[SOLVED] i5 4460 upgrade

[JohnHesus]

Hi,about 3 years or so ago i”ve built my first budget gaming PC.The built consisted of a i5 4460,a GTX 950,8 gb of ram (not in dual-channel) and a Gigabyte GA-B85M-D2V mobo.About 1 month ago,i bought a GTX 1060 And the 8 gb of ram isn”t enough anymore,especially when i have chrome in the background and some other apps,so i was looking to buy 16 gb,but immediately stopped when i saw the prices of DDR 3 memories.I also feel like the CPU is holding the GPU back a bit So,i’m not willing to put more money into this build.
Now,for a new build (1080p gaming),I was thinking of getting a R5 1600 ,paired with 2x8gb sticks of Corsair Vengeance memory at 2400mhz and a ASRock Fatality AB350 k4 Gaming but i’m not sure if there will be a noticeable difference,so i need some advice.Thanks

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Yes, there will be a difference for sure. R1600 is a good CPU, and is very capable. However, a Ryzen 2600 would be a better buy (nearly the same price) and has higher base/boost clocks.

Something like this based on what you've suggested:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($113.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $328.76
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 10:47 EDT-0400

Or for nearly the same price, but with newer CPU/Mobo, then this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($88.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($94.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $348.44
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 10:48 EDT-0400

Either setup along with the GTX1060 will give solid 1080p performance.

 

[JohnHesus]

I live in EU,so where i live,the prices are higher with about 40-45 $,so that sucks.But,if there is a bit of a boost between them,maybe i’ll just go with the 2600.Also,OC is out of the question because of my 500w Sirtec PSU.I’m on a tighter budget so i don’t really know what to do.Also,i m thinking of waiting for the new zen2

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

I live in EU,so where i live,the prices are higher with about 40-45 $,so that sucks.But,if there is a bit of a boost between them,maybe i’ll just go with the 2600.Also,OC is out of the question because of my 500w Sirtec PSU.I’m on a tighter budget so i don’t really know what to do.Also,i m thinking of waiting for the new zen2

I would strongly suggest getting a new PSU. DO NOT put new hardware with that PSU. The PSU is poor quality, and could certainly kill some of your nice shiny new hardware.

Here are the prices in euro's:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor (€139.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME B350-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard (€79.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€102.89 @ Alternate)
Total: €321.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 18:47 CEST+0200

Had to amend this one with an ASUS mobo. Don't worry, I have that mobo, and it's superb.

For the newer build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor (€156.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard (€79.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€102.89 @ Alternate)
Total: €339.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 18:47 CEST+0200

For a PSU to power that system, and without problems, I would be looking at a quality 550-650w PSU (650w allows some headroom for OC'ing or more power hungry hardware.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€79.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €79.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-17 18:49 CEST+0200

 

[JohnHesus]

Ok,got you.Well i think i'm gonna stick with the 1600 or the x version,which is around the same price.I also found 2 other PSUs at around the same price, a Seasonic M12II-620 EVO Edition and a Thermaltake Smart SE SPS-0630M 80+gold.What do you think about the Thermaltake PSU?

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

If the 1600x is the same price, get that. Higher base/boost clocks, is binned for better performance too. I've my 1600x running at 3.9ghz all core and it runs like a beast. Even at stock it's boost on 2 cores is 4.0ghz. Great CPU.

Hmmm. I can't find any appropriate reviews of the Thermaltlake Smart SE. Only it's little brother the 530w. It's a decent PSU from what I can see, but nothing fantastic. Maybe @Dark Lord of Tech (resident PSU expert) could help on that one. Out of the two and knowing the Seasonic is a very good PSU for the price, i'd say go for that.

 

[JohnHesus]

Ok,i”ve got the idea.I will wait a couple of months to save some more cash,and i’ll build it.Thanks for the advice and your time

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Ok,i”ve got the idea.I will wait a couple of months to save some more cash,and i’ll build it.Thanks for the advice and your time

No problem, you are welcome

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[gunnycr7]

If you want to play games with higher FPS, or the full power of gtx1060, I suggest core i5 9400F. It also makes FPS better around 2.8.

GTX 1060 6GB with i5-9400F benchmarks at Ultra Quality settings - GPUCheck

We benchmark GTX 1060 6GB and i5-9400F at Ultra Quality settings in 61 games and in 1080p, 1440p, and 4K. With a review of specifications, price, power, temperature, and CPU bottlenecks.

www.gpucheck.com

Compare with Ryzen 5 1600 and gtx1060 will make FPS drop around 8.3

GTX 1060 6GB with Ryzen 5 1600 benchmarks at Ultra Quality settings - GPUCheck

We benchmark GTX 1060 6GB and Ryzen 5 1600 at Ultra Quality settings in 61 games and in 1080p, 1440p, and 4K. With a review of specifications, price, power, temperature, and CPU bottlenecks.

www.gpucheck.com

Ryzen 5 1600 is a little bit cheaper but it may cause a bottleneck and not quite adequate for GTX1060
(sorry for my bad englsih)

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

If you want to play games with higher FPS, or the full power of gtx1060, I suggest core i5 9400F. It also makes FPS better around 2.8.

GTX 1060 6GB with i5-9400F benchmarks at Ultra Quality settings - GPUCheck

We benchmark GTX 1060 6GB and i5-9400F at Ultra Quality settings in 61 games and in 1080p, 1440p, and 4K. With a review of specifications, price, power, temperature, and CPU bottlenecks.

www.gpucheck.com

Compare with Ryzen 5 1600 and gtx1060 will make FPS drop around 8.3

GTX 1060 6GB with Ryzen 5 1600 benchmarks at Ultra Quality settings - GPUCheck

We benchmark GTX 1060 6GB and Ryzen 5 1600 at Ultra Quality settings in 61 games and in 1080p, 1440p, and 4K. With a review of specifications, price, power, temperature, and CPU bottlenecks.

www.gpucheck.com

Ryzen 5 1600 is a little bit cheaper but it may cause a bottleneck and not quite adequate for GTX1060
(sorry for my bad englsih)

You are incorrect about a bottleneck with a 1600/x and a GTX1060 at 1080p. The difference between CPU's (R1600/x and I59400f) comes down to the better IPC of the Intel chips, this is mostly at 1080p. At 1440p the difference swings the other way, as the work shifts to the GPU, and the CPU's balance out.