Question i5-12400 or 5600x which is better for future proof?

kaustubbhh

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My current spec is built in 2013 -
CPU - i5-3330
GPU - Asus 1060 3GB
Mobo - Gigabyte B75m-d3h
Ram - 8 GB (1333 MHz)
PSU - Corsair VS650
SSD - Crucial BX500

I mainly play Valorant right now getting 80-100 fps with almost 100% CPU load and sudden fps drops and screen freeze once/twice a match or less and office work with heavy multitasking. Currently, I have seen my pc has dropped its performance and mostly works on 80-100% load while heavy multitasking and 40-50% load when in idle with 80+ degrees (I have poor airflow and fans).
My plan is to upgrade all my components except GPU and PSU (will upgrade both in a year or 2). This plan is to upgrade my CPU, Mobo, and RAM right now to continue my current work and Valorant (CPU heavy game to get 200+ fps) given that this should be future-proof so that I can upgrade my GPU to 3060/3070 equivalent next year.

Knowing 12400 has launched recently and 5600x is the last AM4 socket and AMD have an upcoming 7000 series so 5600x might get old, should I wait?
Please suggest which build from below (Indian prices) will be a better option for future proof with a GPU upgrade later for mid/high-level gaming and multitasking. Open to any suggestion here.

PartPrice $PartPrice $
Ryzen 5 5600X300i5 - 12400250
ASrock steel legend b550m155Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX DDR4 (Wi-Fi)140
G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB DDR4 3200MHz x 280G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB DDR4 3200MHz x 280
Total535Total470
Is 5600x worth extra 65$??
 
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Why_Me

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My current spec is built in 2013 -
CPU - i5-3330
GPU - Asus 1060 3GB
Mobo - Gigabyte B75m-d3h
Ram - 8 GB (1333 MHz)
PSU - Corsair VS650
SSD - Crucial BX500

I mainly play Valorant right now getting 80-100 fps with almost 100% CPU load and sudden fps drops and screen freeze once/twice a match or less and office work with heavy multitasking. Currently, I have seen my pc has dropped its performance and mostly works on 80-100% load while heavy multitasking and 40-50% load when in idle with 80+ degrees (I have poor airflow and fans).
My plan is to upgrade all my components except GPU and PSU (will upgrade both in a year or 2). This plan is to upgrade my CPU, Mobo, and RAM right now to continue my current work and Valorant (CPU heavy game to get 200+ fps) given that this should be future-proof so that I can upgrade my GPU to 3060/3070 equivalent next year.

Knowing 12400 has launched recently and 5600x is the last AM4 socket and AMD have an upcoming 7000 series so 5600x might get old, should I wait?
Please suggest which build from below (Indian prices) will be a better option for future proof with a GPU upgrade later for mid/high-level gaming and multitasking. Open to any suggestion here.

PartPrice $PartPrice $
Ryzen 5 5600X300i5 - 12400250
ASrock steel legend b550m155Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX DDR4 (Wi-Fi)140
G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB DDR4 3200MHz x 280G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB DDR4 3200MHz x 280
Total535Total470
Is 5600x worth extra 65$??
If you end up going with the Intel build then I'd recommend spending an extra $10 for this board down below if you need wifi. It has much better VRM's and is all around a better board. It's due to arrive at Newegg and other US hardware sites any day now.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144524
MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 $149.99

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1687331-REG/msi_pro_b660m_a_wifi_ddr4.html

If you don't need wifi then consider this board.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144531
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $139.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4
 
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Hello kaustubbhh. Personally, I wouldn't pay $65 USD more for the Ryzen 5 5600X. However, I would consider paying $50 more to upgrade to the core i5-12600K. The 12600K made the Ryzen 5 5600X irrelevant at the $300 price point, which is why here in the US, R5 5600X lowered in price to $259. The core i5-12600K is 60%+ faster greater multicore performance than the R5 5600X (ref. Cincbench R23 benchmark). The single core performance (the application responsiveness) is 20%+ greater. Were I in your situation, I would consider buying the core i5-12600K and placing it on a reasonably priced B660 chipset motherboard ($140 - $150 USD); not a more costly Z690 board. I run my Intel builds on Windows 11 Pro, and my AMD builds on Windows 10 Pro. And by the way, there is a good chance that the YouTube channel Hardware Unboxed will release their Intel B660 chipset motherboard reviews this week. I suggest subscribing to the channel, so that you don't miss that. The links below are to their 12400 / 12600K / Intel Alder Lake discussion video. FYI: I own all three chips: core i5-12400 / i5-12600K / Ryzen 5 5600X, and I also play Valorant; I'm a controller main. No matter which upgrade you pick, you're in for a tremendous experience. Among the three options, there is no bad choice.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J0iP520WoY

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzhwVLUVork

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNVJYOkm6zs
 
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Atom Ant

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Absolutely 12400F, it is an big upgrade from 5600X, at least if you buy motherboard which allows overclocking. But without overclocking still better and offers much better price/performance.

