I5 4440S to 4670K or?

[mrsweet1991]

Hi All,

I'm planning on upgrading my CPU in a day or so in order to make sure I can max out Watch dogs when it comes out. The recommended CPU for watch dogs is a 3770k which is no good for me as I have a socket 1150, so I was told a 4670K would be an equivalent upgrade.

What's others opinions on this, would you recommend this particular CPU for my needs or something else?

Thanks,
Dan.

 

[unknownofprob]

A 4670k is close enough to 3770k in gaming so that's certainly sufficient for the games you want to play maxed out, the 3770k uses ivy bridge architecture whilst the 4670k uses Haswell, which has been proven to be better. That said the i7 has more advantages than i5's in other tasks but in gaming they have been proven to be at a unnoticeable level when it comes to performance. with 4 Intel cores, you'll be set for a couple more years with that CPU.

I would stay with the 4670k as since it's a "k" processor it's unlocked and those other 4670, 4440, 4570 ect. don't have no where near the oc potential of the 4670k, which is always good for the future as one day you'll want to OC your CPU as games require more CPU power.

 

[bicycle_repair_man]

The 4670k is essentially the Haswell version of the 3570k Ivy Bridge. You only need a "k" series CPU if you want to overclock, otherwise the price premium over a regular 4670 makes no sense. In order to overclock, you also need a motherboard with a Z87 chipset and an aftermarket CPU cooler.

If you can't, or have no interest in overclocking, a regular 4670 will do a fine job.

 

[CTurbo]

i5 4570 for $189 or Xeon e3 1230v3 for $244

 

[mrsweet1991]

A 4670k is close enough to 3770k in gaming so that's certainly sufficient for the games you want to play maxed out, the 3770k uses ivy bridge architecture whilst the 4670k uses Haswell, which has been proven to be better. That said the i7 has more advantages than i5's in other tasks but in gaming they have been proven to be at a unnoticeable level when it comes to performance. with 4 Intel cores, you'll be set for a couple more years with that CPU.

I would stay with the 4670k as since it's a "k" processor it's unlocked and those other 4670, 4440, 4570 ect. don't have no where near the oc potential of the 4670k, which is always good for the future as one day you'll want to OC your CPU as games require more CPU power.

Thank you very much for your detailed input, that's cleared things well up for me and I feel much more confident in buying the 4670k now. Just have top wait for the 4440s to finish and then I'll order a new 4670k off Amazon. And Wow at your rig, what an absolute beast!

 

[mrsweet1991]

i5 4570 for $189 or Xeon e3 1230v3 for $244

Thank you for your input Cturbo

 

[CTurbo]

What do you mean you have to wait for the 4440s to finish?


What motherboard do you have???

 

[mrsweet1991]

The 4670k is essentially the Haswell version of the 3570k Ivy Bridge. You only need a "k" series CPU if you want to overclock, otherwise the price premium over a regular 4670 makes no sense. In order to overclock, you also need a motherboard with a Z87 chipset and an aftermarket CPU cooler.

If you can't, or have no interest in overclocking, a regular 4670 will do a fine job.

Hi mate,

thanks for your input and adding about the requirement for a Z87 chipset for over clocking. I haven't got a Z87 chipset at the moment but buying the K would be a great idea because I could probably pick up a motherboard with the Z87 in the future if I ever did need an overclock. In addition right now on Amazon there is a £9 difference between the K and non K version.

 

[CTurbo]

If you don't have a Z87 motherboard, I strongly recommend the 4570 over the 4670 based on value alone($30 difference) or if you can afford it, the e3 1230v3 since it would be equal to the 3770k at stock speeds.

 

[mrsweet1991]

Hi Cturbo, excluding over clocking would the Z87 prove any better than the crap motherboard I have now? If so.. any cheap but half descent Z87 boards you'd recommend?

 

[CTurbo]

Z87 motherboards have all of the features that Intel has to offer consumers, but overclocking and SLI support are the main two features that the Z87 chipset offers that the other chipsets like the B85 and H87 do not. The cheaper Z87 motherboards do not even offer SLI support. I am not a fan of overclocking so I always recommend the B85 or H87 motherboards, because they have all of the important useful features that the budget H81 chipsets do not.

