i5 2400 or Xeon E3 1220

[Brandon316]

I'm not sure what to do, I currently have the i5 2400 but I want a better CPU because I lag on the only game I play currently which is Rust.
I'm not sure if I should go with the E3 1220 or something else (I'm not really looking to overclock, mainly because of my motherboard p67xud3-b3)
I'm asking here because the Xeon isn't really being used for gaming as a result there's less chances of finding answers by researching.

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-3374025/intel-core-2400-intel-xeon-1220.html?xtor=EREC-8889

 

[daswilhelm]

Those two chips are basically the same. You wouldn't notice a difference. Look for a used i7 3770, just make sure your bios is up to date so it can support Ivy Bridge cpu's.

 

[Brandon316]

Those two chips are basically the same. You wouldn't notice a difference. Look for a used i7 3770, just make sure your bios is up to date so it can support Ivy Bridge cpu's.

I prefer to go with Xeon though, I've found so many great deals on them that can't be turned down.
Maybe a different Xeon chip?

 

[daswilhelm]

If you must get a xeon, try the e3 1245v2. check that your board supports it first (it should). It's the same thing as the i7 3770 (basically).

 

[dontlistentome]

A lot of Xeons are just business/server oriented cousins of i5 and i7 consumer CPUs. So it makes no sense to get the Xeon version of the i5 2400. An E3 1230 or 1240 gets you four cores and eight threads. So you would be moving from that i5 to a same generation i7.

 

[Brandon316]

A lot of Xeons are just business/server oriented cousins of i5 and i7 consumer CPUs. So it makes no sense to get the Xeon version of the i5 2400. An E3 1230 or 1240 gets you four cores and eight threads. So you would be moving from that i5 to a same generation i7.

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Consumer or for servers, it doesn't matter.
Xeons are cheaper, can't be overlocked(most), don't have a GPU built in (which is not needed)

So there's no reason why Xenos shouldn't be used, alot of people use them and play on today's games without a problem.

 

[madmatt30]

^ indeed but its a given an i5 is a straight quad & an i7 is hyper threaded.

There are many xeons that are straight reiterations of the i5 but with more l3 cache which is non bemeficial for gaming anyway.

Irregardless the lack of ipc on sandy/ivy is whats hurting performance on rust not the lack of threads.

That said, the hyperthreaded ivy xeons have the fastest base & boost clocks on that socket by a fair stretch.

They are not the ones you'll find cheap though.

Xeon 1270/1280/1290 are the faster ones.

You've then got to be careful because your board only support the sandy v1 variations
The v2 are ivy & are not listed as supported on your board.

 

[Brandon316]

^ indeed but its a given an i5 is a straight quad & an i7 is hyper threaded.

There are many xeons that are straight reiterations of the i5 but with more l3 cache which is non bemeficial for gaming anyway.

Irregardless the lack of ipc on sandy/ivy is whats hurting performance on rust not the lack of threads.

That said, the hyperthreaded ivy xeons have the fastest base & boost clocks on that socket by a fair stretch.

They are not the ones you'll find cheap though.

Xeon 1270/1280/1290 are the faster ones.

You've then got to be careful because your board only support the sandy v1 variations
The v2 are ivy & are not listed as supported on your board.

I think I will go with the 1270(Intel Xeon E3-1270 3.4GHz LGA1155 8MB Quad Core), do I need to know something else before purchasing?

Do you think it would be worth it and will I be able to see any improvement while gaming with it.

 

[daswilhelm]

^ indeed but its a given an i5 is a straight quad & an i7 is hyper threaded.

There are many xeons that are straight reiterations of the i5 but with more l3 cache which is non bemeficial for gaming anyway.

Irregardless the lack of ipc on sandy/ivy is whats hurting performance on rust not the lack of threads.

That said, the hyperthreaded ivy xeons have the fastest base & boost clocks on that socket by a fair stretch.

They are not the ones you'll find cheap though.

Xeon 1270/1280/1290 are the faster ones.

You've then got to be careful because your board only support the sandy v1 variations
The v2 are ivy & are not listed as supported on your board.

I think I will go with the 1270(Intel Xeon E3-1270 3.4GHz LGA1155 8MB Quad Core), do I need to know something else before purchasing?

Do you think it would be worth it and will I be able to see any improvement while gaming with it.

That's still a sandy bridge part. You would be getting hyperthreading, which doesn't change gaming performance that much. If you go for an ivy bridge i7, you'd see a small increase in performance, maybe 5-7% in IPC. Don't expect to see a huge performance jump. What are the rest of the system specs? Perhaps you'd see a gain in performance from another upgrade.

 

[agello24]

get which ever one is cheaper. dont spend anymore than $70 for either chip, anything higher and your getting ripped off. you can also look at getting an i7 2600. again no more than $70.

 

[Brandon316]

^ indeed but its a given an i5 is a straight quad & an i7 is hyper threaded.

There are many xeons that are straight reiterations of the i5 but with more l3 cache which is non bemeficial for gaming anyway.

Irregardless the lack of ipc on sandy/ivy is whats hurting performance on rust not the lack of threads.

That said, the hyperthreaded ivy xeons have the fastest base & boost clocks on that socket by a fair stretch.

They are not the ones you'll find cheap though.

Xeon 1270/1280/1290 are the faster ones.

