i5-2400 to AMD a good idea?

[Mastersaofan]

Im looking to upgrade my old cpu+ mother board and move to AMD (due to budget restrictions)

If I get an FX 8320e or an FX-6300 with a MSI 970 board will this be good for overclocking?
Buying AMD will let me buy a liquid cooler, PSU and maybe even a SSD with my budget.

I have $400-$430 for my budget.


Going Skylake would be way too expensive. I want to overclock and getting a Skylake rig will only allow me to buy the CPU and a Z-motherboard. I can't even afford to buy DDR4 ram.

(Unless I avoid overclocking and just to with an i5-6400.)
which will save a few bucks and let me skip the PSU or the cooling. But this wont be a change from my i5-2400.


I understand the more practical choice would be getting a Haswell CPU which will also let me salvage my DDR3 memory. But again, this will not allow be to get a liquid cooler and PSU because it would be as expensive as Skylake (DDR4 ram not included)


If I would go Haswell, I am planning on getting a i5-4690k and the cheapest z-mobo I can find.


Getting a PSU and liquid cooler would be essential right? Since I plan to overclock.

I just want a upgrade from my current rig. I don't mind going AMD despite what people say. it is really much much cheaper. I am, on the other hand, worried that It will not be a difference from my i5-2400 even with overclocking - this I need your help with.


I want to play games and do some video editing for my work.

My current rig is:

i5-2400
SpinQ GT heatsink
Gigabyte h61 mobo
GTX 1060 AMP OC
Thermaltake lite 700w
8GB or ram 1333


thank you!


(PS. I don't want to wait for Zen)

 

[Gam3r01]

You really would not be upgrading at all going to AMD.
Intel is your only choice here, and skylake is well within your budget:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI B150M MORTAR Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($86.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($34.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $320.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-31 00:59 EDT-0400

What else did you want to change/add?

 

[Baumy15]

why not upgrade to a 2600/2700? you could probably find one for half your budget and then grab yourself another 8GB ram and what ever else you may need

 

[Ecky]

why not upgrade to a 2600/2700? you could probably find one for half your budget and then grab yourself another 8GB ram and what ever else you may need

This. Simply dropping an i7 2600K or 3770K into your existing motherboard will provide you with a chip that, at stock speeds, will embarrass any overclocked AM3+ CPU.

 

[rhysiam]

I hear from your thread that you're really keen to try out overclocking. Is that because your like to tinker and want to learn, or is that just trying to maximise your bang-for-buck?

I understand the itch to tinker and muck about with OCing, and if that's a real priority for you then I guess you could justify the side grade. But you need to understand that you'd be throwing money away for the "fun" of overclocking.

There's loads of threads on this and I just don't want to re-hash old ground, but the bottom line is that FX processors are just so far behind that they need a significant overclock just to narrow the gap (not even close it) to stock Intel speeds. The second problem is that by the time you get everything you need on the AMD platform to actually achieve that significant overclock, the PSU, a Mobo with sufficient power delivery, a substantial CPU cooler, then you've already reached price-parity with a stock Intel i5 platform. So while you can OC, it's still slightly slower overall, all while running hotter and louder... and that's on the old platform which misses a bunch of newer features.

As I say, if you have your heart set on OCing, go for it. But if bang-for-buck is your priority, just get a modern Intel i5 on a cheap mobo and you'll have better performance at a fraction of the heat, with newer features and without the hassle and stability issues of the OC.

Until Zen (and we're all cheering Zen on), it's extremely difficult to make a case for an FX CPU is any desktop that's mid range or higher, unfortunately.

 

[Mastersaofan]

why not upgrade to a 2600/2700? you could probably find one for half your budget and then grab yourself another 8GB ram and what ever else you may need

This. Simply dropping an i7 2600K or 3770K into your existing motherboard will provide you with a chip that, at stock speeds, will embarrass any overclocked AM3+ CPU.

I live in asia and so far, I have searched for these CPU's and they are usually sold as a bundle with motherboards( Used) which in my estimation was overclocked to high heavens already by quite a bit. Wear and tear for its price isn't really reasonable despite being paired with a overclocking board.

