i5 6500 or 4690k for gaming, editing, rendering?

[Mike3k24]

As the title says, I'd like to know, should I get an i5 6500 or an i5 4690k? I know that you can overclock the 4690k but I think I will only overclock it if I need to. Whichever I get will be paired with the new AMD RX 480 when it drops. Which will be better for CSGO, CoD, LoL, Overwatch, Minecraft? I will be recording and editing then posting videos to YouTube. Which CPU will be better for recording at a high fps and help speed up the editing and rendering process? Also my budget is $500-550 (excluding the gpu, buying that separate). Thanks in advance for the help.

Update 1
This is the build I am probably going to go with (it includes everything together including the gpu). I already have a 120gb SSD with Win 10.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($57.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black/Blue) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN725N USB 2.0 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter ($7.98 @ Amazon)
Other: And RX 480 ($199.00)
Total: $715.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-22 21:52 EDT-0400

 

[Bakua]

Get the 4690k, you'll notice more performance and it has better single-core performance (and using more cores), plus more room for OC'ing.

 

[Mike3k24]

Get the 4690k, you'll notice more performance and it has better single-core performance (and using more cores), plus more room for OC'ing.

I'm curious, how does it have better single core performance? I'm new to PC parts so I'm sorry for stupid questions

 

[synphul]

Your budget is $500-550 for the entire pc or? What components does that include for that budget? The 4690k would be a bit faster if you overclock it but otherwise they're both i5's, both have 4 cores. One doesn't have more cores than the other.

 

[Bakua]

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6500-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4690K/3513vs2432

This should tell you everything you need to know, pretty much the only thing the 6500 has over the 4690k is the iGPU and newer manufacturing.

 

[synphul]

That comparison site isn't very accurate. It doesn't take into account ipc difference between generation, it blindly looks at face value of the clock speed, sees one is higher so must be faster. It rates right around the same level of accuracy as cpuboss.

If considering something from the 4th gen line I'd suggest the xeon 1231v3 for the things you're looking to do paired with an h97 board unless you want to sli gpu's at some point, then a z series board may make more sense.

 

[Mike3k24]

Your budget is $500-550 for the entire pc or? What components does that include for that budget? The 4690k would be a bit faster if you overclock it but otherwise they're both i5's, both have 4 cores. One doesn't have more cores than the other.

500-550 for the PC. I already have an SSD, and peripherals. And I'm buying the RX 480 like I said earlier.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

DDR4 memory should benefit you for editing and rendering. I'd suggest a modern platform.

 

[Mike3k24]

DDR4 memory should benefit you for editing and rendering. I'd suggest a modern platform.

Yeah that's what I intiatially had planned.

 

[synphul]

I don't think the ddr4 would be as beneficial as hyper threading. Not when it comes to video encoding/editing and games like overwatch. Something like this would be a solid starting point I think. Not sure if you need windows or not. An ssd would be good for the main system drive, if you don't want/need the additional drive for storage it could be left off the list. Case choice is personal, just an example of a budget case large enough to hold the rx 480.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($35.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H25 ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $501.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-22 21:55 EDT-0400

 

[Mike3k24]

I don't think the ddr4 would be as beneficial as hyper threading. Not when it comes to video encoding/editing and games like overwatch. Something like this would be a solid starting point I think. Not sure if you need windows or not. An ssd would be good for the main system drive, if you don't want/need the additional drive for storage it could be left off the list. Case choice is personal, just an example of a budget case large enough to hold the rx 480.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($35.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H25 ATX Mid Tower Case ($38.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $501.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-22 21:55 EDT-0400

That's a nice build but 1. How will it do with gaming and recording at a high fps? 2. I heard that power supply is not very good. But I'm not really sure

 

[synphul]

Here's a benchmark for overwatch. The 1231v3 is roughly equivalent to a 4770k, it just lacks the integrated graphics. Compared to the 4690k which is on par or a hair faster than the 6500. Since you're going with a locked cpu the xeon would be just as fast with the addition of ht which would actually help with the things you're looking to do.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1180-overwatch-benchmarks/page5.html

Your choice though.

