[SOLVED] i5 4460 or G4560 for CS GO

[Fishhhh]

What system would be better to go for.

An i5 4460 with an Gtx 1050 either 2gb or 4gb.

Or

Keep my G4560 and my gtx 1060 6gb

I only play Cs go or games older. I want to try and get 200+ fps on high video settings

Any other kind of budget systems which anyone could recommend like maybe a amd ryzen 5??

Thanks in advance

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

i5 4460

 

[Phazoner]

Why would you lose a 1060 you actually have to get a 1050? To get that many FPS you definitely want the i5 over the Pentium. But I don't know if the 1050 can deliver that much FPS. I tried a bit CSGO in my 240Hz monitor with a 1070 and an i7 6700k and even in High I wasn't able to mantain 240FPS. I just set all to medium and forgot about watching what settings were better as I just wanted to feel the 240Hz in a game.

 

[Fishhhh]

Why would you lose a 1060 you actually have to get a 1050? To get that many FPS you definitely want the i5 over the Pentium. But I don't know if the 1050 can deliver that much FPS. I tried a bit CSGO in my 240Hz monitor with a 1070 and an i7 6700k and even in High I wasn't able to mantain 240FPS. I just set all to medium and forgot about watching what settings were better as I just wanted to feel the 240Hz in a game.

So ideally an i5 with the 1060 then

 

[Karadjgne]

Cs:go is a low thread, high clock speed dependent game. It'll only use 2-3 threads. That hurts on those dual core Pentium unless you got lucky with a good OC. Windows itself taking up space on the cores. The i5 has plenty of room so it's not hampered or backlogged by prioritized data.

I7-3770K @4.6GHz with a gtx970 gets me a solid 300fps in cs:go at ultra details, so I'm not sure why a newer i7-6700k and gtx1070 is stuck lower than 240fps at High details. Fps limits are set by the cpu, gpu has to live upto them. In nvidia control panel, global settings try turning pre-rendered frames from default 3 to 1.

 

[Fishhhh]

Cs:go is a low thread, high clock speed dependent game. It'll only use 2-3 threads. That hurts on those dual core Pentium unless you got lucky with a good OC. Windows itself taking up space on the cores. The i5 has plenty of room so it's not hampered or backlogged by prioritized data.

I7-3770K @4.6GHz with a gtx970 gets me a solid 300fps in cs:go at ultra details, so I'm not sure why a newer i7-6700k and gtx1070 is stuck lower than 240fps at High details. Fps limits are set by the cpu, gpu has to live upto them. In nvidia control panel, global settings try turning pre-rendered frames from default 3 to 1.

So would you recommend an older i7 with my 1060 6gb??

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

So would you recommend an older i7 with my 1060 6gb??

Yes.

 

[Karadjgne]

You already have a G4560. That's lga1151v1, as in skylake/kabylake. Seriously I'd not be looking at older i7's as you already have ddr4 and an lga1151 motherboard. No sense replacing all that for an i5 4460. You'd be far better off with a used i7 6700/k or i7 7700/k, whichever you can grab for cheap. Just make sure you have the latest bios installed before cpu swap.

 

[Fishhhh]

Yes.

Thank you. What motherboard would you recommend to use with a 3rd gen i7?

 

[Dark Lord of Tech]

You already have a G4560. That's lga1151v1, as in skylake/kabylake. Seriously I'd not be looking at older i7's as you already have ddr4 and an lga1151 motherboard. No sense replacing all that for an i5 4460. You'd be far better off with a used i7 6700/k or i7 7700/k, whichever you can grab for cheap. Just make sure you have the latest bios installed before cpu swap.

I would go this route like stated above ^

 

[Fishhhh]

You already have a G4560. That's lga1151v1, as in skylake/kabylake. Seriously I'd not be looking at older i7's as you already have ddr4 and an lga1151 motherboard. No sense replacing all that for an i5 4460. You'd be far better off with a used i7 6700/k or i7 7700/k, whichever you can grab for cheap. Just make sure you have the latest bios installed before cpu swap.

I would go this route like stated above ^

My motherboard is the following

asrock h110m-g/m.2

Would this support an i7 6700?? Can I ask, what difference is the k at the end

Thanks

 

[Karadjgne]

Yes. That motherboard supports 6th and 7th generation Intel, which is skylake and kabylake, i7 6700/k and i7 7700/k.

There's no real difference with a standard cpu and a K series cpu other than the K series has an unlocked bios that when combined with a Z series motherboard allows overclocking.

Since you have a H110 series mobo, not a Z170/Z270 series motherboard, you can't OC anyways, motherboard won't allow it. So you'd get roughly the same performance from any one of the 4 cpus, K or non-K, making whichever one is cheapest the best value.

 

[Fishhhh]

Yes. That motherboard supports 6th and 7th generation Intel, which is skylake and kabylake, i7 6700/k and i7 7700/k.

There's no real difference with a standard cpu and a K series cpu other than the K series has an unlocked bios that when combined with a Z series motherboard allows overclocking.

Since you have a H110 series mobo, not a Z170/Z270 series motherboard, you can't OC anyways, motherboard won't allow it. So you'd get roughly the same performance from any one of the 4 cpus, K or non-K, making whichever one is cheapest the best value.

Thank you very much for the info 👍

 

[Karadjgne]

Most welcome, good luck on your hunt for a good used cpu.

 

[King_V]

G4560 is a Kaby Lake (7th gen), and i5-4450 is a Haswell (4th gen) . . keep your 1060, and, given Karadjgne's comments about CSGO being happiest with fewer cores, but higher clock speeds, look into getting a Kaby Lake i3 or i5, preferably the latter, and preferably the fastest one you can get.

The 7th gen i3/i5/i7 all have a number in the 7000s, so, for example i3-7320 or i5-7600, etc.

in the Kaby Lake generation:
Pentium is 2 cores, 4 threads
i3 is 2 cores, 4 threads, but clocked at higher speeds than Pentiums
i5 is 4 cores, 4 threads

8th generation added more cores, but that would require a new motherboard, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaby_Lake#Desktop_processors