I5 4670k 4.1Ghz at 1.09v - even at 800mhz idle it stays at 1.09v?

[curioususer123]

I just finished overclocking this chip and my only problem now is that when I'm idling my Core speed drops to 800mhz but my core voltage is set to manual and stays at 1.088v.

Is there any way to make it drop like it did on auto?

My motherboard is the Gigabyte Z87-HD3.

Turbo boost (disabled)
All power saving features (auto)

CPU Multiplier: 41
CPU Vcore (manual): 1.09v

Thank you!

 

[mastergup]

if you set the vcore manual to 1.09v then it stays at that.
if you whant youre vcore to drop, then set a offset voltage or with haswell adeptive voltage, but don't use that to stress test, first use fixed vcore, if its stable then dial in the same adaptive voltage.
do not stresstest on haswell with the new prime95 use intel burn test or aida.

 

[curioususer123]

if you set the vcore manual to 1.09v then it stays at that.
if you whant youre vcore to drop, then set a offset voltage or with haswell adeptive voltage, but don't use that to stress test, first use fixed vcore, if its stable then dial in the same adaptive voltage.
do not stresstest on haswell with the new prime95 use intel burn test or aida.

Thank you for the reply

Yes I've been reading around and according to these http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/221582-4670k-46ghz-at-133v-max-temp-below-75c-is-the-voltage-too-high/ http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to-overclock-intel-haswell I should do the same, they also say not to stress test. Is there any reason why? When I'm using 100% CPU load, won't I be using this voltage too?

I did use offset voltage (1.163v -0.075 to get 1.09) before but my overclock CPU Vcore on CPU-Z goes all the way up to 1.18v in stress tests, where really I only want 1.092v. On stock (auto settings) my CPU takes 1.16v, but in stress tests takes 1.17v. I recently updated the bios from F4 to F8, could updating bios increase voltages?

Also, I don't think there is any setting for adaptive voltage in Gigabyte Z87 motherboards, unless I'm mistaken but I'm confused as to why C-state Haswell features don't undervolt at idle? I tried enabling some of them like it says here http://www.overclock.net/t/1436485/gigabyte-ga-z87x-ud3h-setting-vcore-problems but I don't think it made any difference - as only the clock speed reduced.

 

[curioususer123]

Also, would it be better to change the Turbo boost clocks to 4.1Ghz and leave the multiplier on auto or manually set the CPU multiplier to 4.1Ghz and turn off turbo boost?

 

[mastergup]

if you set the vcore manual to 1.09v then it stays at that.
if you whant youre vcore to drop, then set a offset voltage or with haswell adeptive voltage, but don't use that to stress test, first use fixed vcore, if its stable then dial in the same adaptive voltage.
do not stresstest on haswell with the new prime95 use intel burn test or aida.

Thank you for the reply

Yes I've been reading around and according to these http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/221582-4670k-46ghz-at-133v-max-temp-below-75c-is-the-voltage-too-high/ http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to-overclock-intel-haswell I should do the same, they also say not to stress test. Is there any reason why? When I'm using 100% CPU load, won't I be using this voltage too?

I did use offset voltage (1.163v -0.075 to get 1.09) before but my overclock CPU Vcore on CPU-Z goes all the way up to 1.18v in stress tests, where really I only want 1.092v. On stock (auto settings) my CPU takes 1.16v, but in stress tests takes 1.17v. I recently updated the bios from F4 to F8, could updating bios increase voltages?

Also, I don't think there is any setting for adaptive voltage in Gigabyte Z87 motherboards, unless I'm mistaken but I'm confused as to why C-state Haswell features don't undervolt at idle? I tried enabling some of them like it says here http://www.overclock.net/t/1436485/gigabyte-ga-z87x-ud3h-setting-vcore-problems but I don't think it made any difference - as only the clock speed reduced.

Maby it wont undervolt because in windows your powerplan is at high performance.
normally it undervolts with now problem
stresstest is no problem also just don't do it with offset vcore ore adaptive vcore and do not use prime.
you don't have to stress test 4 hours, I ussely do 10 runs intel burn test at high/very high, after that I do a couple of benchmarks, like cinebence, blackhole, and I find a very good program real benche 2.2 its great, do it in a loop of 3, and then a couple of benchmarks like firestrike, 3d 11, I always do it like this and had never any problems after that.

