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To start with it's worth mentioning I'm completely new to overclocking and most of it baffles me. I've been trying a lot of things to get my RAM to 3600mhz as that's why I bought it but I could really use some help. Reading around it may actually be better to stop at 3200 or 3400 and aim for lowest latency or something but I have no idea so if I'm wrong aiming for 3600 then please guide me in getting the RAM in it's best place.
I have a b450 Tomahawk Max with a Ryzen 5 3600x processor. As far as I know, they should be fine for getting 3600mhz.
My RAM is Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3600MHz Kit. Says on the RAM CL18 and 1.35V. Patriot support tells me my RAM sticks are Samsung B-Die after I sent them a pic of the RAM label. I asked after reading comments saying it was Hynix CJR or something. It seemed based on review on both the amazon page and found elsewhere that the RAM was actually really good, worked a charm and other people with even the same setup as me more or less have had success although they probably know what they're doing
Now I'll run through the stuff I tried as best I remember it.
First was just using the optimised defaults of my BIOS and turning on A-XMP. I tried profiles 1 and 2 but both meant by PC wouldn't even boot and needed a CMOS clear. I did this by taking out the Mobo battery.
Then I tried using the DRAM calculator and phaiphoon but that also ended up with a CMOS clear.
Next I tried some advice from Patriot Support. This included making sure RAM was in the right place (It is of course), BIOS was up to date (It wasn't but is now of course), using optomised defaults and XMP (I did this again just incase and still needed CMOS), then working my way up with defaults from 2400 mhz. I got to around 3400mhz before I started getting a freeze at boot or a BSOD. 3200mhz seemed to be fine using just basic XMP. I did try messing with some voltages here but it was hard to be sure on many, I mostly tried just DRAM voltage up at 1.35 to 1.45 but still just BSOD on 3400mhz.
Patriot support then asked me to try some profiles. I continues to use defaults except what they asked me to change here:
So then I went on a bigger adventure. I made use of this guide https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md to try and get somewhere. I tried to follow as much of it as I understood and was comfortable to do. This includes:
All of "Finding a Baseline", again, stable until about 3200mhz. Now though I was trying the timings recommended in the guide and changing some voltages like DRAM and SOC. I did see some for VPPD and VPPG but wasn't entirely sure what to change these to. I didn't touch CPU voltages at all or anything to do with my CPU really. I tried setting things like FLCK to half RAM frequency and so on although some settings in the BIOS made little sense to me. Even choosing to edit SOC required me to first set something else to AMD Overclock or something like that.
I might have missed some stuff. Over the past few days I've tried a lot of combinations, even tried with the Game Boost on but that seemed to make things 2T which I believe is bad? And I still BSOD'd during a stress test anyway for 3400mhz.
It has all been incredibly complicated and I'm struggling and confused. Been trying for days now and so I've came to the experts. Any help is appreciated and I'll provide any other info I can and try recommendations and so on.
As a side note, I did use OCCT to stress the ram at 3200 mhz as mentioned in the guide, I've also done a memtest86 USB thing to check the RAM is okay at bios defaults and I have AIDA64 for benchmarking if needed. I do have Ryzen Master but read more things saying to just do everything in BIOS and just use it for reading timings or something. No idea how to use it anyway!
Thanks again for any help!
I have a b450 Tomahawk Max with a Ryzen 5 3600x processor. As far as I know, they should be fine for getting 3600mhz.
My RAM is Viper Steel Series DDR4 32GB (2 x 16GB) 3600MHz Kit. Says on the RAM CL18 and 1.35V. Patriot support tells me my RAM sticks are Samsung B-Die after I sent them a pic of the RAM label. I asked after reading comments saying it was Hynix CJR or something. It seemed based on review on both the amazon page and found elsewhere that the RAM was actually really good, worked a charm and other people with even the same setup as me more or less have had success although they probably know what they're doing
Now I'll run through the stuff I tried as best I remember it.
First was just using the optimised defaults of my BIOS and turning on A-XMP. I tried profiles 1 and 2 but both meant by PC wouldn't even boot and needed a CMOS clear. I did this by taking out the Mobo battery.
Then I tried using the DRAM calculator and phaiphoon but that also ended up with a CMOS clear.
Next I tried some advice from Patriot Support. This included making sure RAM was in the right place (It is of course), BIOS was up to date (It wasn't but is now of course), using optomised defaults and XMP (I did this again just incase and still needed CMOS), then working my way up with defaults from 2400 mhz. I got to around 3400mhz before I started getting a freeze at boot or a BSOD. 3200mhz seemed to be fine using just basic XMP. I did try messing with some voltages here but it was hard to be sure on many, I mostly tried just DRAM voltage up at 1.35 to 1.45 but still just BSOD on 3400mhz.
Patriot support then asked me to try some profiles. I continues to use defaults except what they asked me to change here:
- 3466MHz (18-26-26-46) 1.4v
- 3466MHz (18-26-26-46) 1.45v
- 3466MHz (20-26-26-46) 1.4v
- 3466MHz (20-26-26-46) 1.45v
So then I went on a bigger adventure. I made use of this guide https://github.com/integralfx/MemTestHelper/blob/master/DDR4 OC Guide.md to try and get somewhere. I tried to follow as much of it as I understood and was comfortable to do. This includes:
All of "Finding a Baseline", again, stable until about 3200mhz. Now though I was trying the timings recommended in the guide and changing some voltages like DRAM and SOC. I did see some for VPPD and VPPG but wasn't entirely sure what to change these to. I didn't touch CPU voltages at all or anything to do with my CPU really. I tried setting things like FLCK to half RAM frequency and so on although some settings in the BIOS made little sense to me. Even choosing to edit SOC required me to first set something else to AMD Overclock or something like that.
I might have missed some stuff. Over the past few days I've tried a lot of combinations, even tried with the Game Boost on but that seemed to make things 2T which I believe is bad? And I still BSOD'd during a stress test anyway for 3400mhz.
It has all been incredibly complicated and I'm struggling and confused. Been trying for days now and so I've came to the experts. Any help is appreciated and I'll provide any other info I can and try recommendations and so on.
As a side note, I did use OCCT to stress the ram at 3200 mhz as mentioned in the guide, I've also done a memtest86 USB thing to check the RAM is okay at bios defaults and I have AIDA64 for benchmarking if needed. I do have Ryzen Master but read more things saying to just do everything in BIOS and just use it for reading timings or something. No idea how to use it anyway!
Thanks again for any help!
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