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So I need help finding a new build... My goal was to keep the combined amount of all of these things under $500: Mother Board, CPU, GPU, Ram, and case....
My plan was to get:
Motherboard- MSI970gaming
CPU- Fx-6300
GPU- MSI RX-480
Ram- 16 gb (2x8) rpijaws ddr3 240pin
Case- Deepcool Kendoman

New Egg canceled the bundles and deals before my check came in, so now instead of costing $460, that build will cost around $550-$570
Can you help me make a new build? I am completely lost and disappointed.
I am not up to date on all the new hardware so I need help...
Thank you.


Edit: I am doing tons of research but I am getting lost in what makes the 8300's better than the 6300's, especially what makes a good mobo... Ram is easy for me to understand as well as GPU..... I am also kind of set on the RX 480 gpu, but if someone convinces me otherwise I will listen.
 
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Couple issues I see-
That B150 supports xfire (and it has a few extra perks, but not many, it's still a pretty cheap motherboard), and you have a 1060 in there. 1060s don't support SLI, so I would drop that B150 down to a cheaper B150 board.
You're getting a single 8GB DIMM with a nearly $70 case. In a build of $550, $70 is around 13% of your total budget. It should never breach 10%, unless you really have money to throw around on a beast build (which at that point... I still wouldn't suggest). The difference between that case and getting a cheaper case means you get 16GB of RAM.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/MappingPrice2012.aspx?ComboID=Combo.3135673 $427.99 in cart...
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($46.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($41.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Mini Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $417.74
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 19:46 EST-0500
 
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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vMfvD8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vMfvD8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 3GB 3GB Mini Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman ZM-T4 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($32.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $459.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 19:46 EST-0500

Could easily swap the 3g 1060 for a 4g 480.
 
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Wait for a few days, AMD is launching their new "Zen" cpu's in January and they are presenting them to the public in a couple of days, so by waiting you shall either gain a NEW good cpu architecture for the new build or if you still going to use the old ones will receive a massive drop in price.
 
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Ibian, thank you for the insight, but the money for this build is only made possible thanks to christmas, so waiting a few days is not an option 🙁
I could not afford this build from my pocket alone.
 
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In the eyes of an i3, no it is not. A more expensive is better with FX chips as it unlocks the possibility of heavy overclocking, which is where these chips shine. Unfortunately, they are EOL, and have no upgrade paths. The i3 does not have an easy route to overclock as Intel's K CPUs or AMD's Black edition CPUs do, so overclocking is not as much of an imperative. Thus, choosing a cheaper motherboard will still unlock the potential of the hardware going on to it without compromising it.

There is more to more expensive motherboards than simply overclocking, but at your budget level, all of the boards you're looking at will be barebones without much difference.
 
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Thank you, my main goal is to get a mobo, that allows for crossfire or sli, and the ability to upgrade through time...
That is why I was set on the rx480, due to the price and the potential of a OC crossfire build...6
 
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PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jD288K
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jD288K/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte G1.Sniper B7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($85.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 480 4GB Red Dragon Video Card ($191.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill Galaxy-03 ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Total: $492.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 20:10 EST-0500

More expensive because I chose an ATX board and a mid tower... Chose the cheapest 4g 480. I will say this: Crossfiring a set of 480s is not a bad idea down the road (although by that time there might be a better single card solution). Crossfiring a set of 4g 480s will likely (by the time you choose to) be a bad idea. By the time you choose to upgrade, the 4gb of VRam could very well be a limiting factor.
 
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Thank you so much for your help, for some reason I just can't stop thinking the i-3 is a bad cpu... (I know I am probably being very idiotic, but every intel cpu that has been in my laptops have had problems after a year or two...)
This is what I have recently thought of, do you like this set up?

CPU: AMD fx-6300
Motherboard: Ga-970a-ud3p
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8gb (2x4gb)
Video card: Power Colore Rx-480 4gb,
Case: Cooler Maser HAF 912

This build comes out to $461
If I find a 8gb on sale I can potentially get the 8gb and stay under 500... :) I am scared of it being outdated now 😛
 
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The i3 is a sideways move to the 6xxx series, with upgrade paths to the i5 and i7 series. The 6xxx series has a single upgrade path which in all honesty... is not much of an upgrade path in the gaming world. In many games, the i3 will outperform any FX processor thrown at it due to the much higher single core performance of all of Intel's CPUs. Any of Intel's CPUs at this moment in time are better than AMD's CPUs. The issues I see with that build in comparison to the one above are that:
-AMD currently has no support for PCIe 3.0, and does not unlock the full potential of your GPU
-The FX 6300 has 1 upgrade which in many cases won't end up with much net performance gain in the 8350.
-There is only 8GB of RAM in that build.
Now, in comparison to the one I posted
-The i3 is a sideways move to an FX 6300
-The i3 has upgrades to both the i5 and i7 which both improve performance substantially in gaming.
-Intel supports PCIe 3.0
-You get 16GB of RAM instead of 8GB
-But, it is $30 more expensive.
Personally, for what you're getting with the newer technology, the $30 is worth it.