 

[curioususer123]

if you set the vcore manual to 1.09v then it stays at that.
if you whant youre vcore to drop, then set a offset voltage or with haswell adeptive voltage, but don't use that to stress test, first use fixed vcore, if its stable then dial in the same adaptive voltage.
do not stresstest on haswell with the new prime95 use intel burn test or aida.

Thank you for the reply

Yes I've been reading around and according to these http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/221582-4670k-46ghz-at-133v-max-temp-below-75c-is-the-voltage-too-high/ http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to-overclock-intel-haswell I should do the same, they also say not to stress test. Is there any reason why? When I'm using 100% CPU load, won't I be using this voltage too?

I did use offset voltage (1.163v -0.075 to get 1.09) before but my overclock CPU Vcore on CPU-Z goes all the way up to 1.18v in stress tests, where really I only want 1.092v. On stock (auto settings) my CPU takes 1.16v, but in stress tests takes 1.17v. I recently updated the bios from F4 to F8, could updating bios increase voltages?

Also, I don't think there is any setting for adaptive voltage in Gigabyte Z87 motherboards, unless I'm mistaken but I'm confused as to why C-state Haswell features don't undervolt at idle? I tried enabling some of them like it says here http://www.overclock.net/t/1436485/gigabyte-ga-z87x-ud3h-setting-vcore-problems but I don't think it made any difference - as only the clock speed reduced.

Maby it wont undervolt because in windows your powerplan is at high performance.
normally it undervolts with now problem
stresstest is no problem also just don't do it with offset vcore ore adaptive vcore and do not use prime.
you don't have to stress test 4 hours, I ussely do 10 runs intel burn test at high/very high, after that I do a couple of benchmarks, like cinebence, blackhole, and I find a very good program real benche 2.2 its great, do it in a loop of 3, and then a couple of benchmarks like firestrike, 3d 11, I always do it like this and had never any problems after that.

I'm currently set to 'Balanced'. Unfortunately... I'm wondering why it isn't working.

 

[mastergup]

if you set the vcore manual to 1.09v then it stays at that.
if you whant youre vcore to drop, then set a offset voltage or with haswell adeptive voltage, but don't use that to stress test, first use fixed vcore, if its stable then dial in the same adaptive voltage.
do not stresstest on haswell with the new prime95 use intel burn test or aida.

Thank you for the reply

Yes I've been reading around and according to these http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/221582-4670k-46ghz-at-133v-max-temp-below-75c-is-the-voltage-too-high/ http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to-overclock-intel-haswell I should do the same, they also say not to stress test. Is there any reason why? When I'm using 100% CPU load, won't I be using this voltage too?

I did use offset voltage (1.163v -0.075 to get 1.09) before but my overclock CPU Vcore on CPU-Z goes all the way up to 1.18v in stress tests, where really I only want 1.092v. On stock (auto settings) my CPU takes 1.16v, but in stress tests takes 1.17v. I recently updated the bios from F4 to F8, could updating bios increase voltages?

Also, I don't think there is any setting for adaptive voltage in Gigabyte Z87 motherboards, unless I'm mistaken but I'm confused as to why C-state Haswell features don't undervolt at idle? I tried enabling some of them like it says here http://www.overclock.net/t/1436485/gigabyte-ga-z87x-ud3h-setting-vcore-problems but I don't think it made any difference - as only the clock speed reduced.

Maby it wont undervolt because in windows your powerplan is at high performance.
normally it undervolts with now problem
stresstest is no problem also just don't do it with offset vcore ore adaptive vcore and do not use prime.
you don't have to stress test 4 hours, I ussely do 10 runs intel burn test at high/very high, after that I do a couple of benchmarks, like cinebence, blackhole, and I find a very good program real benche 2.2 its great, do it in a loop of 3, and then a couple of benchmarks like firestrike, 3d 11, I always do it like this and had never any problems after that.

I'm currently set to 'Balanced'. Unfortunately... I'm wondering why it isn't working.

cie, spread spectrum and c-states that is enabled? just make sure that all the power options are enabled

 

[curioususer123]

if you set the vcore manual to 1.09v then it stays at that.
if you whant youre vcore to drop, then set a offset voltage or with haswell adeptive voltage, but don't use that to stress test, first use fixed vcore, if its stable then dial in the same adaptive voltage.
do not stresstest on haswell with the new prime95 use intel burn test or aida.

Thank you for the reply

Yes I've been reading around and according to these http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/221582-4670k-46ghz-at-133v-max-temp-below-75c-is-the-voltage-too-high/ http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to-overclock-intel-haswell I should do the same, they also say not to stress test. Is there any reason why? When I'm using 100% CPU load, won't I be using this voltage too?

