i3 or AMD options, what to buy?

[Aleksius]

There is little between these processors prices...

Intel Core i3 4150 BOX processor, Haswell 3.5 GHz 103,32 €
Processor Intel Core i3-3220 3,3 GHz BOX S1155 102,02 €
Processor Intel Core i3 3240 BOX 3.4 GHz 104,03 €

How do you know what is better?

Would an AMD quad AMD A10-6790K (4.0GHz) FM2 BOX for 107,26 €
or AMD A8-7600 (3.1GHz) FM2+ BOX 107,77 € be better?

As I see these prices I am confused at how to rank these processors.

 

[emdea22]

The A10 and A8 are APUs - they have good integrated graphics comparable to stand alone cards
If you plan on overclocking you'll need to go to an equivalent to the i3s - the FX6300/6350 from amd
If you don't plan on overclocking go with the i3

However if you're not going to buy a dedicated graphics card the go with the a10 6790k and 1866mhz DDR3 ram

 

[Aleksius]

The A10 and A8 are APUs - they have good integrated graphics comparable to stand alone cards
If you plan on overclocking you'll need to go to an equivalent to the i3s - the FX6300/6350 from amd
If you don't plan on overclocking go with the i3

However if you're not going to buy a dedicated graphics card the go with the a10 6790k and 1866mhz DDR3 ram

I don't play games, however I want to play hd 1080p and 60fps video....

 

[GRUxTSAR]

FX 6300 = Gaming
A10-7850K = Low end gaming (720p low settings 50fps)

Any other A10 = Good for HD videos and possibly extremely low-end gaming

 

[Mac266]

Are you getting a discrete Graphics Card?

If Yes, Get the i3 4150.

If No, Get the A10 7850k or A8 7600.

 

[Wisecracker]

The AMD A8-7600 Kaveri APU will work just dandy.

 

[Rationale]

The AMD A8-7600 Kaveri APU will work just dandy.

As long as he's not getting a GPU, yes.
However, the A10-6790K is faster and the same price.

And if he's getting a graphics card, both the i3-4150 and the FX-6300 offer far superior performance than any APU.

 

[Aleksius]

The AMD A8-7600 Kaveri APU will work just dandy.

As long as he's not getting a GPU, yes.
However, the A10-6790K is faster and the same price.

And if he's getting a graphics card, both the i3-4150 and the FX-6300 offer far superior performance than any APU.

not getting a graphics card, so which one would you choose on the list?

 

[Rationale]

The AMD A8-7600 Kaveri APU will work just dandy.

As long as he's not getting a GPU, yes.
However, the A10-6790K is faster and the same price.

And if he's getting a graphics card, both the i3-4150 and the FX-6300 offer far superior performance than any APU.

not getting a graphics card, so which one would you choose on the list?

Since you're not getting a graphics card, then the A10-6790K is the best option.

Edit: Never mind. I just checked, and for some reason the A8-7600 seems to score better in benchmarks. I honestly have no idea why. Hmm.

 

[emdea22]

The A10 7850k

 

[logainofhades]

A8 7600 should only score better in graphics benchmarks.

 

[Wisecracker]

The A8-7600 has 4 Steamroller CPU cores, 6 CUs (384 'GCN' shader cores) and 45/65w configurable voltage - not to mention UVD4, HSA TrueAudio, and triple the FCLs (Fusion Compute Links) of the A10-6790K.

The A10-6790K (a Richland APU) has 4 Piledriver cores, 384 'Turks' cores and roughly half the overall bandwidth of the Kaveri APU.

 

[mdocod]

I don't play games, however I want to play hd 1080p and 60fps video....

Then you want the i3-4150. The fixed function hardware decoder in haswell is better than the decoder in on AMD APUs.

 

[DubbleClick]

As well as the I3 should give better overall performance and lower power consumption.
HD 4600 is far from gaming capable, but more than enough to fluently watch videos in 2k.

 

[sapperastro]

I would get the A8 7600 for your purposes. The graphics power is far stronger than intel, while the CPU is strong enough to last you forever just watching movies.

 

[DubbleClick]

Meanwhile the intel hd graphics is more than strong enough to handle videos aswell. Unless you're on a super tight budget for 720p gaming, there is absolutely no reason to go with amd's apu's.

 

[Rationale]

Meanwhile the intel hd graphics is more than strong enough to handle videos aswell. Unless you're on a super tight budget for 720p gaming, there is absolutely no reason to go with amd's apu's.

True.

 

[Calculatron]

If you are not going to do any gaming, and you only plan on watching HD movies as the most taxing thing you'll be doing, I don't think you'll need much hardware.

I'm fairly confident you may be able to get by with a Pentium, or one of the new Athlon options provided by AMD. (Although, someone please correct me if I am wrong.)

 

[Rationale]

If you are not going to do any gaming, and you only plan on watching HD movies as the most taxing thing you'll be doing, I don't think you'll need much hardware.

I'm fairly confident you may be able to get by with a Pentium, or one of the new Athlon options provided by AMD. (Although, someone please correct me if I am wrong.)

One of the new Athlons wouldn't work, since they're just APUs without the video chipset. He'd need a graphics card if he got an Athlon, which would defeat the entire point.

 

[Calculatron]

I should have specified - one of the Kabini-based Athlons, such as the 5350, or 5150.

In my defense, the APU-based CPUs, which have their iGPU disabled, are technically called Athlon X4, or Athlon X2, depending on the number of cores they have.

 

[mdocod]

Seems to be some confusion about video hardware on these chips. The render performance of an A8/A10 APU is stronger than an i3-4150, by at least double (Depending on the conditions of the workload), but the video decoder performance of the i3-4150 is approximately double that of any existing A8/A10. For a machine that will not be used to play games, but will be used to watch videos, the later is more important than the former.

In modern computing, we don't use the "CPU" (Specifically) for decoding most video content (though you can, it's ill advised as it is very compute intensive when done in software and wastes a lot of power). Pretty much all GPU and iGPUs come with some type of fixed function hardware for dealing with the vast majority of video codec standards. For the long haul, the i3 is better prepared for the transition to beyond 1080P resolution videos.

 

[sapperastro]

I was under the impression that steamroller (a8 7600 et al) had a new improved video decoder? Are you certain the haswell decoder is still in front?

 

[Aleksius]

I must iterate this once more, I will not buy a graphics card, I do not play video games, which one of these AMD or Intel is better without one?

Only HD video 60fps and such....

 

[DubbleClick]

The intel i3, as above mentioned and explained. Overall better performance (non graphics bound), better power management, stronger video encoder (what you want for watching videos) and with a nice motherboard featuring usb 3.0 and m.2 connections.

 

[logainofhades]

For just watching HD video, a Kabini based rig would be sufficient. They are nice little HTPC chips.