Question I have built my first PC and was hoping someone could have a look at the parts to let me know whether I have optimized

Your build will work as is, but, you can do better.

1. You can buy a i5-9600K that will outperform the 7700K for some $100 less.
You will need a z370 or Z390 motherboard.

2. NH-D15 is a great cooler. But the NH-D15s offers better compatibility by being offset to clear graphics cards and tall ram.

3. Love a ssd for windows. What will the HDD be used for?
Perhaps you can defer on the HDD until you actually need the space.

4. GTX1070 is a nice card, but the new GTX1660ti is stronger and costs less.

5. all motherboards will come with a lan adapter; you do not need an extra one.
 

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Your build will work as is, but, you can do better.

1. You can buy a i5-9600K that will outperform the 7700K for some $100 less.
You will need a z370 or Z390 motherboard.

2. NH-D15 is a great cooler. But the NH-D15s offers better compatibility by being offset to clear graphics cards and tall ram.

3. Love a ssd for windows. What will the HDD be used for?
Perhaps you can defer on the HDD until you actually need the space.

4. GTX1070 is a nice card, but the new GTX1660ti is stronger and costs less.

5. all motherboards will come with a lan adapter; you do not need an extra one.
If I think that I'll end up using a lot of storage, should I not get a HDD for that, too?

Would this work as the GPU then:

EVGA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti XC Black Gaming, 6GB GDDR6, HDB Fan Graphics Card 06G-P4-1261-KR
(https://www.amazon.co.uk/EVGA-GeForce-Gaming-Graphics-06G-P4-1261-KR/dp/B07NQGB82C/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=nvidia+1660ti&qid=1552841136&s=gateway&sr=8-1)
 
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500gb will hold quite a large number of games.
My thought is that it is trivial to install a HDD later for bulk storage like videos.
Over time the price/performance of parts gets better so a better strategy is to buy when you need something.

With ssd prices down, why not consider a 1tb drive up front?

One other thing, you had no price on the Z270 motherboard.
Do you own it??
If you must use z270, the 9600K and such will be incompatible.
 

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500gb will hold quite a large number of games.
My thought is that it is trivial to install a HDD later for bulk storage like videos.
Over time the price/performance of parts gets better so a better strategy is to buy when you need something.

With ssd prices down, why not consider a 1tb drive up front?

One other thing, you had no price on the Z270 motherboard.
Do you own it??
If you must use z270, the 9600K and such will be incompatible.
That makes sense.

As for the fan, I tried to choose a decent sized case to avoid such inconveniences, but if I was to change over to the NH-D15s, wouldn't that cause a noticeable difference in some cases?

If I were to go for this: (https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Z370-P-LGA1151-Gigabit-Motherboard/dp/B07HFQDX75/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=asus+z370&qid=1552843896&s=computers&sr=1-3) as my mobo and the i5-9400 as my CPU, would it be an issue?
 
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If you are set for spendin $300+ for a CPU. You should look to get a 8700K at the very least, it not a 9700K. And a RTX2060 would slot in for the $350 GPU and would be a an measurable upgrade over a GTX1070

See:
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/3937vs3647
And the 8700K can be had for $320 here:
https://www.microcenter.com/product/486088/core-i7-8700k-coffee-lake-37-ghz-lga-1151-boxed-processor

See:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487435&Description=rtx 2060&cm_re=rtx_2060-_-14-487-435-_-Product
 
There is no noticeable difference in performance or price between the NH-D15 and the NH-D15s.
The benefit of the s is that it is a tad better for compatibility since it is 5cm shorter which is not an issue in your case.
The s is offset because some graphics cards mounted in the first pcie x16 slot will have backplates that are impacted by some coolers.

There is a very big difference between the i5-9400 and the i5 9600K.
The latter can be overclocked to 5.0 and is a much stronger processor.

Have you shopped for a smaller M-ATX motherboard like the ASUS Prime Z390M-Plus ?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Prime-LGA1151-Gigabit-Motherboard/dp/B07HRWN6TH/ref=sr_1_3?crid=QZMPO7895EME&keywords=asus+z390+motherboard&qid=1552863164&s=computers&sprefix=asus+z390,computers,236&sr=1-3&th=1

The main difference is that M-ATX has only 4 expansion slots vs. 7 for a full ATX motherboard.
Past the graphics card, just how many might you ever use?
 

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There is no noticeable difference in performance or price between the NH-D15 and the NH-D15s.
The benefit of the s is that it is a tad better for compatibility since it is 5cm shorter which is not an issue in your case.
The s is offset because some graphics cards mounted in the first pcie x16 slot will have backplates that are impacted by some coolers.

There is a very big difference between the i5-9400 and the i5 9600K.
The latter can be overclocked to 5.0 and is a much stronger processor.

Have you shopped for a smaller M-ATX motherboard like the ASUS Prime Z390M-Plus ?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-Prime-LGA1151-Gigabit-Motherboard/dp/B07HRWN6TH/ref=sr_1_3?crid=QZMPO7895EME&keywords=asus+z390+motherboard&qid=1552863164&s=computers&sprefix=asus+z390,computers,236&sr=1-3&th=1

The main difference is that M-ATX has only 4 expansion slots vs. 7 for a full ATX motherboard.
Past the graphics card, just how many might you ever use?
Thanks for that MOBO suggestion.

Would the change in CPU warrant further changes to my build?
I don't plan on overclocking, but would the performance drop off be so great that I should consider otherwise?
 
It is not clear to me what your proposed cpu change would be.
The i5-9600K is an outstanding processor.
You need not overclock, but it is so easy to do that you should keep that option open.
It is as simple as raising the multipiler in the bios from the default 37 to a higher number like 45.
The 9xxx processors have soldered heat spreaders (compared to 8xxx and 7xxx) which makes them run cooler.

Some games are cpu limited and some are graphics limited.
Rarely do any games make effective use of more than 4 threads.

I think you are pointing to the GTX1660ti which my reading says is a very good value and appropriate card for you.
 

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It is not clear to me what your proposed cpu change would be.
The i5-9600K is an outstanding processor.
You need not overclock, but it is so easy to do that you should keep that option open.
It is as simple as raising the multipiler in the bios from the default 37 to a higher number like 45.
The 9xxx processors have soldered heat spreaders (compared to 8xxx and 7xxx) which makes them run cooler.

Some games are cpu limited and some are graphics limited.
Rarely do any games make effective use of more than 4 threads.

I think you are pointing to the GTX1660ti which my reading says is a very good value and appropriate card for you.
Sorry for not clarifying, I was referring to the I5 -9400, due to budget issues. I was simply wondering whether the drop off would warrant me waiting to try get something better?
 
The i5-9400 is a very good gamer.
Perhaps it depends on if you will upgrade your cpu in the future.
I5-9400 has a passmark rating of 12133 and a single thread rating of 2380.
By comparison, the $250 i5-9600K has a rating of 13473/2684. Primarily because it can be overclocked with a Z370 or Z390 motherboard.
If you are unlikely to upgrade to an overclockable K suffix 9th gen processor, your build cost can go down with a B300 series motherboard.

You are asking about worth and you need to decide that.
My feeling is that if you spend a bit more for something good, the price hurts for a little while.
If you settle for less than what you want, you will forever wonder.
Can you post a link to your current build thinking?
Perhaps there are some ways to economize.
 

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