Here some of my scores,

https://valid.x86.fr/7zr34u

Where is 5600X?


It beats even 5800X and in single core performance it demolishes!

Userbenchmark,
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/50873739
 
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My current spec is built in 2013 -
CPU - i5-3330
GPU - Asus 1060 3GB
Mobo - Gigabyte B75m-d3h
Ram - 8 GB (1333 MHz)
PSU - Corsair VS650
SSD - Crucial BX500

I mainly play Valorant right now getting 80-100 fps with almost 100% CPU load and sudden fps drops and screen freeze once/twice a match or less and office work with heavy multitasking. Currently, I have seen my pc has dropped its performance and mostly works on 80-100% load while heavy multitasking and 40-50% load when in idle with 80+ degrees (I have poor airflow and fans).
My plan is to upgrade all my components except GPU and PSU (will upgrade both in a year or 2). This plan is to upgrade my CPU, Mobo, and RAM right now to continue my current work and Valorant (CPU heavy game to get 200+ fps) given that this should be future-proof so that I can upgrade my GPU to 3060/3070 equivalent next year.

Knowing 12400 has launched recently and 5600x is the last AM4 socket and AMD have an upcoming 7000 series so 5600x might get old, should I wait?
Please suggest which build from below (Indian prices) will be a better option for future proof with a GPU upgrade later for mid/high-level gaming and multitasking. Open to any suggestion here.

PartPrice $PartPrice $
Ryzen 5 5600X300i5 - 12400250
ASrock steel legend b550m155Gigabyte B660M DS3H AX DDR4 (Wi-Fi)140
G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB DDR4 3200MHz x 280G.Skill Ripjaws V 8GB DDR4 3200MHz x 280
Total535Total470
Is 5600x worth extra 65$??
Performance wise it doesn't really matter, they will last a similar amount of time. You can get better quality boards on AMD for similar money but the 5600X itself costs more. On the Intel side 13th gen will also be on the same socket so you've got one more generation of chips at least that you could potentially put on the same board. However if your upgrading in a year or two then you bought wrong in the first place, also I would not pair an i7 with that B660M board anyway.

Is there a reason you've picked mATX boards, do you have an mATX case?
 
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If you end up going with the Intel build then I'd recommend spending an extra $10 for this board down below if you need wifi. It has much better VRM's and is all around a better board. It's due to arrive at Newegg and other US hardware sites any day now.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144524
MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 $149.99

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1687331-REG/msi_pro_b660m_a_wifi_ddr4.html

If you don't need wifi then consider this board.

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144531
MSI PRO B660M-A DDR4 $139.99

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-B660M-A-DDR4
How to know if a motherboard has a better VRM or not?
 

punkncat

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Something said about Ryzen earlier in the thread mentions the socket being used longer. Has AMD come out to say that they will be utilizing the new socket such as they did with AM4?
And along with that aspect, what will chipset support be like at the tail end?
Are they going to change course then double back?

Most importantly, are they going to simplify this BIOS nightmare created with all this "compatibility" on lower end boards without flash functions? Should we expect a new round of loaner boot kits?

It all seemed such a golden promise in the beginning and has turned to a real crap shoot for the uninitiated.
 

Karadjgne

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Amd will be going DDR5 for the next platform, it's done with AM4. About the only chance I see for DDR4 survival is maybe some of the A or B series boards, but the X series should all be DDR5. But that'll probably change with Amd trying to stay competitive.

Intel had a major success with AlderLake architecture, it's a serious improvement over the Skylake ++++++? of 11th Gen. Not too much a stretch of the imagination to see RaptorLake (AlderLake +) continuing the improvements and keeping DDR4/DDR5 varients.

Amd had its time in the sun, finally, but Intel brought out the umbrella and back in the shade Amd goes. This is Intel's gen again. Supposedly AM5 will trash that umbrella and Amd will be back on top, but who knows.

Honestly there's no right answer. The 5600x/5800x are both great cpus, especially for the power conscious, but the 12400/12600k do have advantages. You'll get at least 1 more gen out of LGA1700. If you care about upgrading. But those are all benchmarks, the reality is you really can't see any difference, all 4 will game similarly ± a couple fps.
 
