[SOLVED] i need extreme help! xmp not working,bsod,games losing frames, overall slower performance after installing additional 16gb of ram

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ok so i bought 8gb of corsair vengeance ram cards identical to the two i already had in my rig, same speed and brand 3600mhz. xmp worked fine on the first two but when i use all 4 it only works without xmp enabled and still seems slower. also i tested gameplay on destiny 2 but frames were dropping like crazy i have no idea what to do. and a sidenote: speccy shows that my ram is running at 1599MHz

my system specs are:
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
Ryzen 9 5900x
RAM
32.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1599MHz (18-22-22-42)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI) (AM4) 37 °C
Graphics
LC27G5xT (2560x1440@144Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti (EVGA) 40 °C
Storage
931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102 (SATA ) 32 °C
465GB Western Digital WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0 (Unknown (SSD))
 
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ok so i bought 8gb of corsair vengeance ram cards identical to the two i already had in my rig, same speed and brand 3600mhz. xmp worked fine on the first two but when i use all 4 it only works without xmp enabled and still seems slower. also i tested gameplay on destiny 2 but frames were dropping like crazy i have no idea what to do. and a sidenote: speccy shows that my ram is running at 1599MHz

my system specs are:
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
Ryzen 9 5900x
RAM
32.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1599MHz (18-22-22-42)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI) (AM4) 37 °C
Graphics
LC27G5xT (2560x1440@144Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti (EVGA) 40 °C
Storage
931GB...
ok so i bought 8gb of corsair vengeance ram cards identical to the two i already had in my rig, same speed and brand 3600mhz. xmp worked fine on the first two but when i use all 4 it only works without xmp enabled and still seems slower. also i tested gameplay on destiny 2 but frames were dropping like crazy i have no idea what to do. and a sidenote: speccy shows that my ram is running at 1599MHz

my system specs are:
Operating System
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
CPU
Ryzen 9 5900x
RAM
32.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1599MHz (18-22-22-42)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. TUF GAMING X570-PRO (WI-FI) (AM4) 37 °C
Graphics
LC27G5xT (2560x1440@144Hz)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti (EVGA) 40 °C
Storage
931GB Seagate ST1000DM003-1SB102 (SATA ) 32 °C
465GB Western Digital WDS500G1X0E-00AFY0 (Unknown (SSD))
Pairing two separate kits is not guaranteed to work in XMP. Ryzen is more fussy with memory, also good luck getting 4 DIM's to work at 3600Mhz on Ryzen. What I would do personally, is just configure the memory manually to run at a lower speed than 3600Mhz like 3000Mhz and see if that's stable. That of course is assuming that the system is perfectly stable when XMP is disabled.
 
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Pairing two separate kits is not guaranteed to work in XMP. Ryzen is more fussy with memory, also good luck getting 4 DIM's to work at 3600Mhz on Ryzen. What I would do personally, is just configure the memory manually to run at a lower speed than 3600Mhz like 3000Mhz and see if that's stable. That of course is assuming that the system is perfectly stable when XMP is disabled.
ill try that too but when i do it manual do i still select the docp profile and just set it to 3000mz and then 1500hz for the fclk frequency?
 
i should add that i also bought a evga 3080ti brand new and even after taking the two new sticks out of my build completely im getting way more fram drops than i had when using 16gb 3600hz with my old 2060 super
 
ill try that too but when i do it manual do i still select the docp profile and just set it to 3000mz and then 1500hz for the fclk frequency?
I haven't used an Asus board in a very long time, if DOCP is the same as XMP on an Asus board then no. I would configure everything manually, so DRAM voltage to 1.35v, frequency to 3200Mhz and punch in the timings that you have for when the RAM runs at 3600Mhz. I use Gigabyte so unfortunately wouldn't know exactly where to send you.

I've seen other people have this problem though, they got away with 3200Mhz so I'd give that a go first. Your 3080 Ti underperforming is a separate issue, I've seen a few people complaining about the same thing actually recently. I can't remember how they solved it though.
 