I did use offset voltage (1.163v -0.075 to get 1.09) before but my overclock CPU Vcore on CPU-Z goes all the way up to 1.18v in stress tests, where really I only want 1.092v. On stock (auto settings) my CPU takes 1.16v, but in stress tests takes 1.17v. I recently updated the bios from F4 to F8, could updating bios increase voltages?

Also, I don't think there is any setting for adaptive voltage in Gigabyte Z87 motherboards, unless I'm mistaken but I'm confused as to why C-state Haswell features don't undervolt at idle? I tried enabling some of them like it says here http://www.overclock.net/t/1436485/gigabyte-ga-z87x-ud3h-setting-vcore-problems but I don't think it made any difference - as only the clock speed reduced.

Maby it wont undervolt because in windows your powerplan is at high performance.
normally it undervolts with now problem
stresstest is no problem also just don't do it with offset vcore ore adaptive vcore and do not use prime.
you don't have to stress test 4 hours, I ussely do 10 runs intel burn test at high/very high, after that I do a couple of benchmarks, like cinebence, blackhole, and I find a very good program real benche 2.2 its great, do it in a loop of 3, and then a couple of benchmarks like firestrike, 3d 11, I always do it like this and had never any problems after that.

I'm currently set to 'Balanced'. Unfortunately... I'm wondering why it isn't working.

cie, spread spectrum and c-states that is enabled? just make sure that all the power options are enabled

Hi, I think I may have been wrong all along. I've boosted turbo to 4.1Ghz on all cores at 1.095v. It was 3.8-3.5Ghz at 1.17v before.

I think I may have been wrong with the CPU voltage, it's different on different applications. I have C-states on auto and was confused why it wasn't working before, but now that I look at it more closely - it looks like it might have been. The 'CPU VCORE' on HWMonitor drops to idle voltage but the CPU VID stays the same. I think CPU-Z may be displaying the CPU VID named as 'Core Voltage'. Aida Extreme's CPUID also shows 'Core Voltage' dropping when idle.

I think it may be working, but can you confirm whether having CPU VID at maximum is any way dangerous and what is the difference between it and CPU Vcore?

Thanks!

 

[mastergup]

if you set the vcore manual to 1.09v then it stays at that.
if you whant youre vcore to drop, then set a offset voltage or with haswell adeptive voltage, but don't use that to stress test, first use fixed vcore, if its stable then dial in the same adaptive voltage.
do not stresstest on haswell with the new prime95 use intel burn test or aida.

Thank you for the reply

Yes I've been reading around and according to these http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/221582-4670k-46ghz-at-133v-max-temp-below-75c-is-the-voltage-too-high/ http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to-overclock-intel-haswell I should do the same, they also say not to stress test. Is there any reason why? When I'm using 100% CPU load, won't I be using this voltage too?

I did use offset voltage (1.163v -0.075 to get 1.09) before but my overclock CPU Vcore on CPU-Z goes all the way up to 1.18v in stress tests, where really I only want 1.092v. On stock (auto settings) my CPU takes 1.16v, but in stress tests takes 1.17v. I recently updated the bios from F4 to F8, could updating bios increase voltages?

Also, I don't think there is any setting for adaptive voltage in Gigabyte Z87 motherboards, unless I'm mistaken but I'm confused as to why C-state Haswell features don't undervolt at idle? I tried enabling some of them like it says here http://www.overclock.net/t/1436485/gigabyte-ga-z87x-ud3h-setting-vcore-problems but I don't think it made any difference - as only the clock speed reduced.

Maby it wont undervolt because in windows your powerplan is at high performance.
normally it undervolts with now problem
stresstest is no problem also just don't do it with offset vcore ore adaptive vcore and do not use prime.
you don't have to stress test 4 hours, I ussely do 10 runs intel burn test at high/very high, after that I do a couple of benchmarks, like cinebence, blackhole, and I find a very good program real benche 2.2 its great, do it in a loop of 3, and then a couple of benchmarks like firestrike, 3d 11, I always do it like this and had never any problems after that.

I'm currently set to 'Balanced'. Unfortunately... I'm wondering why it isn't working.

cie, spread spectrum and c-states that is enabled? just make sure that all the power options are enabled

Hi, I think I may have been wrong all along. I've boosted turbo to 4.1Ghz on all cores at 1.095v. It was 3.8-3.5Ghz at 1.17v before.

