i5 3330 vs fx 6300 for gaming?

[adam22-1360818]

Hi, I have 7870 and now I have to buy CPU, 6300 - 95€ and 3330 - 130€ or 3470 - 157€, what is better and futureproof? I wanna spend as little money as possible with good price/perfomance ratio. I am gonna play Crysis 3, BF3, Metro, Mirrors Edge, COD, mainly FPS games.

 

[Uther39]

If you want to save money then get the 6300 as its a great match for your 7870.

 

[bigcyco1]

If it's for gaming get the i5-3470 if you want to overclock then get the 6300

 

[adam22-1360818]

bigcyco1 do you realize that its 60€/80$ more and I am on budget?

 

[bigcyco1]

Yes i do realize that.Which is why i suggested two different options and mentioned their plus.

 

[Uther39]

bigcyco1 do you realize that its 60€/80$ more and I am on budget?

Hold on there adam, bigcyco1 recc it for you as it was on your original post as an option, if its not an option then dont list it as one, if your budget is that tight then get the 6300 but also buy a half decent motherboard and aftermarket cooler...

GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD 990FX

Arctic Cooling Freezer A30 Quiet CPU Cooler

 

[bigcyco1]

If you want to save money then get the 6300

 

[bigcyco1]

bigcyco1 do you realize that its 60€/80$ more and I am on budget?

Hold on there adam, bigcyco1 recc it for you as it was on your original post as an option, if its not an option then dont list it as one, if your budget is that tight then get the 6300 but also buy a half decent motherboard and aftermarket cooler...

GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD 990FX

Arctic Cooling Freezer A30 Quiet CPU Cooler

+1

 

[adam22-1360818]

Will it be bad CPU if I do not OC it? Because cooler(27€) and board(37€) costs more than I planned, planned - ASUS M5 A97 R2.0.

 

[BSim500]

Another option if you have a 7870 and don't need an iGPU - what about an i5-3350P (cheaper than i5-3470 but won't work without a GFX card)? Ignore the "you can't overclock non-K Intel chips" - yes you can by around 600Mhz with Turbo Boost. The i5-3470 can hit 4GHz, and the 3350P can hit 3.7GHz.

They also run almost 100w cooler too...
http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/586/bench/Power.png

If you're really, really on a tight budget, the FX 6300 is cheaper, and a little slower, but you do need a decent cooler because it chucks out way more heat than the i5's.

 

[adam22-1360818]

If 3470 really consumes 100W less than 6300 in games its no brainer, because I will be gaming 3h / day and 3h other stuff. I am not on so tight budget but I do not want to spend so much money just for 2-3 FPS difference in some games. 3350P costs 153 € so it is totally bad option. So is 3470 with 7870 worth the 50€ more because with Intel the mobo will be for 58€ instead of 68€ for AMD? And will that intel last for games in few years?

 

[BSim500]

Turbo boost is not the same as overclocking. It does increase the clock speed slightly above the stock clock, but it is done automatically and only if the temperature is low enough. And it is only for short bursts, not sustained 24/7. Overclocking is going beyond the turbo boost clock speed. So, really, YOU CAN'T.

This is false information. On a "Z" motherboard, you can easily manually set the multiplier to the highest TB setting + "4-bins limited overclock" (+400Mhz). With Multi-Core Enhancement enabled, everything runs at the highest peak frequency regardless of load. I have an i5-3570 (non-K) and it runs permanently at 4.2GHz under prime & video editing load without any "time limits" - that's 800MHz above stock 3.4GHz.

So really, YES YOU CAN!

 

[adam22-1360818]

I am getting this board for intel MSI B75A-G43.

 

[adam22-1360818]

Can we go back to my question please? I do not plan OC at all.

 

[BSim500]

OK, Obama. The only reason you can do that is because of your motherboard. The CPU itself is still locked. The 6300 isn't.

Which is utterly irrelevant considering he just said in plain English - he doesn't want to OC and is on a budget, so all this talk about "liquid coolers at 5GHz" is a bit pointless...

An i5 is generally more expensive but faster, despite lower clocks. In fact in many games, the 6-core FX 6300 can barely beat a dual-core i3 which is at the same price, 200MHz slower and has 1/3rd of the cores:-
http://www.techspot.com/review/586-amd-fx-8350-fx-6300/page6.html

A quad-core is obviously more future-proof, but it goes to show how GHz & core-count isn't everything - by a very large margin.

