to buy a video card would crush the system you have now.

Instead of buying more ram and a GPU, see how much it would be for a Ryzen 3 2200g, 2x4 sicks of DDR4 memory and a motherboard. (no need to buy a video card for this setup)

If it's within your budget, this would be a better way to go.

 

[logainofhades]

Yea the 2200g's graphics is close to a GT 1030, and would decimate a GT 710. You also get a future upgrade path.

 

[Tarjeet]

Honestly, an AMD Ryzen 3 2200g, 8gb of ddr4 3000/3200, and a B450 board would be worlds better than what you are proposing, and not a very expensive venture. Dumping more money, into your current system, is a waste of money.

If you see the comments above i said that i talked to my technician and you can use the GPU+RAM which he is going to build for me. I am buying GPU and RAM for now 'coz of my low budget. Already planned the processor/Motherboard and PSU.

 

[logainofhades]

Sticking money into that system, is a waste of cash. Save up and get something that will actually be useful, if you are low on funds. A GT 710 never was a gaming GPU.

 

[Tarjeet]

Sticking money into that system, is a waste of cash. Save up and get something that will actually be useful, if you are low on funds. A GT 710 never was a gaming GPU.

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