I3-3220 & Sapphire HD 7850 2GB Bottle Neck Problem...

[clopostfn]

My Specs:
   - i3-3220
   - HD 7850 2GB,
   - 16 GB & 1600 MHz (2x8) RAM
   - 1 TB Toshiba HDD
   - 400W PSU (original asus has a coil inside)
   - Motherboard: Wibtek H61MX 1155Pin

   - Windows 8.1 64bit - Tryed a lot of amd drivers, nothing changed.

Games:
   - Arma3
   - Battlefield 3
   - CS:GO
   - Fortnite
   - DayZ Standalone
   - (Maybe PUBG soon.)

[A:] I put screenshots below. My monitor supports 1366x768. In this resulation i think i got bottleneck. its not happening only in csgo, other games too. If i enable the amd vsr and make the resulation 1920x1080, using gpu is going up to %90~%99 but fps drops and low fps coming up too and my cpu always hot with this gpu.

[B:] OR another way: Could i5-3470 or i5 2500 fix my problem ?

Thanks for every help. sorry for language maybe

https://imgur.com/a/AjOFg

 

[zyh1987]

what does the utilization looks like on cpu (utilization per core)

 

[clopostfn]

Cpu temrature limit is 65 and its hitting 65.
And usage: https://imgur.com/a/BR51y

 

[dontlistentome]

At 1366x768 with a 2gb 7850 your framerate will be limited by your CPU mostly.

Some games are not well optimized. In these games a CPU upgrade may not much. It will cost money to upgrade, so the improved performance needs to be enough to justify the cost. ARMA3 and PUBG may need more CPU and videocard power, in games like these a simple CPU upgrade might not make you happy.

CSGO and Fortnite should be running okay right now with what you have. If they are not, then you have some other problem with your system. That videocard can be considered a 150W part, your CPU a 55W part. So there's about 200W being demanded from your power supply on the 12V output. "original asus" tells me nothing about it, and it's only 400W Which is less than I'd want in a system with an HD 7850. You might want to consider getting yourself a good 430W-450W power supply to replace it.

 

[zyh1987]

Cpu temrature limit is 65 and its hitting 65.
And usage: https://imgur.com/a/BR51y

you are right Tjunc is 65 C,

have you tried to clean your cpu cooler change thermal paste or get an aftermarket one, cpu will throttle when hit the 65 C. if you can keep it at 55, this would help. real 4 core offers better performance, you see pbbly 10%~20% gain with 2500. (more cache, higher frequency, four physical cores)

 

[clopostfn]

one week ago i was using gt9500 and it was using 160w i was taking much fps in csgo is that enough for something ? and thank you for helping me

 

[n0ns3ns3]

i3 is very bad gaming CPU.
It is simply too weak for modern games. i5 will somewhat improve things like stuttering and freezes, but the ultimate treat would be whatever i7 of 2nd or 3rd gen.
The GPU is also weak, but can hold a bit at your monitor resolution

 

[clopostfn]

Cpu temrature limit is 65 and its hitting 65.
And usage: https://imgur.com/a/BR51y

you are right Tjunc is 65 C,

have you tried to clean your cpu cooler change thermal paste or get an aftermarket one, cpu will throttle when hit the 65 C. if you can keep it at 55, this would help. real 4 core offers better performance, you see pbbly 10%~20% gain with 2500. (more cache, higher frequency, four physical cores)

thermalpaste is new coolermaster's one.
if cpu changing makes some diffrence which one is better i5-2400 or i5 3470 ?
or it doesnt what can i do ? change motherboard too ?
thanks for help

 

[clopostfn]

i3 is very bad gaming CPU.
It is simply too weak for modern games. i5 will somewhat improve things like stuttering and freezes, but the ultimate treat would be whatever i7 of 2nd or 3rd gen.
The GPU is also weak, but can hold a bit at your monitor resolution

its in minimum system reqs. and better than gtx 460 and gtx 460 could play in 720p arma and pubg.
i said i5s above can do somthing because i have 1155 pin motherboard.

 

[clopostfn]

1155 pin processors here:
https://ark.intel.com/tr/Search/FeatureFilter?productType=processors&SocketsSupported=LGA1155

 

[n0ns3ns3]

i5 will improve things. it's just in many games (especially open worlds) you will still have stuttering/freezes and some control issues.
Minimum requirements usually means - you run the game, but you will suffer.
I'd not recommend to look for a GPU with less than 3GB of RAM that is older than nvidia 7xx or AMD R9 380/390. Something like GTX 770/780.
Otherwise you might face games that refuse to run since older GPUs usually lack modern (required) features or simply the vRAM is too low.
Going forward it's only going to be worse for older GPUs.
same goes for the CPU - i5 will do some job, but i7 gives you much more performance and quality for at least few years.

 

[clopostfn]

i5 will improve things. it's just in many games (especially open worlds) you will still have stuttering/freezes and some control issues.
Minimum requirements usually means - you run the game, but you will suffer.
I'd not recommend to look for a GPU with less than 3GB of RAM that is older than nvidia 7xx or AMD R9 380/390. Something like GTX 770/780.
Otherwise you might face games that refuse to run since older GPUs usually lack modern (required) features or simply the vRAM is too low.
Going forward it's only going to be worse for older GPUs.
same goes for the CPU - i5 will do some job, but i7 gives you much more performance and quality for at least few years.

i dont want the best i just wanna play, if you can understand that so much helpful to me. if i5 really makes some difference and stops bottleneck its enough for me and which one ? thanks for help .

 

[n0ns3ns3]

3570 -> 3500 -> 3470 -> 2500

 

[clopostfn]

3570 -> 3500 -> 3470 -> 2500

Thanks For All Help, not the cpus not the gpus You Are The BEST.

I will do somthing and write it here.
Good Games. Good Clicks.

 

[clopostfn]

3570 -> 3500 -> 3470 -> 2500

Hello again, is the i7 3770 better than everyone?
Because i found a system i7 3770 + gigabyte z77n-wifi is it worth?

 

[n0ns3ns3]

it is way better. the question is the price.

 

[clopostfn]

it is way better. the question is the price.

I7-3770 + Gigabyte Z77n-wifi + 8gb ram = 250usd

 

[n0ns3ns3]

i7-3770 are sold for 100-150$
you already have a compatible MB and 2x8GB of RAM.
So this deal is not that good at all.

 

[clopostfn]

i7-3770 are sold for 100-150$
you already have a compatible MB and 2x8GB of RAM.
So this deal is not that good at all.

I will sell the 8gb ram for 30~40usd
I know this mobo supports 1600mhz ram channel am i right?
And i never said here but i living some wifi and internet problems on my mobo also ethernet doesnt work in mine.

Anyways is it worth it now? Maybe?