"Can we go back to my question please? I do not plan OC at all."

Sure Adam. You don't need a "Z" board if you're not going to OC and your B board will be fine if you go the Intel route.

I am not on so tight budget but I do not want to spend so much money just for 2-3 FPS difference in some games.

Fair enough.

So is 3470 with 7870 worth the 50€ more because with Intel the mobo will be for 58€ instead of 68€ for AMD?

Personally I went Intel for the higher efficiency and especially much lower power consumption (which if you're paying the electric bill closes the price gap even more over 3-4 years).

And will that intel last for games in few years?

Should do. The rate at which old processors have become obsolete has significantly slowed over the past few years. A lot of people today are running older i5-2x00 chips, etc, with little problem despite being 2 generations out of date.

 

[pawpwner]

Can we go back to my question please? I do not plan OC at all.

Hi,
6 cores aren't really that much of a future proof because when the games will start using 6 or 8 cores any new processor with the same amount of cores will toast it, though it will perform very well and might even better than core i5 3470 or 3330.

But as of now the performance when you are gaming is something like this 3470>3330>6300 you said you aren't planing to overclock, but if you really want to save money i suggest to get 6300 and overclock it (it has the best price/performance ration even when it's not overclocked imo) or get the 3470 instead of 3330 because it's only 27 eur difference.Also don't be scared of overclocking it's very easy.

Hey, but there are still some other processor you might want to consider like 6350 or 8300 which are great for oveclocking and it has great performance.

 

[adam22-1360818]

You got me , I will take 3470. Thanks for all. I clicked wrong best solution, I meant BSim500's solution. Sorry.

 

[pawpwner]

Thanks for best answer...

 

[Ags1]

Turbo boost is not the same as overclocking. It does increase the clock speed slightly above the stock clock, but it is done automatically and only if the temperature is low enough. And it is only for short bursts, not sustained 24/7. Overclocking is going beyond the turbo boost clock speed. So, really, YOU CAN'T.

This is false information. On a "Z" motherboard, you can easily manually set the multiplier to the highest TB setting + "4-bins limited overclock" (+400Mhz). With Multi-Core Enhancement enabled, everything runs at the highest peak frequency regardless of load. I have an i5-3570 (non-K) and it runs permanently at 4.2GHz under prime & video editing load without any "time limits" - that's 800MHz above stock 3.4GHz.

So really, YES YOU CAN!

Very interesting - I have learnt something! What motherboard and cooler are you using?

 

[BSim500]

Sounds like you have a i3 CPU. I do too, but mine is called the i5-3210m. They are basically the same exact thing.

No, I definitely have an i5-3570 (non-K) as stated earlier in the thread:-

Very interesting - I have learnt something! What motherboard and cooler are you using?

Asus P8Z77-M + CM 212 EVO. Barely hits 58c full quad load at 4.2GHz with fan speed of 800-900rpm. The +600-800MHz "limited overclock" for non-K chips isn't a new thing - it's been on i5's since Sandy Bridge came out (though sadly removed from Haswell):-
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/3

It does require a "Z" board though. Multi-core Enhancement is a feature that further optimizes it by treating all 3T/4T loads as if they were 1T loads, and runs them at 4.2/4.2/4.2 instead of 4.2/4.1/4.0 GHz. In fact, if you could get away with a stable 5% BCLK on top, you could take it up to 4.4GHz for a 3570 or 4.2GHz for a 3470 - a full 1Ghz OC isn't bad for a "locked" chip!

 

[bigcyco1]

Alright fellas time to move on thread is done best answer selected.

 

[BSim500]

"In the case above, the fastest your chip will run is 4.1GHz but with only one core active." Interesting. That isn't overclocking your CPU. That is a boost of a single core and only if the temps are right. If you are playing a game with 4 cores active a 3570 isn't going to be running at 4.2 GHz.

Hi, if your motherboard supports "Multi-Core Enhancement" (as many Asus, Gigabyte & Asrock Z77 boards now do), then it will indeed ignore load-based Turbo Boost and run everything at highest 4.2GHz even 4T loaded:-
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6214/multicore-enhancement-the-debate-about-free-mhz

You still won't get higher than x42 multiplier on a "locked" 3570 CPU, but you can indeed squeeze 4.2GHz under all loads out of it with a decent motherboard with MCE enabled.