I think I may have been wrong with the CPU voltage, it's different on different applications. I have C-states on auto and was confused why it wasn't working before, but now that I look at it more closely - it looks like it might have been. The 'CPU VCORE' on HWMonitor drops to idle voltage but the CPU VID stays the same. I think CPU-Z may be displaying the CPU VID named as 'Core Voltage'. Aida Extreme's CPUID also shows 'Core Voltage' dropping when idle.

I think it may be working, but can you confirm whether having CPU VID at maximum is any way dangerous and what is the difference between it and CPU Vcore?

Thanks!

its still save, but if you have a recent cpu-z it will read out the correct voltage.
don't look at the vid, in hwmonitor look at the voltage also there, its a little more down.
and set c-states from auto, to enable, and DO NOT TEST with vcore on adeptive, or offset, it will give more voltage then set.
but if you can cool it, its no problem to set the vcore to 1.2v manual and leave it at that, but then I think you can go higher then 4.1ghz, 4.1ghz is not a big difference compared to stock, try higher.

 

[curioususer123]

if you set the vcore manual to 1.09v then it stays at that.
if you whant youre vcore to drop, then set a offset voltage or with haswell adeptive voltage, but don't use that to stress test, first use fixed vcore, if its stable then dial in the same adaptive voltage.
do not stresstest on haswell with the new prime95 use intel burn test or aida.

Thank you for the reply

Yes I've been reading around and according to these http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/221582-4670k-46ghz-at-133v-max-temp-below-75c-is-the-voltage-too-high/ http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to-overclock-intel-haswell I should do the same, they also say not to stress test. Is there any reason why? When I'm using 100% CPU load, won't I be using this voltage too?

I did use offset voltage (1.163v -0.075 to get 1.09) before but my overclock CPU Vcore on CPU-Z goes all the way up to 1.18v in stress tests, where really I only want 1.092v. On stock (auto settings) my CPU takes 1.16v, but in stress tests takes 1.17v. I recently updated the bios from F4 to F8, could updating bios increase voltages?

Also, I don't think there is any setting for adaptive voltage in Gigabyte Z87 motherboards, unless I'm mistaken but I'm confused as to why C-state Haswell features don't undervolt at idle? I tried enabling some of them like it says here http://www.overclock.net/t/1436485/gigabyte-ga-z87x-ud3h-setting-vcore-problems but I don't think it made any difference - as only the clock speed reduced.

Maby it wont undervolt because in windows your powerplan is at high performance.
normally it undervolts with now problem
stresstest is no problem also just don't do it with offset vcore ore adaptive vcore and do not use prime.
you don't have to stress test 4 hours, I ussely do 10 runs intel burn test at high/very high, after that I do a couple of benchmarks, like cinebence, blackhole, and I find a very good program real benche 2.2 its great, do it in a loop of 3, and then a couple of benchmarks like firestrike, 3d 11, I always do it like this and had never any problems after that.

I'm currently set to 'Balanced'. Unfortunately... I'm wondering why it isn't working.

cie, spread spectrum and c-states that is enabled? just make sure that all the power options are enabled

Hi, I think I may have been wrong all along. I've boosted turbo to 4.1Ghz on all cores at 1.095v. It was 3.8-3.5Ghz at 1.17v before.

I think I may have been wrong with the CPU voltage, it's different on different applications. I have C-states on auto and was confused why it wasn't working before, but now that I look at it more closely - it looks like it might have been. The 'CPU VCORE' on HWMonitor drops to idle voltage but the CPU VID stays the same. I think CPU-Z may be displaying the CPU VID named as 'Core Voltage'. Aida Extreme's CPUID also shows 'Core Voltage' dropping when idle.

I think it may be working, but can you confirm whether having CPU VID at maximum is any way dangerous and what is the difference between it and CPU Vcore?

Thanks!

its still save, but if you have a recent cpu-z it will read out the correct voltage.
don't look at the vid, in hwmonitor look at the voltage also there, its a little more down.
and set c-states from auto, to enable, and DO NOT TEST with vcore on adeptive, or offset, it will give more voltage then set.
but if you can cool it, its no problem to set the vcore to 1.2v manual and leave it at that, but then I think you can go higher then 4.1ghz, 4.1ghz is not a big difference compared to stock, try higher.

Yes. I've just tested and I can do 4.4Ghz at 1.2v stable. But the temperatures are a little high, so I think I'll stick to 4.2Ghz.

