i5 3570k vs i5 4690k

[synario]

Clearly the i5 4690k is better.

When using single core applications, the 4690 has a huge lead.

However, when using all cores, the 3570k is essentially 'on-par' with the 4690.

I was dead-set on spending almost 400 dollars on 8gb of ram, z97, and i5 4690k, but now I see a deal on craigslist for a z77 and i5 3570k for only 200 dollars. Ram is cheap and easy to find.

If my goal is to have a cpu that will last me gaming-wise for the next 5 years, is it really worth it to spend an extra 150 dollars getting the 4690k??

My overall budget for my new gaming PC is 500 dollars, and that extra 150 dollars could allow me to get a GTX 970 or even a GTX 980 probably...

http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/sop/5126771793.html

 

[Darkbreeze]

The 3570k, while not performing nearly as well as the 4690k, since it's a couple of generations back isn't terrible even now. However, a purchase of the 3570k is probably not going to offer as much longevity as the 4690k, and usually doesn't overclock as well either. I'd say it's worth the price difference, depending on what you do, but going the cheaper route in order to get a bigger card may make a lot more sense.

If however you want the CPU to last you another five years and still be somewhat relevant then I'd bite the bullet and go with the 4690k because I doubt the 3570k is going to provide you with five years worth of relevance before it becomes a problem.

 

[guanyu210379]

Yes, i5 4690k is indeed better than the i5 3570k but not that far behind.
If you can get i5 4690k and combine it with GTX970, this would be ideal. I would really push a bit more money to get i5 4690k.
However, if you do not have enough money, i5 3570k and GTX970 is not bad.
BTW, Forget GTX980, it costs quite a lot more than GTX970 but it is only around 10-15% faster.

 

[synario]

I have a hard time believing what you guys are saying.

What I have heard in the past is that the GPU is always more important. If you have an "ok" cpu and a great GPU, you can run anything.

i5 2500k, for example is 4 years old. Would somebody with an i5 2500k and a gtx 970 really notice a difference in any current game in comparison to say, a i5 4690k with a gtx 970?

heres a video of somebody a gtx 970 and a i5 750 running witcher 3 on ultra settings with very playable FPS.

In your opinion, if I can negotiate down the price to say, 170 dollars does your guys answer change then?

I5 3570k/motherboard/ram at say, 230 dollars VS i5 4690/mobo/ram at 350 dollars?

 

[Darkbreeze]

Yes, they would. AND, more and more games are relying heavily on the CPU than they did in the past. Try to play Witcher 3 or GTA V with a low end cpu and you'll find yourself with a basketfull of troubles depending on your settings and resolution. You can easily get by with the 2500k or 3570K for now, but if these recent games are any indication of a trend, which they almost surely are, then the days of being able to use a weak CPU with a strong GPU are pretty much numbered.

Either way you go, you'll have a decent machine.

 

[LookItsRain]

The 3570k and 4690k are within 10-15% of each other performance wise, the gap is not as big as people say it is, sandy bridge was the last big performance upgrade.

 

[guanyu210379]

My answer is still the same:
"Yes, i5 4690k is indeed better than the i5 3570k but not that far behind.
If you can get i5 4690k and combine it with GTX970, this would be ideal. I would really push a bit more money to get i5 4690k.
However, if you do not have enough money, i5 3570k and GTX970 is not bad."

Does i5 3570k worth the money?
i5 3570k is weaker than i5 4690k but not that far and can still be used for a very solid gaming PC. It is not yet a bottleneck for GTX970.
So, I will return the question to you,
Do you have enough money for i5 4690k+GTX970? or do you have enough money only for the i5 3570k+GTX970?
Take the one you can afford, the answer is simple.

 

[Superkoopatrooper]

The 3570k, while not performing nearly as well as the 4690k, since it's a couple of generations back isn't terrible even now. However, a purchase of the 3570k is probably not going to offer as much longevity as the 4690k, and usually doesn't overclock as well either. I'd say it's worth the price difference, depending on what you do, but going the cheaper route in order to get a bigger card may make a lot more sense.

If however you want the CPU to last you another five years and still be somewhat relevant then I'd bite the bullet and go with the 4690k because I doubt the 3570k is going to provide you with five years worth of relevance before it becomes a problem.

A 3570k overclocks almost as well as sandybridge and much better then haswell. I have mine running at 4.8ghz with 1.3v. With that said, you really wouldn't notice a difference and I'd eat my hat in the future if a game can run on a 4670k and not on a 3570k. Those 4670ks are already clocked near max. Also, its worth mentioning with my overclock my cpu doesn't pass 62c with a phanteks cooler. All this in my silent optimized define r4 with all fans set to 5v. A lot of what you said is just flat out wrong. Ivybridge runs much cooler then haswell. Intel shoved voltage regulators into haswell causing the heat up. Unless you compare a 3.5ghz 3570k (stock) with the 4670k then they are within 5-15% depending on game, clock for clock.