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ive been doing a lot of research on this matter of video cards, but i still have a problem. i have a geforce 2 mx 400 right now, but i want to upgrade to another nvidia card for less than $175. so far the ti 4800 SE seems like a good choice, thought the fx 5600 non-ultra is up there to. would the fx 5600 be a better choice with regards to upcoming games (call of duty, halo, and other shooters). the 5600 is cheaper than the 4800 SE and ive seen a lot of variety in how it places in benchmarks. right now i mostly play enemy territory, crimson skies, C&C generals. thanks

sorry all you fanATIcs, but no ATi for me.
 

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"sorry all you fanATIcs, but no ATi for me."

Wow you're a very open minded (oops i hate that phrase), logical, and reasonable person aren't you.

Mind telling us WHY? Since, in your price range, ATI is what you should be wanting!!

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If you must go with Nvidia, I would choose the DirextX 9.0 Compliant GFX 5600 because it is more future proof than the DX 8.0 Compliant GeForce 4 ti 4800 SE even though the Ti 4800 will beat the 5600 in currenet benchmarks. Also the Ti 4800 SE has a premium price to be paid because it was the very last flagship Nvidia model of the GeForce 4 series. In fact, a Ti 4200 performs closely to the 5600 according to anandtech, even on Doom 3 the performance gap between Ti4200 and Fx 5600 is not all that large.

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No, under no circumstances buy a 5600. *IF for some unlogical irrational reason you MUST go with an nVidia card, spend a bit more and get an FX5600 Ultra (revision 2, which can be recognized by its clock speeds of 400/800).

It is the only nVidia card worth buying... period.
(256 9800 Pro OC'd whoops 256 FX's ass and dosn't cheat, similar situation with 128mb cards, even a 128mb 9800 Pro vs. a 256mb 5900 Ultra)

However what you really should be looking at is a Radeon 9700 (not the Pro version). These can be found for around 200 dollars and will literally whoop a 5600s ASS, even the ultras. This is true for current AND (especially even) future games.

Open your mind before you open your wallet:)

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Crashman

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Hmm, I'd probably go for either the 5600 Ultra or the Ti4200. The Ti4200 is an excellent value, and the 5600 ULtra is an excellent performer. Everything between seems like a poor comprimise, neither a good value nor an excellent performer.

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endyen

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You are not going to know what you're missing. sorry. The best nvidia cards for your money are the 4200 and the 4800. The 5600 is a bad attempt at trying to catch the 9500. It gave up too much quality for speed.
Coolsqirtle is a fellow Nvidiot, so check out his Buyer's guide. He also wrote a lot of Spitfire's FAQ, at the top of the page. They know of what they speek.

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cleeve

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5600 Ultra Rev2 is your best Nvidia choice if you can find one cheap enough.
Don't bother with a 4800 SE, go for a Ti4200 because performance will be almost exactly the same but cost wayyy cheaper than $175.

Of course, regardless of your choice I will own you with my 9500 PRO... but you're not interested in Ati, and that's your business. :)

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lol, i see you guys really dont like people who want things to be easy and just upgrade from nvidia to nvidia. i do not see anything wrong with nvidia cards, my geforce 2 rules so much. and i dont really care about the cheating drivers because i have no idea what it is, and i doubt it will affect me. the only ATi experience ive had has been super bad (defective card out of the box)

anyways i will probably go with the 4200 from MSI. seems like a cool card, plus has cool software and stuff with it.
 

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Well, the 4200 is certainly a nice card, but you should think about the future. If you can afford $175 for a card, why not spend it? You can spend $140 on a Radeon 9600 Pro, which will whip the 4200. I have a 9600 Pro, it has given me NO PROBLEMS, whatsoever. I think that you'd be happier in the long run. You'll have DX9, more speed, superior image quality... just think about it, at least.

As for the cheating thing, that really applies for to the FX series, so you're right, it probably wouldn't affect you, but the dishonesty is what really gets to me and the others.

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now that 9600 pro is sounding really enticing. though my brother doesnt like ATi because during his internship as an IT guy, he had several problems with the ATi software. why does choosing graphics card have to be so hard!?! the only reason im favoring nvidia is that i already have one, its been good, and i dont like surprises. i have nothing against ATi, in fact im looking at the mobility 9600 for a laptop (and why cant they include free games with their cards!?!?! :) ).
 

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Ti4200 is the way to go period.

"Coolsqirtle is a fellow Nvidiot"
lemme re phase
"Coolsqirtle is a fellow NvBOY"
IT NVBOY!! I'm not stooopid like nVidiots

also i wrote the entire FAQ, spitfire just made it readable (i love u spit fire!)

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endyen

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Didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I really do respect your opinion, even when everyone else disagrees. Hey, that means you are rooting for the underdog. Maybe, someday I'll join you.
 

dhlucke

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Try to be open minded. The ATI cards are your best bet for your budget.

i dont really care about the cheating drivers because i have no idea what it is, and i doubt it will affect me
Don't fall for this. It does affect you since the cards don't work as advertised. At least if you buy a FX card.

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Ti 4200....best for the value. Leave the FX5600 alone unless it is an Ultra Rev2. Seriously man, the 4800 has no improved performance above the Ti 4200. You can have the 4200 for so much less as well. If you think the 5600 is the way to go simply because it has DX9 compliance...you need hit in the forehead with a hammer. The 5600 regular will not have a large (if any) performance gain over the 4200 in DX9 games...no kidding. It is the crappiest attempt Nvidia had to overtake ATI. Like I said, unless you get the Ultra...don't even think about it...the 4200 is your best bet for price/value.

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Get a card that will suite your needs, that's it.
I would not recommend getting a very expensive card neither like the 5900 or 9800. But the best choice so far is getting either a GF4200 or a Radeon9600 or higher. These cards have a good price/performance ratio. Plus if you play a lot of Direct 3D games get the 9600. :smile:

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