 

[mrsweet1991]

Z87 motherboards have all of the features that Intel has to offer consumers, but overclocking and SLI support are the main two features that the Z87 chipset offers that the other chipsets like the B85 and H87 do not. The cheaper Z87 motherboards do not even offer SLI support. I am not a fan of overclocking so I always recommend the B85 or H87 motherboards, because they have all of the important useful features that the budget H81 chipsets do not.

Thank you very much for clearing that up, well I went ahead and purchased a 4670k anyway simply because I feel it's more future proof with having the over clocking ability there. When ever that time does come it should only cost around £40 - £50 I reckon to purchase a Z78 Motherboard, and at the moment I have no intentions of doing an over clock unless it really is necessary. In regards to the other processor you recommended it was around the same price so again this re-enforced my decision for a 4670k

Thanks for all your help

 

[unknownofprob]

A 4670k is close enough to 3770k in gaming so that's certainly sufficient for the games you want to play maxed out, the 3770k uses ivy bridge architecture whilst the 4670k uses Haswell, which has been proven to be better. That said the i7 has more advantages than i5's in other tasks but in gaming they have been proven to be at a unnoticeable level when it comes to performance. with 4 Intel cores, you'll be set for a couple more years with that CPU.

I would stay with the 4670k as since it's a "k" processor it's unlocked and those other 4670, 4440, 4570 ect. don't have no where near the oc potential of the 4670k, which is always good for the future as one day you'll want to OC your CPU as games require more CPU power.

Thank you very much for your detailed input, that's cleared things well up for me and I feel much more confident in buying the 4670k now. Just have top wait for the 4440s to finish and then I'll order a new 4670k off Amazon. And Wow at your rig, what an absolute beast!

It is quite a beast, though my Gigabyte R9 290X has this unbearable whining noise, so I'm going to be replacing it for a MSI Lightning R9 290X or maybe wait and get a R9 295X2 with liquid cooled loop (Dual R9 290X's on same PCB)

 

[mrsweet1991]

A 4670k is close enough to 3770k in gaming so that's certainly sufficient for the games you want to play maxed out, the 3770k uses ivy bridge architecture whilst the 4670k uses Haswell, which has been proven to be better. That said the i7 has more advantages than i5's in other tasks but in gaming they have been proven to be at a unnoticeable level when it comes to performance. with 4 Intel cores, you'll be set for a couple more years with that CPU.

I would stay with the 4670k as since it's a "k" processor it's unlocked and those other 4670, 4440, 4570 ect. don't have no where near the oc potential of the 4670k, which is always good for the future as one day you'll want to OC your CPU as games require more CPU power.

Thank you very much for your detailed input, that's cleared things well up for me and I feel much more confident in buying the 4670k now. Just have top wait for the 4440s to finish and then I'll order a new 4670k off Amazon. And Wow at your rig, what an absolute beast!

It is quite a beast, though my Gigabyte R9 290X has this unbearable whining noise, so I'm going to be replacing it for a MSI Lightning R9 290X or maybe wait and get a R9 295X2 with liquid cooled loop (Dual R9 290X's on same PCB)

Hi again,

I did read the MSI version cools much better and is a lot more quite. What did you think of the Kraken G10 cooler for the R290x? I've seen some awesome temperature drops, the only problem (which seems to be sorted now) was that it didn't cool the VRM's properly and people have had to buy a good number of heat sinks to compensate for the lack of coverage the Kraken provides. Other than that it seemed pretty promising

And yes I have read about the new 295x2, looks awesome but I wonder what the price tag would be? I highly doubt it would be anywhere near the new titan coming out though.

 

[logainofhades]

Z87 motherboards have all of the features that Intel has to offer consumers, but overclocking and SLI support are the main two features that the Z87 chipset offers that the other chipsets like the B85 and H87 do not. The cheaper Z87 motherboards do not even offer SLI support. I am not a fan of overclocking so I always recommend the B85 or H87 motherboards, because they have all of the important useful features that the budget H81 chipsets do not.

The Z87 extreme 3 is fairly cheap for a Z87 and supports SLI. It is so close in price to the h87 pro4, that I normally recommend it over an H87.