As for it being outdated, depending on when you want to crossfire there may already be a newer, better single card solution on the market, for the same/comparable price. At that point, you can upgrade to the single card in lieu of the crossfire solution.

There's a reason that Nvidia took off crossfire from the 1060. These types of cards aren't meant to be crossfired (look at the pot calling the kettle black) due to their price range. With the money dumped into two cards, you could've had a single card solution that was very comparable to the two cards that you would've bought... without the issues of "Oh, does this game support crossfire? Does this game have good scaling? How much do I have to fiddle with my settings to get this to work with both cards?".
 
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With all of that taken into account...
If we go back to mATX board, and go mega-cheap on a case that will essentially just meet your needs, you can fit in either a 6GB 1060 or an 8GB 480 into the build. Looking at PCPP, the cheapest NON REFERENCE design for each of these cards is $240, so I left the 1060 in there.
PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MDFsVY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MDFsVY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M Pro-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($57.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Avexir Core Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Mini Video Card ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($19.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $497.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-12 22:24 EST-0500
As a bit of a follow up question... is there a reason you are not getting either an HDD or a PSU, yet are getting a new case?
 
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thank you so much for your in depth response and you have honestly convinced me to go your build route instead of mine :)
I already have an Hdd in my current pc (Asus essentio)
And a friend told me that I could have his corsair 700w ps (since I gave him my league account a few years back).
The reason I am getting a case, is because I don't think this asus case could cool the new parts efficiently enough since it already has issues cooling my current stock setup...
 
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Taking that into account (which is something I actually forgot) I would go with the Rosewill FBM-01 instead of the SRM. A lot of the reviews have complaints on the SRM for inadequate case cooling (somewhat expected, but the FBM case at least comes stock with two fans).

Edit: Just looked at the edit to your OP. The 8xxx series is better than the 6xxx series as they (generally) come with higher base clock frequencies, and have 8 cores in lieu of the 6 in the 6xxx series. As for the motherboard, there are various things that get added in as "extras" like more USB slots, more USB 3.0 slots, USB 3.1 support, better onboard audio, more PCIe slots (PCIex16, PCIex4, PCIe) which you typically see in full ATX boards. The major feature in "better" motherboards relates to their VRMs. Nicer boards have a better power phase design to feed voltage to your CPU. More phases = better temperature regulation, better temperature regulation = more overclocking headroom. That, and nice boards typically look prettier.
 
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With attempting to stretch your budget as far as possible, I wouldn't say that's worth it. If need be, you can get 3 packs of (albeit bad) fans for ~$10. Which still puts the price of either of those cases below the kendoman. But, I would wait to get whatever case you have to check how many fan slots you have and to check if you even need to purchase any more.
 
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Not a fan of the 6400 when the 6500 is so much better... http://www.newegg.com/Product/MappingPrice2012.aspx?ComboID=Combo.3135673 take this... grab this... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820011114&cm_re=16gb_ddr4-_-20-011-114-_-Product. Again, $30 more expensive, and puts you right up to that $500 line, but you get the i5 6500 over the 6400, which has a large improvement in base clock frequency, and instead of being close to the $500 line with an i3, you're close to the $500 line with a quality i5. It is definitely worth that $30. I'm not a fan of getting an H110 over a B150, but it's not so consequential. I'd take that.
 
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That's for a 6600k and unless you buy a nicer motherboard the potential of the CPU is going to squandered, so I wouldn't if I were you. The majority of that "deal" comes from getting free games. If you were already going to buy those games, then you might as well go with it as that's $100 that you were going to spend on games that you could instead spend on the machine, but if you weren't going to buy those games, I wouldn't get it.
 
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Couple issues I see-
That B150 supports xfire (and it has a few extra perks, but not many, it's still a pretty cheap motherboard), and you have a 1060 in there. 1060s don't support SLI, so I would drop that B150 down to a cheaper B150 board.
You're getting a single 8GB DIMM with a nearly $70 case. In a build of $550, $70 is around 13% of your total budget. It should never breach 10%, unless you really have money to throw around on a beast build (which at that point... I still wouldn't suggest). The difference between that case and getting a cheaper case means you get 16GB of RAM.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/MappingPrice2012.aspx?ComboID=Combo.3135673 $427.99 in cart
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820011110 $40.99 in cart
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353056&cm_re=case-_-11-353-056-_-Product $27.98 in cart
Total: $498.96
You get everything from Newegg, you get an i5 instead of the i3, you still get a (fairly) nice looking case (maybe not as nice functionally as the S340, but it's what you get for the money), you still get the 1060. And it's $50 cheaper. Better pc, less money. Honestly, on a budget, that's a no brainer for me. Especially when you're on the budget you're on. If you weren't on such a tight budget, then you could certainly switch and swap with colors to make things look nice. But where you currently are, stretching your money to get the most mileage out of your machine is what you want to do, not stretch your money to make it look pretty with a white motherboard + white case.

And just to point out, for still less money, you can upgrade that AVEXIR Core to a set of 2x8 DIMMs, and still be under the budget of the one you're eyeing in that PCPP.
 
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