You've then got to be careful because your board only support the sandy v1 variations
The v2 are ivy & are not listed as supported on your board.

I think I will go with the 1270(Intel Xeon E3-1270 3.4GHz LGA1155 8MB Quad Core), do I need to know something else before purchasing?

Do you think it would be worth it and will I be able to see any improvement while gaming with it.

That's still a sandy bridge part. You would be getting hyperthreading, which doesn't change gaming performance that much. If you go for an ivy bridge i7, you'd see a small increase in performance, maybe 5-7% in IPC. Don't expect to see a huge performance jump. What are the rest of the system specs? Perhaps you'd see a gain in performance from another upgrade.

Suggest me an affordable chip, I want Xeon since it's cheap and can be compared to an i7.
My current specs:
p67xud3-b3 (LGA1155)
gtx 960 4 gb
i5 2400*(I feel like the chip is the one causing the lag for me)*
8 ram

 

[daswilhelm]

Whats "cheap" to you?

I wouldnt put any money into your current system. Save the money you'd be spending on a cpu, save up another $200 and get a ryzen 3, motherboard and RAM.

 

[Brandon316]

Whats "cheap" to you?

I wouldnt put any money into your current system. Save the money you'd be spending on a cpu, save up another $200 and get a ryzen 3, motherboard and RAM.

Currently I'm not planning on buying a new rig, your last comment was helpful and I think I will go on from there alone since every other comment will be "buy a new PC" while it's not the matter being discussed.

I just feel like the only problem with my PC is the CPU and maybe the PSU.

 

[daswilhelm]

Whats "cheap" to you?

I wouldnt put any money into your current system. Save the money you'd be spending on a cpu, save up another $200 and get a ryzen 3, motherboard and RAM.

Currently I'm not planning on buying a new rig, your last comment was helpful and I think I will go on from there alone since every other comment will be "buy a new PC" while it's not the matter being discussed.

I just feel like the only problem with my PC is the CPU and maybe the PSU.

What is the problem you are having?

I have a friend using an i5 2400 with a 980ti and he plays the newest titles in 4k, no issues. I wouldn't blame your CPU at the moment.

Also what PSU are you using?

 

[Brandon316]

Whats "cheap" to you?

I wouldnt put any money into your current system. Save the money you'd be spending on a cpu, save up another $200 and get a ryzen 3, motherboard and RAM.

Currently I'm not planning on buying a new rig, your last comment was helpful and I think I will go on from there alone since every other comment will be "buy a new PC" while it's not the matter being discussed.

I just feel like the only problem with my PC is the CPU and maybe the PSU.

What is the problem you are having?

I have a friend using an i5 2400 with a 980ti and he plays the newest titles in 4k, no issues. I wouldn't blame your CPU at the moment.

Also what PSU are you using?

My PSU is very old, I bought it in 2011 and I'm pretty sure it has an unknown or a bad company.
(lazy to check, if it will be needed then sure...)

The problem I'm having is lagging in Rust which is one of the only games I currently play(since 2014) - the gameplay isn't smooth, I can upload a video showing what I'm experiencing.
I just want to solve this problem, I love this PC and this is the only problem I'm having with it.

 

[daswilhelm]

What resolution are you running at?

Have you tried turning down settings?

What does your CPU and GPU usage look like?

 

[Brandon316]

What resolution are you running at?

Have you tried turning down settings?

What does your CPU and GPU usage look like?

1220x1220 (I don't like it being high anyways)

I'm playing on low settings, trust me, everyone playing Rust is on low settings since you don't want to die because of lag due to the fact that you can lose materials which hours to get. (in order to have less lag)

This is what I got (screenshot):

link:https://imgur.com/7U2ZWFa


I noticed that when I lag nothing raises, CPU goes to %40 and the memory stays stuck at between 7 to 7.4 most of the time, my GPU doesn't cross the %60.

 

[daswilhelm]

Whats your internet speed and ping?

 

[daswilhelm]

Looks like a memory leak to me. It's not CPU or GPU related.

 

[Brandon316]

Looks like a memory leak to me. It's not CPU or GPU related.

Are you sure? it stays steady around 7.

 

[Brandon316]

Whats your internet speed and ping?

My internet is lit, I'm sure it has nothing to do with anything.

 

[madmatt30]

How much ram do you have installed??

7.4gb im use if you have 8gb installed will be constantly pagefiling .
On an open world game like rust where data is constantly spooled from hard drive that will have a big impact if you're only running a single drive .

Rust has always had massive memory leak issues on some configurations , some systems it uses less than 3gb , others have seen it eat up to 12GB of system ram.

 

[Brandon316]

How much ram do you have installed??

7.4gb im use if you have 8gb installed will be constantly pagefiling .
On an open world game like rust where data is constantly spooled from hard drive that will have a big impact if you're only running a single drive .

Rust has always had massive memory leak issues on some configurations , some systems it uses less than 3gb , others have seen it eat up to 12GB of system ram.

8 ram, two sticks of ram 4GB each.

 

[madmatt30]

https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/7c94mg/ridicilous_ram_usage/

Read the thread ,you are not on your own here -

 

[Brandon316]

https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/7c94mg/ridicilous_ram_usage/

Read the thread ,you are not on your own here -

Alright, I can add more ram would that solve the issue or at least make it playable?