Question I think I may have broken my motherboard ?

yanna1

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Hi,

I put together my old system to hand over to my son. I bought a new ssd and the other parts are around 3-5 years old.

I got everything put back together perfectly and installed windows 11. I let Windows do its updates and I was feeling pretty good about my self. Things went so well I thought I would update the BIOS from F40 to F67b.

I used q-flash through the bios and everything seemed to work fine. It got to 100% and it said "the system will now restart" It did exactly that but now I am stuck on the Aorus Splash screen and I have a red VGA light on the motherboard.

It just show the logo with the options along the bottom are
Del:bios setup/q-flash
F9:system information
F12: Boot menu
end:Q-flash

I try using the keyboard to select an option but nothing happens. I just cant get passed this screen or into the bios.

Things I have tried....
New HDMI cable
GPU in another pc(works fine)
Tried another 8 pin cable

Does anyone have any ideas or have I just bricked my motherboard? :(


AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Gigabyte B450 AORUS M
Corsair 16GB (2x 8GB) 3200Mhz DDR4 Vengeance
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Super
PSU - 650w Seasonic Focus Plus Gold(5 year old)
Crucial BX500
 
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Lutfij

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You forgot to mention the make and model of your PSU and it's age. Clear the CMOS. In order to do so, you disconnect from the wall and display, then remove the CMOS battery, press and hold down the power button for 30secs and replace the battery after 30mins.
 

yanna1

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Attached the wee internal speaker and I get a single beep. Guess that's a good sign but I am still stuck on the bios flash screen. No matter how many times I hit the delete key I still can't get into the bios. Tried all the other usual keys and confirmed the keyboard is working but I can't get any further on.
 
Personally, given the VGA light I would first try a low-powered GPU in one of the PCIe 2.0 slots. It can be really old and slow but best if it doesn't require auxiliary power. Then I would try different USB ports for the keyboard (especially the USB 2.0 ones) or even a PS/2 keyboard, as you have a PS/2 port. Leave the SSD disconnected during troubleshooting as the now default BIOS settings may not be what the system was installed with, + you only want to enter the BIOS for now and not accidentally load Windows.

Your board has dual-BIOS with two actual BIOS chips, so you can look up the datasheet for those chips to determine which pins to short or lift to disable the primary BIOS and boot to the backup--normally it automatically goes to the backup if a problem with the primary is detected (like no firmware being in it), but if the primary looks good and begins to load only to crash afterwards, well that's where it will get stuck.

Once there, you can reconnect the primary on the running system and try flashing the new F67d BIOS that just came out to it. Usually the manufacturer flash tools will only flash the primary BIOS chip while booted to the backup chip. Good luck!
 

yanna1

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Thank you for getting back to me with some good suggestions. I don't have to hand a lower powered GPU but I may be able to get a keyboard with the ps/2 port connection.

I was wondering that maybe the back bios is kicking in automatically. I'm sure some B450 motherboards required a bios update for the Ryzen 3000 series. Maybe the back up bios is that old that it doesn't support the CPU anymore and I would need an older CPU to update the bios to one that supports the 3000 series. Does this sound possible? However because I actually get to the flash screen would that rule that out. Also no motherboard CPU light is on just VGA.

Thanks
 

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So I tried out one of those PS/2 adapter today. Still the same result :(

I have since purchased an actual PS/2 keyboard because I read that the adapters can be a bit hit or miss. Will try that before deciding to chuck the mobo and get a new one. Its just so frustrating, I can see the splash screen with the options to enter the bios but I just cant selected any of the options.
 

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Hi, Tried a PS/2 keyboard but still not working. Just as a recap...

*Rebuilt my old pc and installed windows 11 with out any problems. Everything worked perfect.
*Stupidly thought I should update the bios as it was quite far behind the latest version( F40 to F67b)

Pc restarted after update and now I am stuck on bios splash screen with logo and 4 options to chose from but I cant seem to selected any of them because it wont recognise any keyboard. The VGA light is also on the motherboard.

Tried swapping cables, HDMI, display ports, gpu power cables.

Tried wireless, cabled and PS/2 keyboard(none worked)

Tried my gpu in another pc and it works fine.

Striped down and rebuild the pc outside the case with the exact same results

Just before I call it quits and bin the motherboard is there any last suggestions? There was no sign that the bios updated failed and if it did would I still be getting the splash screen?

Thank you

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There's a significant number of posts out there across the internet where people have bricked this specific board doing a BIOS update, and no real solutions despite the backup. Given that I wouldn't blame yourself. Unless you have a previous generation CPU you can try, you'll probably just have to bin it/sell it on eBay as BIOS bricked (some people like a challenge) and get a replacement.