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The 5xxx series of AMD is a 'dead end' socket. The 12th gen Intel (motherboard) will presumably offer a BIOS update to 13th gen if they follow their traditional policy.
Hopefully, yes and B660 would be fine just that I won't be planning to update it for the next 4/5 years
 
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Hello kaustubbhh. Personally, I wouldn't pay $65 USD more for the Ryzen 5 5600X. However, I would consider paying $50 more to upgrade to the core i5-12600K. The 12600K made the Ryzen 5 5600X irrelevant at the $300 price point, which is why here in the US, R5 5600X lowered in price to $259. The core i5-12600K is 60%+ faster greater multicore performance than the R5 5600X (ref. Cincbench R23 benchmark). The single core performance (the application responsiveness) is 20%+ greater. Were I in your situation, I would consider buying the core i5-12600K and placing it on a reasonably priced B660 chipset motherboard ($140 - $150 USD); not a more costly Z690 board. I run my Intel builds on Windows 11 Pro, and my AMD builds on Windows 10 Pro. And by the way, there is a good chance that the YouTube channel Hardware Unboxed will release their Intel B660 chipset motherboard reviews this week. I suggest subscribing to the channel, so that you don't miss that. The links below are to their 12400 / 12600K / Intel Alder Lake discussion video. FYI: I own all three chips: core i5-12400 / i5-12600K / Ryzen 5 5600X, and I also play Valorant; I'm a controller main. No matter which upgrade you pick, you're in for a tremendous experience. Among the three options, there is no bad choice.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J0iP520WoY

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzhwVLUVork

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNVJYOkm6zs
Thanks for summarizing it very well and will try to fit in 12600K (135$+ from 12400 in India), just wasn't sure about the B660 Mobos for 12600K if it works fine or not.
 

kaustubbhh

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Performance wise it doesn't really matter, they will last a similar amount of time. You can get better quality boards on AMD for similar money but the 5600X itself costs more. On the Intel side 13th gen will also be on the same socket so you've got one more generation of chips at least that you could potentially put on the same board. However if your upgrading in a year or two then you bought wrong in the first place, also I would not pair an i7 with that B660M board anyway.

Is there a reason you've picked mATX boards, do you have an mATX case?
I will have to buy a cabinet anyways so very few options available here for B660 in that price, open for suggestion
 

kaustubbhh

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Amd will be going DDR5 for the next platform, it's done with AM4. About the only chance I see for DDR4 survival is maybe some of the A or B series boards, but the X series should all be DDR5. But that'll probably change with Amd trying to stay competitive.

Intel had a major success with AlderLake architecture, it's a serious improvement over the Skylake ++++++? of 11th Gen. Not too much a stretch of the imagination to see RaptorLake (AlderLake +) continuing the improvements and keeping DDR4/DDR5 varients.

Amd had its time in the sun, finally, but Intel brought out the umbrella and back in the shade Amd goes. This is Intel's gen again. Supposedly AM5 will trash that umbrella and Amd will be back on top, but who knows.

Honestly there's no right answer. The 5600x/5800x are both great cpus, especially for the power conscious, but the 12400/12600k do have advantages. You'll get at least 1 more gen out of LGA1700. If you care about upgrading. But those are all benchmarks, the reality is you really can't see any difference, all 4 will game similarly ± a couple fps.
Makes sense, will try to get 12600k as it is the latest gen right now but not planning to upgrade anytime soon for the next 4/5 years. Thank you!
 

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I went with 5600X, but ONLY because it was, with a particular sale in-store only at MicroCenter, cheaper for me to get a 5600X and budget motherboard than it was for me to get a 12400 and budget motherboard (from in-store deals at MicroCenter, or anywhere else).

That, however, is definitely an odd situation.

The Intel, however, isn't really future proof. At best, you're looking at being able to upgrade to a 13th gen CPU . . maybe. But, do you really plan to upgrade in the next year or two? "Future-proof" isn't something to weigh in on this . . future-proof is a bogus concept for this.

The 5600X has come down in price, with 3 vendors (NewEgg, Best Buy, B&H) having it in the $225-$235 range. The last I checked, and this DOES seem to almost change on a weekly basis, the AMD motherboard tend to run less expensive than the Intel motherboards for 12th gen.

Look at the total price of CPU+MB for the Intel side and the AMD side, and go with whichever is cheaper. If it's a tie, or very close, I'd go AMD simply because I like having a bit less power draw.
 
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I went with 5600X, but ONLY because it was, with a particular sale in-store only at MicroCenter, cheaper for me to get a 5600X and budget motherboard than it was for me to get a 12400 and budget motherboard (from in-store deals at MicroCenter, or anywhere else).

That, however, is definitely an odd situation.

The Intel, however, isn't really future proof. At best, you're looking at being able to upgrade to a 13th gen CPU . . maybe. But, do you really plan to upgrade in the next year or two? "Future-proof" isn't something to weigh in on this . . future-proof is a bogus concept for this.

The 5600X has come down in price, with 3 vendors (NewEgg, Best Buy, B&H) having it in the $225-$235 range. The last I checked, and this DOES seem to almost change on a weekly basis, the AMD motherboard tend to run less expensive than the Intel motherboards for 12th gen.

Look at the total price of CPU+MB for the Intel side and the AMD side, and go with whichever is cheaper. If it's a tie, or very close, I'd go AMD simply because I like having a bit less power draw.
It's a tie with a 12400F for Pete's sake. The 5600X isn't worth it. That's $200 to $264/($225 if you are lucky)

 
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