I haven't used an Asus board in a very long time, if DOCP is the same as XMP on an Asus board then no. I would configure everything manually, so DRAM voltage to 1.35v, frequency to 3200Mhz and punch in the timings that you have for when the RAM runs at 3600Mhz. I use Gigabyte so unfortunately wouldn't know exactly where to send you.

I've seen other people have this problem though, they got away with 3200Mhz so I'd give that a go first. Your 3080 Ti underperforming is a separate issue, I've seen a few people complaining about the same thing actually recently. I can't remember how they solved it though.
alright thanks ill try that. and i guess i need to figure out whats causing my gpu to underperform
 
3200Mhz is officially supported so you may be able to get slightly higher than 3000Mhz. When you say it was the GPU and CPU the main hinderance what do you mean?
when trying to test on destiny 2 my frames were dropping super hard it wasnt even close to the performance when using my 2060 super. which is confusing me since its a significantly better card that i brought brand new at that. and when i looked on userbenchmark it said that both the cpu and gpu were underperforming so it made me think that they were the reasonings for my loss of frames
 
when trying to test on destiny 2 my frames were dropping super hard it wasnt even close to the performance when using my 2060 super. which is confusing me since its a significantly better card that i brought brand new at that. and when i looked on userbenchmark it said that both the cpu and gpu were underperforming so it made me think that they were the reasonings for my loss of frames
Oh ok, but on your current userbenchmark scores both look fine?
 
no on userbenchmark its showing that they are underperforming
It doesn't look like the CPU is under performing by much. I don't use userbenchmark personally so I don't really know how to judge the scores.

I primarily use Cinebench R23 to test CPU's and 3DMARK for the GPU. Ok I just ran it on mine, I have an Nvidia 3080. Mine gets 209% so it does look like your GPU is underperforming.

Did you do a clean install of the GPU drivers when you switched the cards?
What PSU do you have, and did you plug in two separate cables from the PSU or did you plug in two connectors from one cable? The latter is a big no no.

Also I would recommend running MEMTEST64 to check your memory is stable now:
 
It doesn't look like the CPU is under performing by much. I don't use userbenchmark personally so I don't really know how to judge the scores.

I primarily use Cinebench R23 to test CPU's and 3DMARK for the GPU. Ok I just ran it on mine, I have an Nvidia 3080. Mine gets 209% so it does look like your GPU is underperforming.

Did you do a clean install of the GPU drivers when you switched the cards?
What PSU do you have, and did you plug in two separate cables from the PSU or did you plug in two connectors from one cable? The latter is a big no no.

Also I would recommend running MEMTEST64 to check your memory is stable now:
oh wait i thought i was supposed to fill in every gap when plugging in the cables. i plugged in two seperate ones but i did plug in both sides of the second cable
 
one of the cables were able to fill two 8pin slots
So normally the 8 pin power cables coming from the PSU have two 8 pin conmectors on them.

You cant plug both of them into the two 8 pin sockets on the GPU beacuse the 3080 demands too much power.

You instead need two cables coming from the GPU and to plug just one 8 pin connector from each into the GPU.

It would certainly explain why the GPU isnt performing properly.

Hope that makes sense, anyway off to bed. Let us know what model your PSU is.
 
So normally the 8 pin power cables coming from the PSU have two 8 pin conmectors on them.

You cant plug both of them into the two 8 pin sockets on the GPU beacuse the 3080 demands too much power.

You instead need two cables coming from the GPU and to plug just one 8 pin connector from each into the GPU.

It would certainly explain why the GPU isnt performing properly.

Hope that makes sense, anyway off to bed. Let us know what model your PSU is.
corsiar rm850 850w gold and when i only plug in two connectors the open slot lights up red. and do the 6pin with the 2pin connected to it count as an 8pin as well?
 
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