 

[synphul]

It's roughly the same speed (100mhz slower than the 4690k at stock) as either i5. With the addition of hyper threading, so it will game as well in games that don't use ht, it will game better in games that do use it (which overwatch does). It will render faster than either i5 unless you get the 4690k or i5 6600k and pair it with a z series board, a solid cooler and overclock it pretty high. Then the i5 will match it in rendering. The 4690k at stock and the 6500 won't match it in rendering speed.

Those parts weren't taking into consideration that you already had parts picked out, if you have the budget for the other case, psu etc then go for it. They're good quality as well. The capstone series was pretty solid, not a bad psu. Not sure where you heard that. I believe it was based on one of superflower's platforms. I'd probably opt for the evga g2 if it's within your budget though.

 

[Mike3k24]

Here's a benchmark for overwatch. The 1231v3 is roughly equivalent to a 4770k, it just lacks the integrated graphics. Compared to the 4690k which is on par or a hair faster than the 6500. Since you're going with a locked cpu the xeon would be just as fast with the addition of ht which would actually help with the things you're looking to do.

http://www.techspot.com/review/1180-overwatch-benchmarks/page5.html

Your choice though.

Oh wow! I never knew the Xeon was pretty close to the 4770k. That's cool, so yeah I'll take your build into consideration and prOb switch out some parts.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Yeah the Haswell Xeon is a great deal. Unfortunately Skylake Xeons are more expensive and are tied to the C232 and C236 chipsets now, making them more money.

 

[Mike3k24]

Yeah the Haswell Xeon is a great deal. Unfortunately Skylake Xeons are more expensive and are tied to the C232 and C236 chipsets now, making them more money.

Oh wow that's interesting.

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Yeah Intel doesn't like consumers purchasing better-deal workstation chips for gaming. Even though it's a totally viable option. Though in your case editing and rendering are definitely Xeon type tasks.

 

[synphul]

The xeon (at least that model, the 1231v3) was kind of an in between. It had clock speeds similar to an i5 4690/i7 4770 (k and non k were the same speed stock). It had the hyper threading that an i5 didn't, but it lacked the igpu that the i7 had. So sort of an i5 with hyper threading or an i7 without the integrated graphics - meaning you will absolutely need a gpu to run the system at all. The price fell somewhere between the i5 and i7.

 

[Mike3k24]

Yeah Intel doesn't like consumers purchasing better-deal workstation chips for gaming. Even though it's a totally viable option. Though in your case editing and rendering are definitely Xeon type tasks.

Out of curiosity, how well would the 4690k or 6500 do with editing and rendering?

 

[Mike3k24]

synphul Good thing I'm getting the 480

 

[turkey3_scratch]

Yeah Intel doesn't like consumers purchasing better-deal workstation chips for gaming. Even though it's a totally viable option. Though in your case editing and rendering are definitely Xeon type tasks.

Out of curiosity, how well would the 4690k or 6500 do with editing and rendering?

Well, with rendering and editing, it's all just how much time everything takes. Rendering will of course take less time, but will you be dead by the time it's done? No. But rendering is clearly a task where the 1231 V3 Xeon will benefit over the Skylake CPUs.

 

[Mike3k24]

Yeah Intel doesn't like consumers purchasing better-deal workstation chips for gaming. Even though it's a totally viable option. Though in your case editing and rendering are definitely Xeon type tasks.

Out of curiosity, how well would the 4690k or 6500 do with editing and rendering?

Well, with rendering and editing, it's all just how much time everything takes. Rendering will of course take less time, but will you be dead by the time it's done? No. But rendering is clearly a task where the 1231 V3 Xeon will benefit over the Skylake CPUs.

Yeah that makes sense I'm definitely going Xeon!