i5-4460 & GTX 750 Ti - BOTTLENECK ?!

[ukLz]

Hello, folks. Few months ago, I bought new PC.

Specs:
Intel Core i5-4460
8GB of DDR3 RAM 1600MHz
MSI GTX 750 Ti 2GB OC
HDD 1TB 7200RPM
PSU 500W

Is GTX 750 Ti TOO WEAK GPU for 4460 ? My friend told me that I <mod edit> up a bit because I bought it along with 4460. He said that 950 or 960 / R9 270X or R9 380 would be perfect GPUs for such CPU which is just like mine.

Is it truth, and, what to do?

Honestly, I noticed that games are not running that good as they're supposed to. Games I tried are: Hitman Absolution, DiRT 3, Sniper Elite 3, BF3, BF Hardline, Watch_Dogs and others..

And I'm not satisfied how is it performing in Sniper Elite 3, Dirt 3 and BF Hardline..

All of those 3 games, I played on 1080p and everything on High-Ultra, and FPS WENT EVEN BELOW THAN 40 !!!

How is that possible? Is 750 Ti really such weak and bad GPU for these 3 games?

Please help.

Mod Edit - Please watch the language

 

[Yoann Teodosieff]

My friend don't freak out but the 750 Ti is a entry level GPU which would mean that it isn't going to run all the newest titles on ULTRA.

Bottleneck is when the GPU is too "strong" for the CPU not the other way around.

The GPUs your friend told you are kinda outdated but still better than the 750ti.

When you're not satisfied with how it performs in the games play them on lower settings or buy yourself a new GPU and a new PSU.

 

[rgd1101]

My friend don't freak out but the 750 Ti is a entry level GPU which would mean that it isn't going to run all the newest titles on ULTRA.

Bottleneck is when the GPU is too "strong" for the CPU not the other way around.

The GPUs your friend told you are kinda outdated but still better than the 750ti.

When you're not satisfied with how it performs in the games play them on lower settings or buy yourself a new GPU and a new PSU.

bottleneck can go both way, GPU vs CPU, not just GPU to CPU

 

[frank_hnd]

My friend don't freak out but the 750 Ti is a entry level GPU which would mean that it isn't going to run all the newest titles on ULTRA.

Bottleneck is when the GPU is too "strong" for the CPU not the other way around.

The GPUs your friend told you are kinda outdated but still better than the 750ti.

When you're not satisfied with how it performs in the games play them on lower settings or buy yourself a new GPU and a new PSU.

bottleneck can go both way, GPU vs CPU, not just GPU to CPU

^ this is correct, but generally people worry about bottlenecking a GPU with a bad CPU and not the other way around since what you want is to get the most out of the graphics card.

OP, your CPU is great and your setup is fine. if you are unhappy with gaming performance just get a new GPU that falls within your budget. RX470/480 - GTX1060 3GB/6GB are all great choices for 1080p

 

[Polar Trap]

My old i5-4460 doesn't bottleneck my 960 at all, you should be fine.

 

[ukLz]

My friend don't freak out but the 750 Ti is a entry level GPU which would mean that it isn't going to run all the newest titles on ULTRA.

Bottleneck is when the GPU is too "strong" for the CPU not the other way around.

The GPUs your friend told you are kinda outdated but still better than the 750ti.

When you're not satisfied with how it performs in the games play them on lower settings or buy yourself a new GPU and a new PSU.

bottleneck can go both way, GPU vs CPU, not just GPU to CPU

^ this is correct, but generally people worry about bottlenecking a GPU with a bad CPU and not the other way around since what you want is to get the most out of the graphics card.

OP, your CPU is great and your setup is fine. if you are unhappy with gaming performance just get a new GPU that falls within your budget. RX470/480 - GTX1060 3GB/6GB are all great choices for 1080p

Oh okay..
And, would GTX 1050 Ti be great choice for my CPU ?

I know that I could get some better like GTX 1070, but since 1050 Ti is kinda cheap but still good for 1080p gaming, should I buy it and sell GTX 750 Ti ?

 

[Ecky]

I was researching this lately, and the 1050Ti has one of the worse price to performance ratios of the new cards. The 1050, 1060 3GB, 470 and 480 are better in that respect.

Forget about bottlenecks. CPU and GPU load are largely independent of each other. It's better to ask:

1) Can my CPU provide the framerates I want, in the games I play?

2) Can my GPU run the graphical settings I want at the framerates I want?

If your GPU is not as fast as you'd like, you can still turn down your graphical settings to achieve your desired framerates. If your CPU can't deliver the frames you want, you can only replace your CPU.

 

[ukLz]

Understood, @Ecky.

Also, I forgot to mention something from the beggining of this topic.

Well, let's use Battlefield Hardline as an example.

Okay, so.. I watched some PC benchmarks for my CPU, GPU, RAM and the guy who was recording that had 55+ FPS in Hardline - playing on Ultra, 1080p .

When I tried the same, my FPS was terribly low: ~30 (Ultra 1080p)

I've also already carefully checked whether he had some different or better components in his PC which may increase his Framerate on such graphic settings.

No. There weren't any differences. Maybe the only difference was that his CPU and GPU were getting higher temperature than mine, and difference was probably because he had 2× 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz, while I had 1 stick of 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM.

I felt so disappointed and then I tried to lower my ingame resolution. From 1920x1080 to 1440x900. And my FPS went even above 70 !

Which was.. pretty amazing!

Then I figured out that my MSI GTX 750 Ti 2GB OC isn't meant for 1080p gaming, yet for 720p.

Then I just realized how stupid I was for purchasing GTX 750 Ti , instead of some good GPU such as 960 or R9 380.

But, afterall, I still can't conclude why that guy had ~60 FPS in BF Hardline playing on Ultra on 1080p, while I had only misarble 30fps ?

Is there even some logical explanation, or my GPU is simply bad with low quality?

Or maybe even my PSU doesn't make enough electricity for GPU to work good ?

 

[Ecky]

Temperature makes no difference to performance unless it's high enough that your parts are throttling. I would be astounded if a 750Ti could run that game on Ultra, considering it's an entry level/budget card. Chances are, he had forced anti-aliasing off in drivers or something along those lines.

Since turning your graphical settings down resulting in framerates as high as 70, you can be certain your CPU is capable of 70fps and it's your video card that's limiting you. So, you can do one of two things:

1) Turn down graphical settings, or

2) Buy a faster card

My opinion, the RX 480 on sale, or 470, or 1060 3GB have the best value right now. A 1050 would still be a nice improvement over what you have though and is a lot cheaper. nVidia's drivers are generally lighter on the CPU and so may be a better choice for someone who doesn't have a very high-end chip.

 

[ukLz]

@Ecky

I get it.. Damn.

However, I just found the video about benchmark from my last reply above: https://youtu.be/0J57bBrDDLc