I WAS gonna get a 965P ...

cahutch

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I've been researching building a new system for a few weeks now and I was just about to pull the trigger and order everything.

I started looking for the best price on a GA-965P-DQ6 and quickly discovered that all outlets were sold out. I found out today that it's because they released the P35 boards.

I was a little disappointed. The 965P was matured to rev 3.3 and has alot of good reviews. If I go forward with the P35 it's a new unproven and un-reviewed board. Pre-release benchmarks I've seen show very little difference in performance between the 965P and P35.
Should I keep trying to find a 965P board in stock somewhere or just go for the P35? Anyone know a source where I could still get a GA-965P-DQ6?

Several places are actually selling the new P35 but aren't allowed to advertise them yet. ClubIT will sell them now they just can't post anything on their website yet.

I found the Gigabyte Manual for the GA-P35-DQ6 here...
http://www.gigabyte-usa.com/Support/Motherboard/Manual_DownloadFile.aspx?FileType=Manual&FileID=17904
Looks to be a straightforward replacement for the 965P-DQ6 so I figure I can go ahead with my build with all other components the same.

I was planning a C2D E6700 Conroe with 2x1GB Corsair DDR2 800 or 1066 Cas:5
Anybody see any reason those might be a problem on the new P35?

I could wait for reviews and see what other boards come out soon but as I said, I was all ready to pull the trigger and don't really want to wait another month.

EDIT: Hmm, maybe I shoulda posted this in the gigabyte forum. Sorry, I'm a noob here.
 

mrmez

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Could be a tuff call.

As for benchies... id find it hard to get significant gains over a good 965 atm.

What do u want out of a mobo too? If u OC, a good 965 will get 1600FSB no worries.

Id stay with a tried and tested mobo, and if u get a decent one, bios updates can often increase functionality for new ram and cpu that havent yet been released.
 

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Well 965 vs 35 is a general enough question. I think the answer is mostly whether or not you want to upgrade to Penryn when it's released. If not, screw the 35 and just get 965 now. If so, scale down the E6700 to a E6600 or a E6420 and get a 35 board.
 

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Yeah, I saw that one. The price is a bit high.
I actually found another one for $266 and am trying to find out if it's rev 3.3 before I buy.

Could get the P35 for $260 though.

Since there's almost no performance difference the question is really do I want to spend the effort to try to locate a 965P somewhere or risk getting the first rev of the new board.
 

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Some early review on the P35 look good like this one at VR zone,
they reported a 575 FSB right out of the box.

Like any new chipset though you will run into problems and probably be anxiously awaiting each new BIOS. It really comes down to whether or not you're a bleeding edge type of person.
 

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Yeah, with the E6700 I'm planning on, it looks like the P35 has no advantage over the 965P unless you want to overclock.
ClubIT seems to have gotten the GA-965P-DQ6(rev3.3) back in stock so I'll probably go with that.

I've never really been an overclocker. Oc'ing generally only gets you a slight increase in performance and a potential shorter life for your components.

Besides, this rig will be more than adequate without tweaking.
Anything more than 60FPS is a waste since I can't go higher than 1280x1024/60Hz with the monitor I have anyway.

I might tweak it a little though :wink:
 

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The only advantage of P35 boards is that they allow you to upgrade to Penryn CPUs in the not so distant- future, something which is far from certain for current i965/i975 motherboards. If such upgradeability is important to you, be prepared to pay a price premium and to deal with a not totally mature product

Good luck
 

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[quote="cahutch"Oc'ing generally only gets you a slight increase in performance and a potential shorter life for your components.
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The validity of both those assumptions is highly questionable, IMO
 

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The only advantage of P35 boards is that they allow you to upgrade to Penryn CPUs in the not so distant- future, something which is far from certain for current i965/i975 motherboards. If such upgradeability is important to you, be prepared to pay a price premium and to deal with a not totally mature product

Good luck

I am in the same situation as "cahutch" in that I was about to purchase the GA-965P-DQ6 with all of the other components for a new build.

I actually thought the reason Newegg was out of stock was because of a bad stock of board 8O ...they had a lot of bad reviews posted since the middle of April.

If the 965P and P35 DQ6 boards are close to being the same (based on the Gigabyte manuals) I hope that the P35 boards will be stable enough. I would really like to "assume" :oops: that Gigabyte will not release a poor model...it is their flagship 8O

In knowing that the P35 will be officially released next week I can wait for some offical reviews. I am going away on vacation anyway the last week of May so I can order everything I need after June 3rd.

8) Here are the specs for my build...any thoughts: 8)

Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6, when released
Memory - Corsair 4GB TWIN2X4096-64005DHX, DDR2 800
Video Card - Gigabyte GV-NX86T256D
Power Supply - Corsair CMPSU-520HX
CPU - Intel e6600
Hard Drives - Two Seagate 500Gb
O/S - Microsoft Vista Ultimate
DVD - LiteOn LH-20A1L-05 SATA
 

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The only advantage of P35 boards is that they allow you to upgrade to Penryn CPUs in the not so distant- future...

What about PCIe 2.0? The new P35s will have it. PCIe 2.0 doubles the data rate of each lane from 250MB/s to 500MB/s.

I may be out to lunch, but this would be an advantge of the P35, no? I know with current cards it probably won't make a difference. But if you are concerned about future proofing this is a factor. (Right?)

I am not claiming to be an expert here, I just want to know if I'm right here or out to lunch.
 

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Well that might matter if the 16x lanes were being saturated, but as of late the highest saturation level you will see is about 8x, so there is still a good deal of bandwidth unused in the PCI-e lane world. That being said PCI-e 2.0 will be needed in the future, but who knows when that will be.
 

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I went ahead and got the P35.
It seems to be based off the 965P boards so hopefully it'll already have the kinks worked out.

Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6, ordered and shipped already
Memory - Corsair XMS2 2GB -DDR2-800 (4-4-4-12)
Video Card - EVGA e-GeForce 8800GTS 640 (or 320, I'm still on the fence)
Power Supply - SeaSonic S12 650W
CPU - Intel e6700 + Cooler Master Hyper TX
Hard Drives - Two 150G Raptors
O/S - Windows XP Pro SP2
DVD - Sony NEC Optiarc SATA Model AD-7170S-0B
Case: SILVERSTONE TJ09-SW

I plan to overclockto to 333MHz FSB (3.3GHz, DDR2-666)
The P35 chipset and the memory should have no problem with that since they were built to run that fast stock.
Hopefully with the HyperTX the e6700 CPU won't have a problem either.