So the VID can stay constant? I'm on manual mode and the 'Core Voltage' is dropping in HW Monitor (it's under motherboard settings)

 

[mastergup]

if you set the vcore manual to 1.09v then it stays at that.
if you whant youre vcore to drop, then set a offset voltage or with haswell adeptive voltage, but don't use that to stress test, first use fixed vcore, if its stable then dial in the same adaptive voltage.
do not stresstest on haswell with the new prime95 use intel burn test or aida.

Thank you for the reply

Yes I've been reading around and according to these http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/221582-4670k-46ghz-at-133v-max-temp-below-75c-is-the-voltage-too-high/ http://www.overclockers.com/3step-guide-to-overclock-intel-haswell I should do the same, they also say not to stress test. Is there any reason why? When I'm using 100% CPU load, won't I be using this voltage too?

I did use offset voltage (1.163v -0.075 to get 1.09) before but my overclock CPU Vcore on CPU-Z goes all the way up to 1.18v in stress tests, where really I only want 1.092v. On stock (auto settings) my CPU takes 1.16v, but in stress tests takes 1.17v. I recently updated the bios from F4 to F8, could updating bios increase voltages?

Also, I don't think there is any setting for adaptive voltage in Gigabyte Z87 motherboards, unless I'm mistaken but I'm confused as to why C-state Haswell features don't undervolt at idle? I tried enabling some of them like it says here http://www.overclock.net/t/1436485/gigabyte-ga-z87x-ud3h-setting-vcore-problems but I don't think it made any difference - as only the clock speed reduced.

Maby it wont undervolt because in windows your powerplan is at high performance.
normally it undervolts with now problem
stresstest is no problem also just don't do it with offset vcore ore adaptive vcore and do not use prime.
you don't have to stress test 4 hours, I ussely do 10 runs intel burn test at high/very high, after that I do a couple of benchmarks, like cinebence, blackhole, and I find a very good program real benche 2.2 its great, do it in a loop of 3, and then a couple of benchmarks like firestrike, 3d 11, I always do it like this and had never any problems after that.

I'm currently set to 'Balanced'. Unfortunately... I'm wondering why it isn't working.

cie, spread spectrum and c-states that is enabled? just make sure that all the power options are enabled

Hi, I think I may have been wrong all along. I've boosted turbo to 4.1Ghz on all cores at 1.095v. It was 3.8-3.5Ghz at 1.17v before.

I think I may have been wrong with the CPU voltage, it's different on different applications. I have C-states on auto and was confused why it wasn't working before, but now that I look at it more closely - it looks like it might have been. The 'CPU VCORE' on HWMonitor drops to idle voltage but the CPU VID stays the same. I think CPU-Z may be displaying the CPU VID named as 'Core Voltage'. Aida Extreme's CPUID also shows 'Core Voltage' dropping when idle.

I think it may be working, but can you confirm whether having CPU VID at maximum is any way dangerous and what is the difference between it and CPU Vcore?

Thanks!

its still save, but if you have a recent cpu-z it will read out the correct voltage.
don't look at the vid, in hwmonitor look at the voltage also there, its a little more down.
and set c-states from auto, to enable, and DO NOT TEST with vcore on adeptive, or offset, it will give more voltage then set.
but if you can cool it, its no problem to set the vcore to 1.2v manual and leave it at that, but then I think you can go higher then 4.1ghz, 4.1ghz is not a big difference compared to stock, try higher.

Yes. I've just tested and I can do 4.4Ghz at 1.2v stable. But the temperatures are a little high, so I think I'll stick to 4.2Ghz.

So the VID can stay constant? I'm on manual mode and the 'Core Voltage' is dropping in HW Monitor (it's under motherboard settings)

Sorry mistake, I used a different program, hwinfo, no in hwmonitor that is the correct 1, but it has to be the same as cpu-z?
What are your temps for 4.4ghz and with what program did you test?

 

[curioususer123]

Thanks

I got low 70s at 4.4Ghz using AIDA Extreme Stability.

I had to up my voltage for 4.1Ghz to 1.10v from 1.09v after a BSOD in 4 hours. I think it's all fine now!

 

[mastergup]

low 70,s is no problem at all, I had a very good i5 4670k a engenring sample, very good clocker, and 1005 stable at 1.2v at 4.6 ghz, 5.0ghz at 1.3v
only problem was the heat of that cpu, 1.2v temps in intel burn test was 83 degrees Celsius.
so low 70,s Is a very good temp.