 

[Mastersaofan]

I hear from your thread that you're really keen to try out overclocking. Is that because your like to tinker and want to learn, or is that just trying to maximise your bang-for-buck?

I understand the itch to tinker and muck about with OCing, and if that's a real priority for you then I guess you could justify the side grade. But you need to understand that you'd be throwing money away for the "fun" of overclocking.

There's loads of threads on this and I just don't want to re-hash old ground, but the bottom line is that FX processors are just so far behind that they need a significant overclock just to narrow the gap (not even close it) to stock Intel speeds. The second problem is that by the time you get everything you need on the AMD platform to actually achieve that significant overclock, the PSU, a Mobo with sufficient power delivery, a substantial CPU cooler, then you've already reached price-parity with a stock Intel i5 platform. So while you can OC, it's still slightly slower overall, all while running hotter and louder... and that's on the old platform which misses a bunch of newer features.

As I say, if you have your heart set on OCing, go for it. But if bang-for-buck is your priority, just get a modern Intel i5 on a cheap mobo and you'll have better performance at a fraction of the heat, with newer features and without the hassle and stability issues of the OC.

Until Zen (and we're all cheering Zen on), it's extremely difficult to make a case for an FX CPU is any desktop that's mid range or higher, unfortunately.

You hit the nail right in the head buddy.

This is really the real reason. I do want to try overclocking, tinkering etc. I am fascinated by it recently and might even also give water cooling a go when I save enough money. But I want to see if its worth it buy at least trying to overclock with what little I can afford at the moment.

I do understand and agree with your point and it is well said. AMD isn't really going to cut it and side-grading for just the experience isn't practical and beneficial in the long run.

There are just a bunch of threads and posts about these AMD cards that sometimes makes me wonder if they are worth it. They are so attractively cheap and affordable that even with that alone, it makes me want to migrate to AMD.

 

[Endeavor01]

Im looking to upgrade my old cpu+ mother board and move to AMD (due to budget restrictions)

If I get an FX 8320e or an FX-6300 with a MSI 970 board will this be good for overclocking?
Buying AMD will let me buy a liquid cooler, PSU and maybe even a SSD with my budget.

I have $400-$430 for my budget.


Going Skylake would be way too expensive. I want to overclock and getting a Skylake rig will only allow me to buy the CPU and a Z-motherboard. I can't even afford to buy DDR4 ram.

(Unless I avoid overclocking and just to with an i5-6400.)
which will save a few bucks and let me skip the PSU or the cooling. But this wont be a change from my i5-2400.


I understand the more practical choice would be getting a Haswell CPU which will also let me salvage my DDR3 memory. But again, this will not allow be to get a liquid cooler and PSU because it would be as expensive as Skylake (DDR4 ram not included)


If I would go Haswell, I am planning on getting a i5-4690k and the cheapest z-mobo I can find.


Getting a PSU and liquid cooler would be essential right? Since I plan to overclock.

I just want a upgrade from my current rig. I don't mind going AMD despite what people say. it is really much much cheaper. I am, on the other hand, worried that It will not be a difference from my i5-2400 even with overclocking - this I need your help with.


I want to play games and do some video editing for my work.

My current rig is:

i5-2400
SpinQ GT heatsink
Gigabyte h61 mobo
GTX 1060 AMP OC
Thermaltake lite 700w
8GB or ram 1333


thank you!


(PS. I don't want to wait for Zen)

I use an i5 2500k daily, if you are only gaming this is your best option and it's a cheap upgrade. The IPC difference between Sandy Bridge and Skylake is only 20% and since the 2500k and 2600k are easy to overclock (I've reached 5Ghz stable on my custom 120mm watercooling) a 4Ghz overclock on air would easily match/beat a stock skylake 6500.

AMD's current CPUs have very low IPC so you do not want to go with that.

If your budget is $400 then I'd advise a 2600k (cuz why not) off ebay and a decent watercooling loop.

 

[Mastersaofan]

Im looking to upgrade my old cpu+ mother board and move to AMD (due to budget restrictions)

If I get an FX 8320e or an FX-6300 with a MSI 970 board will this be good for overclocking?
Buying AMD will let me buy a liquid cooler, PSU and maybe even a SSD with my budget.

I have $400-$430 for my budget.