 

[unknownofprob]

A 4670k is close enough to 3770k in gaming so that's certainly sufficient for the games you want to play maxed out, the 3770k uses ivy bridge architecture whilst the 4670k uses Haswell, which has been proven to be better. That said the i7 has more advantages than i5's in other tasks but in gaming they have been proven to be at a unnoticeable level when it comes to performance. with 4 Intel cores, you'll be set for a couple more years with that CPU.

I would stay with the 4670k as since it's a "k" processor it's unlocked and those other 4670, 4440, 4570 ect. don't have no where near the oc potential of the 4670k, which is always good for the future as one day you'll want to OC your CPU as games require more CPU power.

Thank you very much for your detailed input, that's cleared things well up for me and I feel much more confident in buying the 4670k now. Just have top wait for the 4440s to finish and then I'll order a new 4670k off Amazon. And Wow at your rig, what an absolute beast!

It is quite a beast, though my Gigabyte R9 290X has this unbearable whining noise, so I'm going to be replacing it for a MSI Lightning R9 290X or maybe wait and get a R9 295X2 with liquid cooled loop (Dual R9 290X's on same PCB)

Hi again,

I did read the MSI version cools much better and is a lot more quite. What did you think of the Kraken G10 cooler for the R290x? I've seen some awesome temperature drops, the only problem (which seems to be sorted now) was that it didn't cool the VRM's properly and people have had to buy a good number of heat sinks to compensate for the lack of coverage the Kraken provides. Other than that it seemed pretty promising

And yes I have read about the new 295x2, looks awesome but I wonder what the price tag would be? I highly doubt it would be anywhere near the new titan coming out though.

Oh, This GPU will crust the new titan as it has dual GPU's. Yes that cooler you mentioned is a very good one as liquid + Hot Hawaii GPU means ultra cool and ultra performance.

 

[mrsweet1991]

A 4670k is close enough to 3770k in gaming so that's certainly sufficient for the games you want to play maxed out, the 3770k uses ivy bridge architecture whilst the 4670k uses Haswell, which has been proven to be better. That said the i7 has more advantages than i5's in other tasks but in gaming they have been proven to be at a unnoticeable level when it comes to performance. with 4 Intel cores, you'll be set for a couple more years with that CPU.

I would stay with the 4670k as since it's a "k" processor it's unlocked and those other 4670, 4440, 4570 ect. don't have no where near the oc potential of the 4670k, which is always good for the future as one day you'll want to OC your CPU as games require more CPU power.

Thank you very much for your detailed input, that's cleared things well up for me and I feel much more confident in buying the 4670k now. Just have top wait for the 4440s to finish and then I'll order a new 4670k off Amazon. And Wow at your rig, what an absolute beast!

It is quite a beast, though my Gigabyte R9 290X has this unbearable whining noise, so I'm going to be replacing it for a MSI Lightning R9 290X or maybe wait and get a R9 295X2 with liquid cooled loop (Dual R9 290X's on same PCB)

Hi again,

I did read the MSI version cools much better and is a lot more quite. What did you think of the Kraken G10 cooler for the R290x? I've seen some awesome temperature drops, the only problem (which seems to be sorted now) was that it didn't cool the VRM's properly and people have had to buy a good number of heat sinks to compensate for the lack of coverage the Kraken provides. Other than that it seemed pretty promising

And yes I have read about the new 295x2, looks awesome but I wonder what the price tag would be? I highly doubt it would be anywhere near the new titan coming out though.

Oh, This GPU will crust the new titan as it has dual GPU's. Yes that cooler you mentioned is a very good one as liquid + Hot Hawaii GPU means ultra cool and ultra performance.

Hi mate,

Sorry I wasn't clear on what I meant, there's a "Titan Z" coming out which is a dual titan which will be a competitor to this 295x2. But I still think AMD will get the better on a price/performance ratio which is what I really love about AMD.

And if this new 295x2 cools much better it will be one solid graphics card to have

 

[unknownofprob]

that sounds pretty beast, but I like the sound of a 1024-bit memory interface. The new R9 295X2 is liquid cooled, a quite good cooler which will be insane. It is projected to start at $1499 USD, but hopefully it gets a huge price cut like the 7990, now that'll be the day I get excited.