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Ofcourse.Can i include both of them in my buget? Because I am 15 and i don t have a source to make money and i don t have a high buget.
You sure that SF will fit? Looks more like a TFX PSU in the Lenovo.Have you considered just getting a SF (E.g. Corsair SF650) power supply and also this cable? https://www.moddiy.com/products/IBM-Lenovo-PSU-Main-Power-24-Pin-to-10-Pin-Adapter-Cable-30cm.html
Shady 'import' company. Buyer beware. I would expect that power supply to catch fire at some point...https://www.portable-adapter.com/lenovo-power-supply/FSP450-20TGBAB-adapter/3361
According to them, it fits. Bolts right on without needs for adapters and includes a 6pin pcie for gpu.
If they even are FSP--that's the problem. This is why I only get genuine parts for these situations, and if an upgrade isn't available, it's a tougher road.Actually those FSP built units are pretty decent, considering they are OEM for HP and Lenovo. Not exactly Corsair quality, but for budget use and an only available fit, having something OEM is better than nothing.
I'm not talking about stupid gamer labels. I'm talking about manufacturers like Lenovo, Dell, and HP. Those genuine parts pass the qc of the manufactur's specs regardless of who makes it. And because the actual manufacturer doesn't want to gamble with multi-million dollar contracts, they won't be doing shady stuff. 'Compatibles' are whatever quality the true manufacturer wants it to be, which is usually strip out all the good stuff and sell it for 60% of the same price as genuine. It's the same in auto parts--genuine Toytota/Honda/Nissan parts are 10x better than the aftermarket even when made by the same company. Why? Because Toytota/Honda/Nissan specs are higher than the manufacturer's who has to do something (cut corners) to bring the price down. I know this because I used to own a parts distribution warehouse, and it's all the same in every industry around the world--computers are no exception.Genuine parts? Phew, that's rough considering everything is made by someone else. Whom do you think makes Corsair psus? FSP? GreatWall? Seasonic? Flextronics? Chicony? CWT? Not Corsair. Not a single unit is actually made by them. And that's the same route almost every vendor takes from the cheapest to most expensive units.
Whom do you think makes OEM psus for the 3rd party vendors like HP, Lenovo etc? Seasonic? GreatWall? Chicony? Delta? FSP? CWT? SuperFlower?
You could consider an FSP psu more Genuine than a branded named psu just based on the fact its a OEM platform using OEM specs, not changed design specs of existing platforms to suit the buyers wants.
Mock the 3rd party OEM psus as you will, but remember that many times those 'junky' psus are quite often far superior to anything you'd list on tier 4 or 5 with a Branded name.
You are absolutely, 100% wrong. You don't know much about how all this works from the backend and don't want to listen to someone who's seen it, been in it, and sold it.HP, Dell, Lenovo motherboards are made by Asus normally, but can include Msi and Gigabyte. You can guarantee that the QC of those companies is the same for a Dell board as it is for the top of the line boards, the only difference being what is actually implemented on the board. Asus buys resistors in bulk shipments, you'll find the same resistors on an Extreme as a Lenovo. Asus isn't about to decide to have sloppy stuff done simply because.
Same for FSP. They are OEM, one of the few OEM like GreatWall or Seasonic or SuperFlower or Delta. The quality of work done is the same, unless specified greater by a particular vendor. The components are the same, the only difference being What components are spec'd for a particular platform. If you get a Seasonic or Delta psu in an HP, it's the same as one you'd get aftermarket, sometimes can be better if spec'd as such.
If you get an FSP branded, direct bolt-in, it's the same unit as the Lenovo. No different. The only thing different is the label. It means Lenovo ordered 100k of those units, but somewhere FSP had extra, might have had to buy 250k in bulk shells, so makes another 150k of the same unit and sells under their own brand after selling Lenovo theirs.
I used to custom build pc's for a small shop, do repairs, upgrades, all the standard pc shop stuff. I've been around this business and tinkering inside pc's with hardware and mods for 40 years. I've messed with everything from Apple II's to Mackintosh, Tandy to Via chipsets, Dos to Windows platforms and remember when an AT tower was a marvelous innovation from the desktop that the 15" 30lb CRT sat on. All that when the monitor power cable went to the psu as well.You are absolutely, 100% wrong. You don't know much about how all this works from the backend and don't want to listen to someone who's seen it, been in it, and sold it.
That may be the case today, but I still have Dells that are 10yrs+ on the same original power supply, and that's after unsupported upgrades too, like a x3220 and a 9500gt. Still running well...for now. But well past a design life of 3 years.Arguing about OEM PCs again are we?
I still have the same old arguments about OEM PSUs and hardware. Sure they meet a standard, but what is it? Last until the warranty expires, any more and they would be overspending. I've had them all blow up on me when I ran a software testing lab for about 5 years. Lenovo, Dell, and the occasional HP (That is whole story about them backing out on supplying us with laptops)
Some would run for years without fail. Just luck of the component lottery.
You left out Foxconn, they make a good chunk of Dell's stuff at least. And run their assembly facilities. (So they can put Assembled in the USA on them in the case of the US, though I think the first wave of desktops we got was from Mexico)
The problem is you saw the industry when it was young and not what it is today. I saw all that too as I've been in PCs since 1988 and computers even longer.I used to custom build pc's for a small shop, do repairs, upgrades, all the standard pc shop stuff. I've been around this business and tinkering inside pc's with hardware and mods for 40 years. I've messed with everything from Apple II's to Mackintosh, Tandy to Via chipsets, Dos to Windows platforms and remember when an AT tower was a marvelous innovation from the desktop that the 15" 30lb CRT sat on. All that when the monitor power cable went to the psu as well.
Do ya think that possibly qualifies as someone who has seen it, been in it, and sold it?
So I guess you know where that 100% belongs, instead you tell me who builds HP mobo's. Oh, it's Asus mostly btw, who builds HP psus, oh, Seasonic, Delta, FSP, GreatWall.
And yes, Foxconn does build a good chunk of Dell mobo's, but Dell is oddball anyways in a lot of stuff, it's kind of model depending and Foxconn is a massive electronics Corp in its own right, has its nose everywhere.
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