Going Skylake would be way too expensive. I want to overclock and getting a Skylake rig will only allow me to buy the CPU and a Z-motherboard. I can't even afford to buy DDR4 ram.

(Unless I avoid overclocking and just to with an i5-6400.)
which will save a few bucks and let me skip the PSU or the cooling. But this wont be a change from my i5-2400.


I understand the more practical choice would be getting a Haswell CPU which will also let me salvage my DDR3 memory. But again, this will not allow be to get a liquid cooler and PSU because it would be as expensive as Skylake (DDR4 ram not included)


If I would go Haswell, I am planning on getting a i5-4690k and the cheapest z-mobo I can find.


Getting a PSU and liquid cooler would be essential right? Since I plan to overclock.

I just want a upgrade from my current rig. I don't mind going AMD despite what people say. it is really much much cheaper. I am, on the other hand, worried that It will not be a difference from my i5-2400 even with overclocking - this I need your help with.


I want to play games and do some video editing for my work.

My current rig is:

i5-2400
SpinQ GT heatsink
Gigabyte h61 mobo
GTX 1060 AMP OC
Thermaltake lite 700w
8GB or ram 1333


thank you!


(PS. I don't want to wait for Zen)

I use an i5 2500k daily, if you are only gaming this is your best option and it's a cheap upgrade. The IPC difference between Sandy Bridge and Skylake is only 20% and since the 2500k and 2600k are easy to overclock (I've reached 5Ghz stable on my custom 120mm watercooling) a 4Ghz overclock on air would easily match/beat a stock skylake 6500.

AMD's current CPUs have very low IPC so you do not want to go with that.

If your budget is $400 then I'd advise a 2600k (cuz why not) off ebay and a decent watercooling loop.

As much as I would like an i5-2500k, Its really hard to find a motherboard for this that can overclock (bnew or used) but it is a good suggestion.

 

[Endeavor01]

Im looking to upgrade my old cpu+ mother board and move to AMD (due to budget restrictions)

If I get an FX 8320e or an FX-6300 with a MSI 970 board will this be good for overclocking?
Buying AMD will let me buy a liquid cooler, PSU and maybe even a SSD with my budget.

I have $400-$430 for my budget.


Going Skylake would be way too expensive. I want to overclock and getting a Skylake rig will only allow me to buy the CPU and a Z-motherboard. I can't even afford to buy DDR4 ram.

(Unless I avoid overclocking and just to with an i5-6400.)
which will save a few bucks and let me skip the PSU or the cooling. But this wont be a change from my i5-2400.


I understand the more practical choice would be getting a Haswell CPU which will also let me salvage my DDR3 memory. But again, this will not allow be to get a liquid cooler and PSU because it would be as expensive as Skylake (DDR4 ram not included)


If I would go Haswell, I am planning on getting a i5-4690k and the cheapest z-mobo I can find.


Getting a PSU and liquid cooler would be essential right? Since I plan to overclock.

I just want a upgrade from my current rig. I don't mind going AMD despite what people say. it is really much much cheaper. I am, on the other hand, worried that It will not be a difference from my i5-2400 even with overclocking - this I need your help with.


I want to play games and do some video editing for my work.

My current rig is:

i5-2400
SpinQ GT heatsink
Gigabyte h61 mobo
GTX 1060 AMP OC
Thermaltake lite 700w
8GB or ram 1333


thank you!


(PS. I don't want to wait for Zen)

I use an i5 2500k daily, if you are only gaming this is your best option and it's a cheap upgrade. The IPC difference between Sandy Bridge and Skylake is only 20% and since the 2500k and 2600k are easy to overclock (I've reached 5Ghz stable on my custom 120mm watercooling) a 4Ghz overclock on air would easily match/beat a stock skylake 6500.

AMD's current CPUs have very low IPC so you do not want to go with that.

If your budget is $400 then I'd advise a 2600k (cuz why not) off ebay and a decent watercooling loop.

As much as I would like an i5-2500k, Its really hard to find a motherboard for this that can overclock (bnew or used) but it is a good suggestion.

oh you don't have an overclocking board already. In that case haswell is probably your best bet with a 4690k. Good luck and happy overclocking